SGOTM 15 - Plastic Ducks

-Trade Feudalism next turn, switch to Vassalage
-Satsuma builds Chariots for MP
-Core cities build HAs, except Kyoto and Vijay on Treb/Mace duty
-New Mongolian cities finish spreading Hindu, Forge, CH, barrakcs then Trebuchets (Maces as needed)
-Sun Tzu (GG Axe with 28 exp) promoted to WIII, Combat 1 and Medic 1 then upgraded to Mace

Religion spreading:
How many more hindu missionaries to HC?
Before spreading more buddhism to Hammy, we might want to send a few HM his way.

I'll play 2 turns unless something goes awry on the first one...

I'll wait 30~40 minutes for comments while I eat.

EDIT: also, we did not beg money from Hatty, I might do so after trading Feudalism?
 
I don't know if the 30-40 minutes have expired, but :

- Just FYI, I just gifted a HM to HC. When the Kashi output shows us that he has spread it to at least 6 of his 11 cities, then we should be safe. Maybe one more to be sure then.
- Forge + CH + Bar is maybe a lot to build in *all* mongolian cities. It may delay their ability to contribute to the war. Maybe skip Barracks?
- After Trebs, I agree with Duckweed that even Kyoto and Vij should build HAs. Maces would take ~15 turns to reach English or Persian territory, seems way too much given our expected victory date.
 
More HMs to Hammy means more BMs to him, hence more votes.

If HC succeeds the last gifted HM, he is going to have 8 Hindu cities (plus Sat), that's should be safe, of course we need to watch him carefully.

We can focus on Mongolian cities now and then Hammy.

Remember to send all the rest 6 trebs in the next wave (swap 3 other units out), 6 non-trebs units are enough to take Can.
 
Genghis is gone, Hatty did her work.
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This is the cost to bribe MM/HC (same) and Hammy to fight Liz.
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Hatty is no longer willing to trade gold since she captured NH, Feudalism will cost 10 gold.
The price to fight Cyrus is huge at the moment. (Hammy wants both techs + 1260 gold)

Bribe AIs against Liz?

EDIT: Nottingham's borders expanded, as a result, our 2 spies can't hide anymore in their corner. Leave them there or walk around?
 
Let's trade away compass for cash and then use Optics to bribe.

let spies walk around to scout, but don't enter London 5 turns before revolting.

Edit: arrange some archers to pillage the tile around Nh, that village is good.
 
That stack should not be her major stack from London, which is likely hiding on the Corn tile.
 
Alright, I'll wait until next turn to see what happens. Hopefully that minor stack does not head for GK lands.
Coventry was reinforced (5 units now) IBT, in any case I can't take it before next turn.
 
New turn.
Shaka got bribed on Hammy... nothing much from Liz except the stack we saw is heading north!
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In the 4 southern cities, I counted:
3 Knights
7 Longbows
3 XBows
3 Maces
2 Axes
1 Sword

Very small defense.

Anyway, any odds that stack will turn if we take Warwick? We can always sacrifice a unit to gain some time...

EDIT: HC is now at 8 buddhist cities. Gift Satsuma and convert or wait 3 turns to whip last time?
On the way north:
4 catapults
1 Mace
1 XBow
1 Longbow
1 Pike
 
Hmm, the situation is getting complicated. Could you upload the save?

If we could also take Can this turn, we could cease the fire and re-declare next turn.
 
My experience of this game is much more limited than yours or Duckweed's, but I don't believe this stack will turn around if we take Warwick unless we move the main stack out after taking it.
So we could try to lure the stack this way, but in any case it would modify our war plans towards London.

So maybe it's better to try and defend Beshbalik. They only have 4 attacking units, so if we can muster 5 units, whatever they are, we're fine this turn.
But the catapults and trebs will destroy any of our units, so on second thought it's probably not a good idea to defend in Beshbalik...


Hmm, well *that* was a useless post...
 
Unless Trebuchets miss their shots badly, we should have no problem taking both cities. Save uploaded - haven't finished city MM.

Spoiler :
Turn 154, 880 AD: The borders of Calcutta have expanded!
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have trained a Spy in Old Sarai. Work has now begun on a Spy.
Turn 154, 880 AD: You have constructed a Forge in New Sarai. Work has now begun on a Courthouse.
Turn 154, 880 AD: The borders of Karakorum have expanded!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Ning-hsia (Genghigawa) has been captured by the Empire égyptien!!!
Turn 154, 880 AD: The Mongols Civilization has been destroyed!!!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Mansagawa's Golden Age has begun!!!
Turn 154, 880 AD: Henry Ford (Great Engineer) has been born in a far away land!

Turn 155, 900 AD: Pataliputra has grown to size 8.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Osaka has grown to size 10.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Agra has grown to size 5.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Kyoto has grown to size 12.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Calcutta has grown to size 4.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Satsuma has grown to size 2.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Satsuma can hurry Chariot for 1⇴ with 20ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 44 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Turfan will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lahore has grown to size 4.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Lahore can hurry Galley for 2⇴ with 17ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 43 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Samarqand has grown to size 3.
Turn 155, 900 AD: New Sarai has grown to size 4.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Karakorum can hurry Courthouse for 3⇴ with 31ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Mansagawa/Huayanagawa has no worst enemy.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Hammuragawa has no worst enemy.
Turn 155, 900 AD: has no worst enemy.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Hinduism has spread in Tiflis.
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 67%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 60%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Trebuchet 23 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 52%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Your Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 45%!
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have discovered Feudalism!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Gandhi adopts Vassalage!
Turn 155, 900 AD: Old Sarai will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have trained a Trebuchet in Vijayanagara. Work has now begun on a Trebuchet.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have trained a Trebuchet in Kyoto. Work has now begun on a Trebuchet.
Turn 155, 900 AD: You have trained a Spy in Old Sarai. Work has now begun on a Buddhist Temple.
Turn 155, 900 AD: James Watt (Great Engineer) has been born in Dur-Kurigalzu (Hammuragawa)!

Turn 156, 920 AD: Pataliputra can hurry Hindu Missionary for 1⇴ with 32ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 43 turns.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Calcutta can hurry Horse Archer for 1⇴ with 11ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 31 turns.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Turfan has been pacified.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Old Sarai has grown to size 3.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Beshbalik will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Tiflis can hurry Courthouse for 2⇴ with 10ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 15 turns.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Huayanagawa has 11 gold per turn available for trade.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Elizagawa has 7 gold per turn available for trade.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Elizagawa is willing to negotiate.
Turn 156, 920 AD: You are the worst enemy of Cyrusgawa.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Elizagawa will trade Calendar, Guilds, Paper, Theology
Turn 156, 920 AD: Will Trade Map: Elizagawa
Turn 156, 920 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Elizagawa
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 37%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 30%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 23 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 22%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 15%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 7%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 77%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 69%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 13 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 62%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 54%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 18 (Kyoto) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 46%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 15 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 39%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 16 (Pataliputra) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 31%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 17 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 23%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 1 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 16%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 11 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 8%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Your Trebuchet 12 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Warwick to 0%!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Hammuragawa has declared war on Elizagawa!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Mansagawa/Huayanagawa has declared war on Elizagawa!
Turn 156, 920 AD: Buddhism has spread in Lahore.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Varanasi will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Osaka will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Kyoto will grow to size 11 on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Calcutta will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Lahore will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 156, 920 AD: The borders of Turfan have expanded!
Turn 156, 920 AD: You have constructed a Buddhist Temple in Karakorum. Work has now begun on a Barracks.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Hinduism has spread in Borsippa.
Turn 156, 920 AD: Shakagawa has declared war on Hammuragawa!

Turn 157, 940 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Beshbalik!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Delhi can hurry Horse Archer for 1⇴ with 28ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Bombay can hurry Horse Archer for 1⇴ with 31ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 31 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Varanasi has grown to size 6.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Osaka has grown to size 9.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Osaka can hurry Buddhist Temple for 1⇴ with 24ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 43 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Kyoto has grown to size 11.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Calcutta has grown to size 5.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Calcutta can hurry Barracks for 2⇴ with 28ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 30 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Turfan can hurry Courthouse for 3⇴ with 9ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Lahore has grown to size 3.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Lahore can hurry Chariot for 1⇴ with 16ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 51 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Old Sarai can hurry Buddhist Temple for 1⇴ with 2ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 28 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Karakorum can hurry Barracks for 2⇴ with 23ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 18 turns.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Beshbalik has been pacified.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Shakagawa has 100 gold available for trade.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Shakagawa is the worst enemy of Hammuragawa.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Hinduism has spread in Turfan.
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 27 (Vijayanagara) has reduced the defenses of Canterbury to 0%!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Hinduism has spread in Beshbalik.
 
There are 9 units in Warwick + one Pike coming, we have 15 attacking units.

So we can take Warwick to remove English culture, then try to attack the mini english stack with the remaining forces, but since they're in a forest, it will be costly.

This stack is on english land right now, so if we cease fire after taking Warwick, they will be on neutral ground so they will not be sent back to their territory, so what good is it for us?
 
Worst case scenario we can gift some cities to Mansa XD
The ceasefire gives us a few turns as we don't have to DoW right away necessarily (heal for example). This might make the stack move to defend Hastings seeing as she'll have lost a good portion of her units.
 
We have 1 more turn to decide whether to cease fire.

For now, we can try to sacrifice 1 FW to 1S of that stack and hope this stack will attack our stack on the forest in the next 2 turns.

Take both cities and see what's her next move.

Regarding HC, we could produce more HMs from Osaka and Kyo to gift him. T161 is the latest, right, we also have 5 turns after that.
 
Well, that went unexpectedly well!

Warwick - 1 5exp treb lost, you can see how well he died too!
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Coventry - 1 5exp treb lost, he also died well!
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EDIT: we have access to Ivory now!
 
I've uploaded the save, I have to run for a few hours, I can play a few more turns in ~3 hours.

Spoiler :
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (5.00)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 27.2%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +100%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (5 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 17 (49/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 17 (32/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman has defeated Gandhi's Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara)!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 19 (Vijayanagara) has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 13 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (3.68)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 70.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 13 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (5 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 13 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (72/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (52/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (32/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 13 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (3.68)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 70.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (3 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (72/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (52/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 20 (32/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 9 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (4.17)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 61.5%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (4 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (75/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (56/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (37/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 14 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 18 (Kyoto) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (3.48)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 89.7%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 18 (Kyoto) has caused collateral damage! (2 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 18 (Kyoto) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 20 (62/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 20 (42/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 18 (Kyoto) has withdrawn from combat with a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 5 (Pataliputra) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (2.97)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 93.2%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 5 (Pataliputra) has caused collateral damage! (1 Unit)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 21 (49/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 21 (28/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 5 (Pataliputra) has withdrawn from combat with a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 10 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (2.25)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 10 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (1 Unit)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 23 (37/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 10 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Catapult (2.04)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) is hit for 14 (72/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 27 (73/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 27 (46/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) is hit for 14 (58/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) is hit for 14 (44/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 6 (Varanasi) has withdrawn from combat with a Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 8 (Pataliputra) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (1.60)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.9%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +100%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 8 (Pataliputra) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 8 (Pataliputra) is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 8 (Pataliputra) has withdrawn from combat with a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 15 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Pikeman (1.89)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.8%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -120%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Pikeman is hit for 25 (35/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 15 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Pikeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Superwoodsman (Maceman) (8.80) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (3.52)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.4%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +100%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 19 (6/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Superwoodsman (Maceman) has defeated Elizagawa's Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Superwoodsman has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 1 (Delhi) (5.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (1.80)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -75%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 1 (Delhi) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (4/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 1 (Delhi) has defeated Elizagawa's Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Axeman 1 (Delhi) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 5 (Vijayanagara) (5.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (2.25)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 97.5%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -45%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 5 (Vijayanagara) has defeated Elizagawa's Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Axeman 5 (Vijayanagara) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 1 (Varanasi) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (3.00)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.2%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 17 (8/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 1 (Varanasi) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 17 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 1 (Varanasi) has defeated Elizagawa's Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Crossbowman 1 (Varanasi) has destroyed a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 2 (Vijayanagara) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (2.75)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 2 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 2 (Vijayanagara) has defeated Elizagawa's Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Crossbowman 2 (Vijayanagara) has destroyed a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 2 (Delhi) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (2.77)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 97.4%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 2 (Delhi) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 2 (Delhi) has defeated Elizagawa's Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Axeman 2 (Delhi) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 3 (Delhi) (5.50) vs Elizagawa's Knight (2.75)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.2%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 3 (Delhi) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 3 (Delhi) is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 17 (8/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 17 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 3 (Delhi) has defeated Elizagawa's Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Axeman 3 (Delhi) has destroyed a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 6 (Varanasi) (4.25) vs Elizagawa's Pikeman (0.90)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -45%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Pikeman is hit for 28 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Axeman 6 (Varanasi) has defeated Elizagawa's Pikeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Axeman 6 (Varanasi) has destroyed a Pikeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 4 (Pataliputra) (6.60) vs Elizagawa's Catapult (1.25)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 28 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 4 (Pataliputra) has defeated Elizagawa's Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Pikeman 4 (Pataliputra) has destroyed a Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: You have captured a Fast Worker
Turn 157, 940 AD: You have captured Warwick!!!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (6.00)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 18.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (3 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (52/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 24 (52/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 24 (28/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 24 (4/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (36/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman has defeated Gandhi's Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara)!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 21 (Vijayanagara) has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (3.99)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 63.9%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (2 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (75/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (56/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 19 (37/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 22 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 23 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (2.16)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.8%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -145%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 23 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (2 Units)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 23 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Swordsman (2.67)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 95.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +5%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -120%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (1 Unit)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Swordsman is hit for 22 (54/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Swordsman is hit for 22 (32/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 24 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Swordsman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Catapult (2.27)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -120%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) has caused collateral damage! (1 Unit)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 26 (74/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 26 (48/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 25 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Trebuchet 26 (Vijayanagara) (4.00) vs Elizagawa's Axeman (2.11)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.2%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Attack: -100%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Axeman is hit for 23 (32/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Trebuchet 26 (Vijayanagara) has withdrawn from combat with a Axeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 5 (Bombay) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Longbowman (3.67)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 96.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (9/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 5 (Bombay) is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Longbowman is hit for 16 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Crossbowman 5 (Bombay) has defeated Elizagawa's Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Crossbowman 5 (Bombay) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Axeman (2.75)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 98.6%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Axeman is hit for 18 (7/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Axeman is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) has defeated Elizagawa's Axeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Pikeman 5 (Pataliputra) has destroyed a Axeman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 6 (Kyoto) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Swordsman (2.25)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 99.8%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Fortify: +5%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Swordsman is hit for 20 (5/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Swordsman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 6 (Kyoto) has defeated Elizagawa's Swordsman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Pikeman 6 (Kyoto) has destroyed a Swordsman!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 7 (Varanasi) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Knight (1.31)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: (Combat: -100%)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 7 (Varanasi) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Knight is hit for 26 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 7 (Varanasi) has defeated Elizagawa's Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Pikeman 7 (Varanasi) has destroyed a Knight!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 8 (Kyoto) (6.00) vs Elizagawa's Catapult (1.25)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 157, 940 AD: Elizagawa's Catapult is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 157, 940 AD: Gandhi's Pikeman 8 (Kyoto) has defeated Elizagawa's Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: Your Pikeman 8 (Kyoto) has destroyed a Catapult!
Turn 157, 940 AD: You have captured Canterbury!!!


@Bebekija
Feel free to play some more turns, I have not completed city micro, switch some to HM for HC and, I suppose, our new English cities.
 
The new problem now is that we need to defend Warwick since that stack is able to attack Warwick immediately. The easiest way is moving all our healthy xBows (3, fully promote them) and 1 pike 1N to block that stack's returning road, that tile is great for defense (50% forest + 25% river). In the same time, sacrifice a FW to 1S of that stack. Let's see what's the move next turn. :scan:

BTW, I checked the save carefully this time and saw that HC still has 130 votes, how did you get this conclusion, kossin?

kossin said:
EDIT: HC is now at 8 buddhist cities. Gift Satsuma and convert or wait 3 turns to whip last time?
Click to expand...

In that case, we can ignore the production of HMs for HC now and focus on Hammy and new captured English cities.
 
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