ls612's C2C Units

Hydromancerx · Dec 23, 2012

@ls612

Ok same drill. Stuff we went over and then new stuff.

Seaplane
- Add "Can perform Carrier Operations

Notes: This should have SPECIALUNIT_FIGHTER it since its a type of Fighter aircraft.

Early Stealth Bomber
- Req Techs: Stealth (not Robotics or Guided Weapons)
- Can Evade Interception (40% Chance)
- Should Cost +6 or more :gold:

Per Turn since the unit before this costs +6 :gold:

per turn.

Now for the Recon Planes ...

Recon Plane
- Should probably cost some :gold:

per turn.

Hypersonic Recon Plane
- Increase Range to 30
- Should probably cost some :gold:

per turn.

Drone Recon Plane
- Decrease to Strength 1
- Decrease to Speed 1
- Increase to Range 50
- Add Hidden Nationality
- Add Can Only Defend
- Add Immune to First Strikes
- Add Can Evade Interception (60% Chance)
- Remove Cannot Enter Polar Ocean, Ocean, Tropical Ocean
- Remove Cannot Capture Cities or Units
- Remove Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
- Remove Ignores Terrain Movement Cost
- Remove Withdraw from Combat (30% Chance)
- Remove Cause Collateral Damage (Max 100% vs 8 Units)
- Remove +50% City Attack
- Remove +100 vs Wheeled Units
- Remove +100 vs Tracked Units
- Remove -75% vs Water Units
- Remove Flank Against Catapult, Trebuchet, Bombard, Cannon, Artillery, Light Artillery, Mobile Artillery, Rocket Artillery.

Notes: Should have nearly identical stats to Hypersonic Recon Plane except for Increased Range and Evade Chance.

Thanks in advance! :goodjob:

Alex Costa · Dec 23, 2012

Hydromancerx said:
@ls612

Ok same drill. Stuff we went over and then new stuff.

Seaplane
- Add "Can perform Carrier Operations

Notes: This should have SPECIALUNIT_FIGHTER it since its a type of Fighter aircraft.

Early Stealth Bomber
- Req Techs: Stealth (not Robotics or Guided Weapons)
- Can Evade Interception (40% Chance)
- Should Cost +6 or more Per Turn since the unit before this costs +6 per turn.

Now for the Recon Planes ...

Recon Plane
- Should probably cost some per turn.

Hypersonic Recon Plane
- Increase Range to 30
- Should probably cost some per turn.

Drone Recon Plane
- Decrease to Strength 1
- Decrease to Speed 1
- Increase to Range 50
- Add Hidden Nationality
- Add Can Only Defend
- Add Immune to First Strikes
- Add Can Evade Interception (60% Chance)
- Remove Cannot Enter Polar Ocean, Ocean, Tropical Ocean
- Remove Cannot Capture Cities or Units
- Remove Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
- Remove Ignores Terrain Movement Cost
- Remove Withdraw from Combat (30% Chance)
- Remove Cause Collateral Damage (Max 100% vs 8 Units)
- Remove +50% City Attack
- Remove +100 vs Wheeled Units
- Remove +100 vs Tracked Units
- Remove -75% vs Water Units
- Remove Flank Against Catapult, Trebuchet, Bombard, Cannon, Artillery, Light Artillery, Mobile Artillery, Rocket Artillery.

Notes: Should have nearly identical stats to Hypersonic Recon Plane except for Increased Range and Evade Chance.

Thanks in advance!

Sounds good but shouldn't the recon planes have extra line of sight?

Hydromancerx · Dec 23, 2012

@ls612

Ok so back to the tanks ...

Steam Tank
- Decrease Strength to 30

Note: I have given in to the change since it comes so early.

Tsar Tank
- Decrease Strength to 32
- Remove Armored Vehicles tech requirement.
- Add -50% Attack vs Siege Units
- Remove +25% Attack vs Wheeled Units

Tank
- Rename to "Medium Tank"

There is some more but I don't agree with it all so I will stop here for now and think the rest over.

Alex Costa said:
Sounds good but shouldn't the recon planes have extra line of sight?

That's a good idea. Have any idea for the stats of those?

Alex Costa · Dec 23, 2012

Hydromancerx said:
@ls612

Ok so back to the tanks ...

Steam Tank
- Decrease Strength to 30

Note: I have given in to the change since it comes so early.

Tsar Tank
- Decrease Strength to 32
- Remove Armored Vehicles tech requirement.
- Add -50% Attack vs Siege Units
- Remove +25% Attack vs Wheeled Units

Tank
- Rename to "Medium Tank"

There is some more but I don't agree with it all so I will stop here for now and think the rest over.

That's a good idea. Have any idea for the stats of those?

Sorry I haven't got any idea of the Strength to give them but I was thinking of giving them some promotion for them that gives them extra line of sight.

Hydromancerx · Dec 23, 2012

@ls612

Here is a NEW Unit ...

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Police APC
Graphic: (See Attachment) Animations based on this model.
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Civilians
Strength: 60
Movement: 2
Cost: 1500
Req Tech: Robotics AND Mechanized Warfare
Req Resource: Automobile AND (Biofuel OR Oi Products)
Req Building: Police Station
Upgrades From: Police Car
Upgrades To: Police Mech

Special Abilities

Can Only Defend
Cannot Capture Enemy Cities or Units
Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
Helps Thwart Rival Spies
1 First Strike
+50% City Defense
+40% vs Criminals
Starts with Policing I
-40 Crime Per Turn (City)
-20 Crime Per Turn (Plot)
-5 Per Turn

Notes: Use Police Car as a Base.

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Changes to Existing Units ...

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Police Car
Upgrade to: Police APC

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Police Mech

-50 Crime Per Turn (City)
-30 Crime Per Turn (Plot)
-6 Per Turn

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Thanks in advance! :goodjob:

Hydromancerx · Dec 24, 2012

@ls612

Here is a new culture Unit

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Haitian Rebel
Graphic: (See Attachment)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Gunpowder
Strength: 20
Movement: 1
Cost: 260
Req Tech: Flintlock
Req Resource: Haitian AND Firearms AND Sulphur
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Rifleman

Special Abilities

Builds 15% Faster with Lead
Builds 15% Faster with Flint
Starts with City Raider I, Hit and Run

Notes: Use Musketman as a Base.

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Thanks in advance! :goodjob:

ls612 · Dec 24, 2012

Alex Costa said:
Sounds good but shouldn't the recon planes have extra line of sight?

Yes, they should, I'll look at doing that.

ls612 · Dec 24, 2012

Hydromancerx said:
@ls612

Ok same drill. Stuff we went over and then new stuff.

Seaplane
- Add "Can perform Carrier Operations

Notes: This should have SPECIALUNIT_FIGHTER it since its a type of Fighter aircraft.

Thanks in advance!

No, there is a SPECIALUNIT_SEAPLANE which means that this unit can be launched from early Destroyers and Battleships. That is a rather nice and realistic feature, so I would like to leave it that way.

ls612 · Dec 27, 2012

@Hydro:

Have you even made the Haitian culture yet? I've looked in your Embassy folder and it doesn't seem to be there. :confused:

Hydromancerx · Dec 27, 2012

ls612 said:
@Hydro:

Have you even made the Haitian culture yet? I've looked in your Embassy folder and it doesn't seem to be there.

Yeah. But the tag is spelled wrong. (BONUS_HATTIAN)

Also can you make the Orthopter half as big? Its a little too big at the moment.

Hydromancerx · Dec 27, 2012

@ls612

Some more tweaks ...

F-14 Tomcat
Upgrades to: Modern Naval Fighter

Tsar Tank
- Decrease Strength to 32

Recon Plane
- Add Sentry I promotion.

Hypersonic Recon Plane
- Add Sentry I and Sentry II promotions.

Drone Recon Plane
- Add Sentry I, Sentry II and Sentry III promotions.

Thunderbrd · Dec 27, 2012

I take it you merged the Haitian culture with a preexisting effort to have designed the Hatti culture of the ancient middle east eh? (Neighbors of Ancient Syria) lol

Hydromancerx · Dec 28, 2012

@ls612

Thanks for adding the Police ACP. Please do not forget to update the anti-crime for the Police Mech too ...

Police Mech

-50 Crime Per Turn (City)
-30 Crime Per Turn (Plot)

Thanks!

Hydromancerx · Dec 29, 2012

@ls612

Here is another culture unit.

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Meteor Hammer
Graphic: Here (Its not holding the right weapon but it will have to do)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Mounted
Strength: 11
Movement: 2
Cost: 140
Req Tech: Armored Calvary
Req Resource: Cantoneese AND Horse AND Iron
Req Building: Horse Trainer
Upgrades To:

Special Abilities

Immune to First Strikes
Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
+25% Grassland Attack
+25% Plains Attack
+25% Desert Attack
-25% Jungle Attack
-25% Forest Attack
-25% Swamp Attack
Flank Attack vs Catapult, Trebuchet
Starts with Commando, Cover I, Pinch I

Notes: Use Knight as a Base.

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Thanks! :goodjob:

ls612 · Dec 29, 2012

Hydromancerx said:
@ls612

Here is another culture unit.

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Meteor Hammer
Graphic: Here (Its not holding the right weapon but it will have to do)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Mounted
Strength: 11
Movement: 2
Cost: 140
Req Tech: Armored Calvary
Req Resource: Cantoneese AND Horse AND Iron
Req Building: Horse Trainer
Upgrades To:

Special Abilities

Immune to First Strikes

Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses

+25% Grassland Attack

+25% Plains Attack

+25% Desert Attack

-25% Jungle Attack

-25% Forest Attack

-25% Swamp Attack

Flank Attack vs Catapult, Trebuchet

Starts with Commando, Cover I, Pinch I

Notes: Use Knight as a Base.

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Thanks!

Could we please find a better name for it than the "meteor hammer"? That just makes it sound like some villain from a poor Japanese comic than a cantonese UU from the middle ages.

Hydromancerx · Dec 29, 2012

ls612 said:
Could we please find a better name for it than the "meteor hammer"? That just makes it sound like some villain from a poor Japanese comic than a cantonese UU from the middle ages.

That's the most common name.

Other names in use include; meteor, liu xing chui, dai chui, flying hammer or dragon's fist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_hammer

Note that the icon/button and inspiration for the unit was from AoE3. Which had a unit of this name.

http://aoe3.heavengames.com/gameinfo/dyn/china/units

Hydromancerx · Dec 31, 2012

@ls612

Here is a new culture Unit

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Saxon Raider
Graphic: Here (Use the Swordsman)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Melee
Strength: 11
Movement: 1
Cost: 110
Req Tech: Smithing
Req Resource: Saxon AND Iron
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Heavy Swordsman

Special Abilities

+20 City Attack
Starts with City Raider I, City Raider II

Notes: Use Swordsman as a Base.

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Thanks in advance! :goodjob:

Hydromancerx · Jan 1, 2013

@ls612

Here is another culture unit.

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Uhlan
Graphic: Here (The Prussian Hussar model)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Mounted
Strength: 27
Movement: 2
Cost: 240
Req Tech: Military Tradition AND Rifling
Req Resource: Prussian AND Horse AND Firearms AND Ammunition
Req Building: Horse Trainer
Upgrades To: Trench Calvary

Special Abilities

Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
Can Withdraw from Combat (30% Chance)
+25% Grassland Attack
+25% Plains Attack
+25% Desert Attack
-25% Jungle Attack
-25% Forest Attack
-25% Swamp Attack
+50% vs Spearman
+50% vs Pikeman
+50% vs Heavy Pikeman
+50% vs Cannon
Flank Attack vs Catapult, Trebuchet, Bombard, Cannon
Starts with Commando, Combat I, Combat II

Notes: Use Cavalry as a Base.

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Thanks! :goodjob:

Hydromancerx · Jan 2, 2013

@ls612

Please give the Lunar Rover the 5 Lunar Terrain Immunity promotions which are ...

- Terrain Immunity (Lunar Barren)
- Terrain Immunity (Lunar Plains)
- Terrain Immunity (Lunar Desert)
- Terrain Immunity (Lunar Basalt)
- Terrain Immunity (Lunar Rocky)

If you have no idea what I am talking about please look in the Promotion topic.

Thanks in advance! :goodjob:

Hydromancerx · Jan 2, 2013

@ls612

Here is another Lunar unit.

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Lunar Lander
Graphic: Here
Icon: ?
Type: ? (Do we need a new Category of Units?)
Strength: 1
Movement: 0
Cost: ?
Req Tech: Lunar Exploration
Req Resource: Aluminum AND Parts AND Computer AND Rocket Fuel
Req Building: National Aerospace Agency
Req Program: Apollo Program
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities

National Unit (1 Allowed)
Cannot Only Defend
Cargo Space 4 (Can Only Carry Lunar Rover, Lunar Worker or Cargo Pod)
Builds 20% Faster with Titanium
Starts with the 5 Lunar Terrain Immunity promotions.
Costs +100 Per Turn

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Thanks! :goodjob:

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