SGOTM 16 - Plastic Ducks

You can send the chariot to scout the undiscovered area SE of the sugar city, I actually suggested this movement in sossos's session.

If you are clear on everything, I don't have more suggestions, which means you can play anytime when you are ready.:D

Try to record your move in the real game in order to produce a test save. The major usage of test game now is to help to have a general view of how to control the production in every city, so only food and hammers in cities matter. I guess it might be the last one we need.

BTW, what I suggested in Poit is to let worker chop a forest before improving the sugar.
 
We might wait with chop in Poitiers because I have a plan of producing one more Missionary in Chartres. It can unload missionary when it lands to pick up forces for island barb city. Actually, it seems it is better to have faster LH.
Poitiers Chariot will go a bit SE and return to barb city.

BTW, there is simple reserve option for failed Buddhist missionary. 11 :hammers: in catapult and then whip. T143 MoM is there if we get Calendar on T135 and no one gets it before us. Now gonna try to save some food in Orl and that's it.

My second pair of guests today will come soon so I'll be able to play later in the evening. Some more green lights would be fine until then. I'll manually save at the end of every turn so it will be possible to make accurate test game. Provided we are allowed to load game from past turns.
 
It's also possible that we can have Calendar on T134, at least that's what I observed before I stole the IW.

Faster gra is always better than faster LH. you can either whip or chop it.
 
Duckweed said:
It's also possible that we can have Calendar on T134, at least that's what I observed before I stole the IW.

Faster gra is always better than faster LH. you can either whip or chop it.
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That'd be nice. Then we can have it T142, theoretically. Doesn't change much. Maybe Buddhist Monastery OF will come late. In that case I'll take catapult. Will test to be prepared.

What I meant was that granary will be whipped in Poitiers and then LH will have chop in it and 1 pop whipped too. Better then wait for size 4 to whip. Actually, whip will probably not be necessary since Poitiers has base production of 5:hammers:.
 
:)
Sorry, what I was trying to ask was whether you'd simply play with suggestions or write a revised PPP/do an extra test.

As far as I'm concerned, we've covered most everything. Chop is good. :goodjob:
 
I'd rather play with suggestions. There are still things that can happen outside of our power of influence and then all PPP is good for nothing (while it still takes a lot of RL time to write with so many cities and turns). Also, many things are clear and understood.


I'll provide another test for approval and also give some opportunity to others to have their say in this turn set and then play.
 
Just a remark on my side:

Jewish shrine has not been built by 450 AD. Hence I would suggest to keep breeding the GProphet in Paris. 30 turns to get, which synchronizes rather well with our attack on Brennus.

Edit: I realize from Shaka's test game that Paris GP is still the next to arrive so I'm good :goodjob:
 
Do we want 60 for Alpha from Bren?
 
^ Not before we attempt to trade for calendar I guess.
 
I am playing actually. Opportunity gone. Weird stuff happening.
 
We have traded Calendar. Threatened barb city (sugar) sent 2 of 3 Archers out. One attacked Warrior securing worker. We won at 46% odds.

I am going to wait a bit for more opinions (new opportunity).
Problem is that Bren has many cities now and more on the way. If we don't sell him alpha, we'll stone age him. If he starts building research, he might get somewhere.
 
That's good, we only need less units to take the city, watch for Brennus's troops. If Alpha is worth 60g, go for it. Guess you got Calendar from Ram.
 
Ramesses asks for Currency.

I say f-off Ramesses.

Thoughts?
 
Grant him, we will likely convert to Chris in the future and he has some unique techs. Even without Currency, his research rate is good enough to get either LB or xbow before we attack him.
 
Yes, we will kill him eventually, but it's not bad to get some techs before we attack him. ~30 turns from now. We can't get everything from war.
 
Short sighted I am sometimes.

He is Pleased now.

That is it. Game submitted. Test game from sossos didn't match at some points but it's a long game now. I'll have trouble recreating all the steps too.
Don't have energy to do any more work like screenshots or test save.

Turn Log:
Spoiler :
Here is your Session Turn Log from 450 AD to 660 AD:

Turn 133, 450 AD: You have discovered Construction!
Turn 133, 450 AD: You have constructed a Granary in Amiens. Work has now begun on a Lighthouse.

Turn 134, 475 AD: Judaism has spread in Dijon.
Turn 134, 475 AD: You have discovered Calendar!

Turn 135, 500 AD: Orleans celebrates "We Love the Monarch Day"!!!
Turn 135, 500 AD: The borders of Toulouse have expanded!
Turn 135, 500 AD: Duke Ellington (Great Artist) has been born in Thebes (Ramesses II)!

Turn 136, 520 AD: Orleans celebrates "We Love the Monarch Day"!!!
Turn 136, 520 AD: You have trained Buddhist Missionary in Rheims. Work has now begun on a Courthouse.
Turn 136, 520 AD: You have constructed a Barracks in Grenoble. Work has now begun on a Swordsman.

Turn 137, 540 AD: Christianity has spread in Rheims.
Turn 137, 540 AD: You have constructed a Christian Monastery in Orleans. Work has now begun on Mausoleum of Maussollos.
Turn 137, 540 AD: You have trained a Catapult in Lyons. Work has now begun on a Swordsman.
Turn 137, 540 AD: You have trained a Catapult in Tours. Work has now begun on a Swordsman.
Turn 137, 540 AD: You have trained a Swordsman in Chartres. Work has now begun on Jewish Missionary.
Turn 137, 540 AD: Ramesses II has completed The Great Library!

Turn 138, 560 AD: Judaism has spread in Poitiers.
Turn 138, 560 AD: Narayana Guru (Great Prophet) has been born in a far away land!
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer (3.00) vs Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) (3.00)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Combat Odds: 56.8%
Turn 138, 560 AD: (Plot Defense: +50%)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 138, 560 AD: Louis XIV's Warrior 18 (Lyons) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!

Turn 139, 580 AD: Buddhism has spread in Orleans.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Christianity has spread in Paris.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Paris celebrates "We Love the Monarch Day"!!!
Turn 139, 580 AD: You have constructed a Courthouse in Chartres. Work has now begun on Jewish Missionary.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Christianity has spread in Cherbourg.
Turn 139, 580 AD: The Kashi Vishwanath has been built in a far away land!

Turn 140, 600 AD: You have discovered Machinery!
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have constructed a Buddhist Monastery in Paris. Work has now begun on a Christian Monastery.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Paris celebrates "We Love the Monarch Day"!!!
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have constructed a Buddhist Monastery in Orleans. Work has now begun on Mausoleum of Maussollos.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have trained Buddhist Missionary in Rheims. Work has now begun on Christian Missionary.

Turn 141, 620 AD: Paris has grown to size 12.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Lyons can hurry Maceman for 2⇴ with 25ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 37 turns.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Marseilles will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Marseilles can hurry Barracks for 2⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 63 turns.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Chartres has grown to size 7.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Avignon has grown to size 5.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Rouen has grown to size 6.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Rouen can hurry Courthouse for 3⇴ with 26ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 19 turns.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Grenoble has grown to size 4.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Dijon has grown to size 5.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Amiens has grown to size 4.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Buddhism has spread in Marseilles.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Christianity has spread in Lyons.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) (5.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (4.65)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 73.2%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Catapult 2 (Tours) has caused collateral damage! (2 Units)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours) is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer has defeated Louis XIV's Catapult 2 (Tours)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Catapult 2 (Tours) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 4 (Tours) (6.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (3.36)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 96.0%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Attack: -30%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 4 (Tours) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (55/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (30/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (5/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 4 (Tours) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 4 (Tours) is hit for 15 (55/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 4 (Tours) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Swordsman 4 (Tours) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) (6.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (3.69)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 94.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Attack: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (64/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) is hit for 16 (52/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) is hit for 16 (36/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) is hit for 16 (20/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (16/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 1 (Chartres) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Swordsman 1 (Chartres) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 1 (Orleans) (4.40) vs Barbarian's Archer (2.10)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 99.1%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 1 (Orleans) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 1 (Orleans) is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 21 (19/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 1 (Orleans) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Chariot 1 (Orleans) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have captured Chinook!!!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Orleans will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Lyons will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Rheims will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tours will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Marseilles will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have constructed a Barracks in Marseilles. Work has now begun on a Catapult.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Shwedagon Paya has been built in a far away land!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Judaism has spread in Rheims.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Brennus has founded Durocortorum in a distant land.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Mikhail Lomonosov (Great Scientist) has been born in a far away land!

Turn 142, 640 AD: Orleans has grown to size 9.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Orleans can hurry Mausoleum of Maussollos for 1⇴ with 18ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 67 turns.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Rheims has grown to size 6.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Chartres can hurry Jewish Monastery for 2⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 46 turns.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Poitiers can hurry Lighthouse for 1⇴ with 8ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 17 turns.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Ramesses II has 50 gold available for trade.
Turn 142, 640 AD: The borders of Avignon are about to expand.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 1 (Lyons) (5.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (4.65)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 73.2%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Lyons) has caused collateral damage! (2 Units)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 1 (Lyons) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 1 (Lyons) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Catapult 1 (Lyons) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Your Catapult 1 (Lyons) has withdrawn from combat with a Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) (6.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (3.82)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 93.7%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -30%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) is hit for 16 (52/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (64/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (40/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (16/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Your Swordsman 2 (Grenoble) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 3 (Lyons) (6.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (3.82)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 93.7%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Attack: -30%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (64/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 3 (Lyons) is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (40/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 3 (Lyons) is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (16/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Swordsman 3 (Lyons) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Your Swordsman 3 (Lyons) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 2 (Paris) (4.00) vs Barbarian's Archer (1.31)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Combat Odds: 99.8%
Turn 142, 640 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 22 (3/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV's Chariot 2 (Paris) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Your Chariot 2 (Paris) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 142, 640 AD: You have captured Circassian!!!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Tours will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Marseilles will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Chartres will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Avignon will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Rouen will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Grenoble will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Dijon will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Amiens will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 142, 640 AD: Louis XIV has completed Mausoleum of Maussollos!
Turn 142, 640 AD: You have constructed a Jewish Monastery in Chartres. Work has now begun on Jewish Missionary.
Turn 142, 640 AD: The borders of Avignon have expanded!
Turn 142, 640 AD: Mencius (Great Prophet) has been born in Bibracte (Brennus)!

Turn 143, 660 AD: Lyons can hurry Maceman for 2⇴ with 32ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 45 turns.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Rheims can hurry Christian Missionary for 1⇴ with 10ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 50 turns.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Tours has grown to size 7.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Tours can hurry Maceman for 2⇴ with 20ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 59 turns.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Marseilles has grown to size 6.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Avignon has grown to size 6.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Rouen has grown to size 4.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Rouen can hurry Library for 1⇴ with 20ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 27 turns.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Grenoble has grown to size 3.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Dijon has grown to size 6.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Dijon can hurry Courthouse for 3⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 28 turns.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Amiens has grown to size 5.
Turn 143, 660 AD: The borders of Grenoble are about to expand.
Turn 143, 660 AD: Brennus will trade Spices
Turn 143, 660 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Poitiers
 
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