Pre-SysNES2: Beta-testing and Submission
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Fixed, also your stats are now reduced.
Yes, but I did explicitly add terraforming options for that sort of thing. Melting your ice caps doesn't fit with your given background at all though.
Yes, though resources can be placed on the open market for anyone to buy. Running into resource deficits is bad news. You can borrow e from banking powers or your own citizens.
Obviously the heat notations for SAH2 I are missing
Yes.
You know some examples would be helpful.
Its meant to be expensive, but give you a bonus if you happen to have an excess of a certain resource, just like gas vents, its not for effing everyone.
I don't know about 2007, it is certainly much faster than pre-2007 versions. Microsoft blogs indicate it does some calculations a lot faster :|.
Yes, but I did explicitly add terraforming options for that sort of thing. Melting your ice caps doesn't fit with your given background at all though.
Yes, though resources can be placed on the open market for anyone to buy. Running into resource deficits is bad news. You can borrow e from banking powers or your own citizens.
Obviously the heat notations for SAH2 I are missing
Yes.
You know some examples would be helpful.
Its meant to be expensive, but give you a bonus if you happen to have an excess of a certain resource, just like gas vents, its not for effing everyone.
I don't know about 2007, it is certainly much faster than pre-2007 versions. Microsoft blogs indicate it does some calculations a lot faster :|.
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Stuff changes, don't make me roll out dealwithit.gif
I just compiled a leaderboard of resources and stuff. Thanks dis, for teaching me to use Indirect and Address functions....AGAIN (I still like the Sumproduct ones, but is there a way to get it to multiply one array against several other arrays and sum the results of each multiplication? other than c+p)
Spoiler :
Thlayli
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Are boreholes and aerostats T3+? Or are they just upgrades to mining complexes and pumping stations that anyone can build?
Is Crezth officially in for the Quasi? I know he has expressed interest.
Is Crezth officially in for the Quasi? I know he has expressed interest.
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Yes they are higher techs than that, the players have a number of things they can't replicate indigenously.
We'll see on the Quasi if TB is still in or not.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
It looks like m/v constraints will be much more of a hard block to expansion than e/s constraints will, for certain.
How much extra efficiency does a relevant specialist squeeze out of a mine or a pumping station? Are there any other ways to optimize resource production besides just building resource buildings in good places?
How will the NPC market for m/v be handled? Will there be a list of NPC's and offers updated regularly, or will it be up to the player to contact trading partners and negotiate deals?
How much extra efficiency does a relevant specialist squeeze out of a mine or a pumping station? Are there any other ways to optimize resource production besides just building resource buildings in good places?
How will the NPC market for m/v be handled? Will there be a list of NPC's and offers updated regularly, or will it be up to the player to contact trading partners and negotiate deals?
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Zero, none, zilch, effing nada. Someone should read the list of specialist abilities.
Get someone with inherent bonuses to do the resource extraction instead
.You can negotiate deals, but there will also be an open market where resources will be put up for anyone connected to buy at a set price. Players can do this to.
Zero, none, zilch, effing nada. Someone should read the list of specialist abilities.
Get someone with inherent bonuses to do the resource extraction instead
You can negotiate deals, but there will also be an open market where resources will be put up for anyone connected to buy at a set price. Players can do this to.
I hear someone needs some metals...or v, I suppose the Delugians, Hankish or Quasi would be the people to talk to. And of course the NPC's.
@Dis
Is it possible to hide your exploration finds from other people? (say I map out all of a sectors m potential, I can keep that hidden). Can I also rent out my specialists to other powers (or of course sell my findings...)?
EDIT: mmhmmm actually all current finds have a base or similar on top of them. I guess that means they are revealed at that point and hidden prior to that.
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Yes.
Yes that's what I said a bunch of times.
Also bundling the npcs on that chart is dumb.
qoou
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Definitely, the thought just came up since I haven't seen any talk of side-effects to terraforming actions.
So then how will the open market interact with the need to physically transport resources? Shipping costs included?
Obviously the heat notations for SAH2 I are missing
I meant specifically the m output. SAH2 I Space forces the m output to zero by sticking a -100 in the additional factors column. SAF9 I Space forces the m output to zero by not checking off the "Hot Jovian" box.
Edit: Sorry, SAF9, not SAH9.
Space (some have vacuum/atmosphere checked, some not): 286, 306, 309, 401, 407, 410, 411, 566, 572, 588, 592, 596, 627, 631, 642, 705, 706, 711, 714, 770,
Atmosphere (none have anything checked, except): 396
Others: 273-274, 400, 408-409, 412-414, 420-421, 509-510, 530-531, 741-742, 756-759
Have more than one atmosphere checked (domes?): 284, 381, 418, 461-464, 474, 750-751
Yup...I've been quietly despairing of ever getting a hot jovian colonised.
Thlayli
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I am interested in what religion these Cathedrals actually follow. I saw a Christian-looking symbol in the NPC chart.
Can religion play a role in NPC diplomacy similar to ideology?
Can religion play a role in NPC diplomacy similar to ideology?
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You will need to purchase it, ship e/what they want to the seller (which has a base transport cost), then ship it back to its destination (which has a second base transport cost). If you're using someone else's trade routes you have to pay whatever they charge on top of that (which I assume they will have a set rate/a flat usage fee).
Base costs are [1/5 * number of jumps] e per mvfa, and [1/50 * number of jumps] e per e. It's always rounded up, so shipping things in units of 5 and 50 is the most efficient. e is used as currency as its the easiest to move about.
Take out loans, assemble a consortium of backers, refine ground base constuction, etc. Its only a few thousand e.
Lots of religions, they're called the Cathedrals after the planet though. Yes, they're the same thing after all. All npcs are in the religion of hating you, thlayli, specifically.
Yes, so the cheapest I've managed to figure out is the few thousand for the base, build the borehole/Aerostat and bring in an overseer to ensure that it runs from the get go.
Thlayli
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The habitat calculator is behaving very erratically for me, mostly refusing to change values when I populate the fields. I haven't checked other pages that require inputs but I suspect it might be similar.
Is there any chance we could get the habitat calculator spun off as a separate file?
Is there any chance we could get the habitat calculator spun off as a separate file?
qoou
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The hab calc has a cell near the beginning, "from here", that seems to determine whether it looks at the numbers you manually plug in, or the region ID you manually plug in. That and updating takes a second or two (and scrolling or changing sheets cancels the process). I personally haven't run into any problems with the habitat calc.
Thlayli
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I know what it does, qoou. 
It might be because I'm trying to run too many spreadsheets at once. I'll try again on a different computer to see if the source is my machine.
It might be because I'm trying to run too many spreadsheets at once. I'll try again on a different computer to see if the source is my machine.
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You mean like the time when I released it as a separate file?
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