Trystero
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SGOTM 16 - U'nu'sual S'us'pec'ts
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ND would have been nice, but oh well, at least we get a heap of fail gold.
Isca was always going to be painful, so I think only losing 2 trebs is positively lucky.
5 more turns for AP, I don't think I could bear to watch. My 4 pop whip calculation was well out though, it currently requires a 10 pop whip.
And Qin is researching Banking & Hammy Nationalism = PERFECT!!!
Isca was always going to be painful, so I think only losing 2 trebs is positively lucky.
5 more turns for AP, I don't think I could bear to watch. My 4 pop whip calculation was well out though, it currently requires a 10 pop whip.
And Qin is researching Banking & Hammy Nationalism = PERFECT!!!
Trystero
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SteelHorse
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Good play!
Shame on ND, better luck on AP.
Are you planning to switch to mines for Commerce Oxford?
We need a Galleon on the east to get the final island city in the SE.
Shame on ND, better luck on AP.
Are you planning to switch to mines for Commerce Oxford?
We need a Galleon on the east to get the final island city in the SE.
Trystero
Deity
Oops. I knew I would forget something. I will do that this turn.
Yes. It would take ~10 turns to send one around to Gergovia/Bagacum. It might be better to build one in Paris (in 5 turns) now that it is not building ND.
Speaking of which, I presume Thebes is the next war target? Or do we want to eliminate Bagacum (which I think we should rename to X-Rated) now and leave the copper island for last? I am moving troops toward Isca anticipating we will declare on Ramesses fairly soon.
Trystero
Deity
I thought you meant they passed our score, rather than turns played.
We have slightly more culture than they do, and we really haven't been focusing on it. Could most of that be from the free GAs with Salons?
SteelHorse
Deity
Or maybe whip the Galleon out of Durno. Leave either Bag and Island for the moment and finish off Thebes. It is worrisome in revolt over there. It may get flipped.
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
Attack Ramesses. I am not at all worried about the "kill someone" requirement. We will mop up both Brennus and Ramesses soon. Better to take Ram's good cities now.
Trystero
Deity
Yeah, that is my feeling as well. I would favor taking Thebes first and then declaring and hitting Memphis and his northern coastal cities in a pincer movement.
I agree, go to Thebes immediately, then Memphis, send all Maces & Trebs. Send Bibracte X-bow & LB to defend Stone against the 2 GW's.
Once we have taken Thebes, he will probably give us the island city for peace, then 10 turns later we take X-rated. Saves us worrying about Galleons.
Most of our culture lead has come from the sheer number of cities we have (as we are Creative).
Once we have taken Thebes, he will probably give us the island city for peace, then 10 turns later we take X-rated. Saves us worrying about Galleons.
Most of our culture lead has come from the sheer number of cities we have (as we are Creative).
Isca needs to whip a Christian monastery the turn it comes out of revolt (6t). This is super important, as it then frees us from having to stay in OR to build Christian missionaries.
SM might need to be delayed by a turn to achieve this.
Paris could build a Buddhist Stupa now.
SM might need to be delayed by a turn to achieve this.
Paris could build a Buddhist Stupa now.
Yes, there are a fair number of troops that could go on the 2 Galleons & Galley in the Bay.
I think the idea of taking Memphis & maybe Elephantine the turn after we DoW him is excellent.
This frees up our stack to move on Heliopolis.
Trystero
Deity
OK - so the general plan for the next set of turns is to move troops to Isca and advance on Thebes, and leave the Celtic south for last. I will switch Paris to a Stupa.
Let me know if there is anything else that needs attention, and I will incorporate it in the PPP.
X-post. 
Move:
-the current Isca stack to Thebes, asap. Don't attack across the river
-the furthest 8 reinforcements on to the 3 boats (4 trebs, x-bow & 3 maces) (for Memphis)
-all the Stone units & 2nd super medic towards Isca (for Pi-Ramesses)
-the 2 trebs & 2 cats in Gergovia to Isca (also for Pi-Ramesses, get them into position 2 NE of Pi-Ramesses)
-Bibracte LB & x-bow to Stone (follow those GW's)
edit: I think I wold also sell Drama & Music to Qin, Sally & SB, for whatever gold they give us. We don't want any of them researching useless techs.
edit: I think I would also put ESP on SB, we only need 3 turns on him to see his reseach. We have lots of spare EP's on Qin & Hammy, so we can take it off them for a while and still see their research. After we can see SB's research, we can reasses the EP situation, and maybe then do Sally. Opinions anyone??
Move:
-the current Isca stack to Thebes, asap. Don't attack across the river
-the furthest 8 reinforcements on to the 3 boats (4 trebs, x-bow & 3 maces) (for Memphis)
-all the Stone units & 2nd super medic towards Isca (for Pi-Ramesses)
-the 2 trebs & 2 cats in Gergovia to Isca (also for Pi-Ramesses, get them into position 2 NE of Pi-Ramesses)
-Bibracte LB & x-bow to Stone (follow those GW's)
edit: I think I wold also sell Drama & Music to Qin, Sally & SB, for whatever gold they give us. We don't want any of them researching useless techs.
edit: I think I would also put ESP on SB, we only need 3 turns on him to see his reseach. We have lots of spare EP's on Qin & Hammy, so we can take it off them for a while and still see their research. After we can see SB's research, we can reasses the EP situation, and maybe then do Sally. Opinions anyone??
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
Agree
Just a few little things I noticed:
- Spy in Barb City, should work the watermill
- Sugar Gems, should work Gems instead of Farm (city still grows this turn)
- Galley cannot join attack on Memphis, its too far. I support to upgrade it to Galleon, will be useful later.
- Spy in Barb City, should work the watermill
- Sugar Gems, should work Gems instead of Farm (city still grows this turn)
- Galley cannot join attack on Memphis, its too far. I support to upgrade it to Galleon, will be useful later.
Trystero
Deity
OK - I will incorporate these suggestions into my PPP. I had not checked the tile assignments for this turn yet, so I had not noticed the spy. The AI's propensity to assign citizens as spies after CH's are built is one reason I check tile assignments every turn.
I am also going to build a few more trebs. We will lose at least 2 trying to take Thebes, since the city has another 2 LBs promoted to Guerrilla2 and it is on a hill. I think at least a couple more are worth the investment.
Agreed, trebs are the unit we are most likely to lose.
How many do we still have? We aren't likely to lose many against Ramesses, 2 per hill city at most.
We do want to protect our CR3 maces, they are lethal when promoted to rifles or infantry.
How many do we still have? We aren't likely to lose many against Ramesses, 2 per hill city at most.
We do want to protect our CR3 maces, they are lethal when promoted to rifles or infantry.
