2014 CiV1 - THE SPACE RACE CONQUEST (Ver. 3)

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2014 CiV1 - THE SPACE RACE CONQUEST (Ver. 3)

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2014 SPACE RACE CONQUEST (Version #3) (update: May 2014)

Your Civilization just has JUST ONE MiSSiON:
LAUNCH Your Space Ship To ALPHA CENTAURi
- as fast as possible
!

The contest is 'open end' ( -as usual- it may run now until the year 2020 :lol: ).

/me (or somebody whoever wants it, ...later in 2030) will update the

SCORE TABLE | Hall Of Fame
the Number One in the SCORE TABLE / hall of fame
will be that CFF member who lands his SS on Alpha Centauri
earlier than anybody else.
if more contestants' Space Ships
reach "ALPHA CENTAURI" that same (= earliest) year
then the SCORE and Percentage will make the difference - of course...


SCORES ...
Code:
RANK  Civ.DOS.1.Fanatic - Centauri Date  - SCORE /  %         -    DATE

01    humbe                  3080 BC         82  /   1%         August 17, 2016
02    Autumn Leaf	     2560 BC	    258  /   5%            May 14, 2016
03    weevil		     2380 BC	    259  /   5%      September 21, 2014
04    dom111		     2320 BC	    297  /   5%        January 24, 2016
05    GoldBerg                980 BC        298  /   5%            May 15, 2014


INSTRUCTIONS
we (just) take
this as
START situation:

3980 BC
EARTH map
CHiEFTAiN LEVEL
no techs, no units

The whole game is open map, so you can see the whole world map from the beginning.

iMPORTANT:
Your Space Ship is already build 'in orbit' and ready to fly -
you just have to build

1. The Apollo Wonder
AND
2. one SS Structure


to be able 'to detect it in space' (= civ1's 'WORLD MENU' ;) ),
access and LAUNCH it -
JUST THESE things are in need
to cause the game a flight time of
a minimum of 20 years ( "20 years" is ONE TURN ingame before the year of 1 AD)

EVERY FLiGHT-TiME LOWER
THAN "20 YEARS" would CAUSE PROBLEMS
SCORiNG YOUR GAME (in THiS competition)


- Invent the TECHS
(that's what this game scenario is all about)
- Build The Apollo Wonder
- Build that S.S. structure (just one is enough)
and
- LAUNCH the S.S.
AND
- save your game BEFORE "next turn"
and it's all good...


iMPORTANT - USE THESE CHEATS ("How to play") here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13222681&postcount=2

TRIBES:
ROMANS (YOU) - chief CAESAR (capital city not build so far)
BABYLONiANS - chief HAMMURABi (Babylon)
GERMANS - chief FREDERIK (Berlin)


The whole game is open map, you can see the whole world from the beginning.

Berlin
is located at North American continent

Babylon
is located in the heart of Australia

Because of this
those civs won't 'break out' and 'disturb this contest's results'
or 'get destroyed by Barbarians',
and the Barbarians are de-activated
(but when you disturb / awake them in a hut
they will stay in place (you may "carefully remove them" (=ATTACK) when they stand in your ways of building
- Barbarians may also appear somewhere on the map,
but like frozen in the place they appear.
)


- so scoring in this game is "no game of luck",
just pure strategy/ability/gameplay of yours.

possible locations of cities (found in huts) and location of capitals Berlin and Babylon
Code:
                         .......                                                
               .. . ... ........      .     ..     ...          .               
    .....    ........    .......     ..               ..     .  .      *Palmyra 
   ........... . .....   ......               .     .....*Brundisium  ...       
 ............. ....  .   .....               .  .. ...................... .     
     .....  ..........  ....          ...      . ....*Nicopolis............     
     ..........   . .   ..    .      ....... ......................... ..*Gordio
    ..........   ....               ...... ...........................  .       
    ....... .........          ..  ... ...........................*LAST ..      
    ....... ... .....         ..     . ...*Rome......................    .      
    .................          .   .   ...................... .........         
   .....   .. ..... .         ..   .............*Caesarea.............          
   ..... +Berlin. .             ...... ................*Carthage....*Antioch    
  ......   ....                ................... .................... ..      
  ............                  ..............  .........................       
  ............                .... ... ...   .. ................... ......      
  ..........                  ...   ..   ...... ...................    . .      
  . ....   .                         .     ..........................  .        
  . ...    .                  .....        ...........................  .       
    ...                       ........ .. ... ........................   .      
    ... .   ..               .................. ......................          
     ....    ..             ............... ...    ...................          
        ..                  ..............*Syracuse   ..............   .        
         .                 ................  ......    .....  .....    ..       
         .. ....           .................  ....      ...   ....     ..       
          .......          .............. ...  ..       ...    ....     ..      
           ........        ..............  ...  .       ..       ..      .      
           .........        ...................          .      *Byzantium      
          ...........        .... ..............                .  ... ...      
          .............            ......... ...            ......  ...... .    
           .............         ........... ..                 ..... ..   ...  
           ............            ........  .                   .           .. 
            ..........              ..........                   ..     .       
            ..........              .........                     .       ..    
              ........               ........                          .......  
              .......                .....*Cyrene                      .......  
              ......                .......... .                    ........... 
              ......                ........   .                   .....   .... 
              .....                  .......   .                   ..... +Babylo
               ...                   ........ ..                   .....   .... 
               ..                    ......   .                    ............ 
               ..                     .....                        ...  ......  
                .                     ....                              .....
the first lines
of the replay.txt of all contestants
will show the following:
Code:
4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
You start with
  • 50 GOLD
  • NO TECHNOLOGiES
  • NO CiTY
  • ONE SETTLER UNiT
.
.
.


GAME Start FILES
of
2014 SPACE RACE CONQUEST

(copy both files into your civ folder
and
select ' load a saved game ' at civ1 DOS)


:egypt: " Chief Caesar of the Romans at 3980 BC "
 

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(Believe it or not - in the 2014 SPACE RACE CONQUEST [Version #3] you should)
1 | USE THESE CHEATS
  • ' SAVEGAME CHEAT ' (save a game at critical phase or everytime, load the save game again
    and try any action again and again until the result satisfies you -
    for example to change a hut into a city (or an actually needed science),
    to win the attack against a frozen standing Barbarian ...and so on...
    )
    The Save Game Cheat
    Apart from the obvious reasons for saving regularly. It is well known that the computer cheats when it comes to World Wonders. They appear to be awarded randomly to any city the computer likes. If one gets awarded, it is possible to go back to your last save, and the chances are that it won't be awarded again for a while.

    Another use for the save option is when you are having problems attacking your enemies because of an uncooperative senate.

    * 1. Have a revolution
    * 2. Attack whoever you wish
    * 3. Save the game
    * 4. Reload it
    * 5. You will be prompted for the type of government you require
  • ' SETTLER CHEAT ' (start any 'settler action' over & over again until (for example)
    the road is build, the hills change to mines, the jungle change to grassland, the grassland is irrigated -
    in one turn
    )
    The Settler Cheat
    Most settler functions take from 2 to 12 turns to accomplish. Any of them can be accomplished in one turn by putting the settler a square, pressing R or M or I or whatever, clicking on the settler to make it blink again (which seemingly aborts the function) and pressing R again. Keep repeating this process until the road or irrigation is finished. If you turn on the End-of-Turn feature, this helps you perform the desired function in one turn. Otherwise you could just keep some nearby piece blinking so that the turn doesn't end before you've milked the cheat for all it's worth. Irrigating swamp takes 10 or 11 turns so this cheat is real handy.
  • ' WATERBRiDGE CHEAT ' (use a ship and up to 2 settlers to build railroad tracks on water) -> additional trade/science/happy points on water squares
    The Settler/Railroad at Sea Cheat
    Have a settler in a ship.
    Command the ship to "U"nload.
    Command the settler to "R"oad.
    Click on the ship. (I'm assuming you have a mouse)
    Click on the settler's icon in the pop-up, "waking up" the settler
    Press some key or click elsewhere to clear the pop-up (I press "R")
    Go back to the step of commanding the settler to "R"oad.
    Once the settler completes a phase (road or rail) the ship underneath
    it must move once, to make it willing to start again.
    I find it best to use *two* settlers; for each sea square one builds
    the road, the other builds the rail; then move the ship. With two ships
    and a ship movement cheat (q.v.) there is no theoretical limit to how
    much of the ocean can be railroaded in a single turn
    ---Bob O'Bob
the reason(s) to name these cheats is
that those cheats are not visible (just waterbridging, of course :D )
you just might guess that some contestants/opponents did use the savegame cheat or settler cheat, but that's all...
so
you have to
savegame cheat, settler-one-turn cheat, maybe waterbridge ...
Period. :king:


2 | SAVE GAME THIS WAY


1. SAVE GAME in THAT TURN of your game
where you did LAUNCH your spaceship already
and the game -did- confirm that your Spaceship is LAUNCHED (= "black screen").
Every turn later will be a waste - because "it's 20 years later"... ;)

2. Build city improvements with your spare money to improve your civilization's score
before you LAUNCH your ship

3. Set your LUXURY to 100% 1 turn before you SAVE your GAME
to get a better score !




3 | POST YOUR SAVE GAME HERE IN THIS THREAD


Hit 'post reply' or 'edit' button ...
you may have to 'Go Advanced' button ( hit it )
after this your 'edit' reloads
and shows 'MANAGE ATTACHMENTS' button down at bottom now -
hit that button,
and upload your MAP or SVE file
either CIVIL0.MAP or ...CIVIL3.MAP
either CIVIL0.SVE or ...CIVIL3.SVE

that ones that include "your Spaceship is LAUNCHED" SAVE (=sort by newest date),
saved BY YOU right after
that "your Spaceship is LAUNCHED" message ...
(--> NO earlier or later game save, please).
The EXAMPLE of posting these ATTACHMENTS is HERE:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13222921&postcount=3 (next post)

.

.

.


(old stuff here)
Spoiler :


important >>>
leave the babylonian OR the german civilization alive -
do Not WiN the game by "CONQUERiNG the WORLD"!
additional instructional information to win the contest
is here - PLEASE read --->

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2600608&postcount=2
 
I played a first game, 3-4 hours, half-sleepy,
to show that everybody should be able to achieve a result like that -
so maybe something around 1000 BC should be the lowest result here,
the civ1 experts / specialists will probably hit some years lower than 2000 BC.

... just as a first entry
to show you the files
i expect to see here.

Additional i did add the
replay.txt
that everybody is able to cause
within CIV1 game himself/herself
( generate it by loading the savegame of users here )
from their savegame
with a launch-confirmed spaceship.

Here's my replay.txt printed:

Code:
................................................................................
    . .   ..       .  .   .      .   .     . .  .         . . ..  .      ..  .  
                                                                                
                         .......                                                
               .. . ... ........      .     ..     ...          .               
    .....    ........    .......     ..               ..     .  .      .        
   ........... . .....   ......               .     .....*Antioch.    ...       
 ............. ....  .   .....               .  .. ...................... .     
     .....  ..........  ....          ...      . ..........................     
     ..........   . .   ..    .      ....... ......................... ...      
    ..........   ....               ...... ...........................  .       
    ....... .........          .*Rome. .............................    ..      
    ....... ... .....         ..     . ...*Caesarea..................    .      
    .................          .   .   ...................... *Brundisium       
   .....   .. ..... .         ..   .............*Carthage.............          
   ..... +Berlin. .             ...... ................*Byzantium......         
  ......   ....                ................... .................... ..      
  ............                  ..............  ...*Nicopolis............       
  ............                .... ... ...   .. ................... ...*Tyrus   
  ..........                  ...   ..   ...... ...................    . .      
  . ....   .                         .     ........................*Palmyra     
  . ...    .                  .....        ...........................  .       
    ...                       ........ .. ... ........................   .      
    ... .   ..               .................. ......................          
     ....    ..             ............... ...    ...................          
        ..                  ............... ......    ..............   .        
         .                 ................  ......    .....  .....    ..       
         .. ....           .................  ....      ...   ....     ..       
          .......          .............. ...  ..       ...    ....     ..      
           ........        ..............  ...  .       ..       ..      .      
           .........        ...................          .      .    .          
          ...........        .... ..............                .  ... *Gordion 
          .............            ......... ...            ......  ...... .    
           .............         ........... ..                 ...*Cyrene ...  
           ............            ........  .                   .           .. 
            ..........              ..........                   ..     .       
            ..........              .........                     .       ..    
              ........               ........                          .......  
              .......                .........                         .......  
              ......                .......... .                    ........... 
              ......                ........   .                   .....   .... 
              .....                  .......   .                   ..... +Babylo
               ...                   ........ ..                   .....   .... 
               ..                    ......   .                    ............ 
               ..                     ..*Syracuse                  ...  ......  
                .                     ....                              .....   
                .                     .                                   ..    
                                                                                
         .   ..     .      .      .  .        .  ..    .    .     ..   ..   ..  
................................................................................
4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3840 BC: Germans discover Masonry
3820 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ROME
3680 BC: Babylonians produce first Militia
3680 BC: Babylonians discover Bronze Working
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3520 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3480 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAESAREA
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3380 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3260 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CARTHAGE
3200 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST DIPLOMAT
3180 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NICOPOLIS
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3080 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BYZANTIUM
3040 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
3020 BC: Babylonians produce first Phalanx
3000 BC: ROMANS: 5 CITIES; 140,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
2960 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
2940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
2920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
2860 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
2720 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
2640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
2600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
2560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
2540 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BRUNDISIUM
2480 BC: ROMANS FORM DEMOCRATIC
2460 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SYRACUSE
2460 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ANTIOCH
2440 BC: ROMANS BUILD THE COLOSSUS
2440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
2420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MONARCHY
2400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
2400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
2380 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PALMYRA
2360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RELIGION
2320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
2320 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
2320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER HORSEBACK RIDING
2280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
2260 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FEUDALISM
2240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
2200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
2180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
2160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
2140 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CYRENE
2100 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GORDION
2000 BC: ROMANS: 11 CITIES; 1,560,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
1980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
1980 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRUS
1940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
1920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
1880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
1860 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
1820 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
1780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
1740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
1700 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
1600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
1580 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
1540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEEL
1480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
1460 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
1440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
1420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER AUTOMOBILE
1340 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GENETIC ENGINEERING
1300 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSCRIPTION
1280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASS PRODUCTION
1260 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
1240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
1220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
1180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
1160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
1140 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
1120 BC: ROMANS BUILD WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE
1040 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM
1020 BC: ROMANS BUILD J.S.BACH'S CATHEDRAL
1020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PLASTICS
1000 BC: ROMANS: 12 CITIES; 4,990,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans

Here are the resulting game files with that original replay.txt file -
you can see the space ship arrive at Alpha Centauri
by causing the game
to access the next turn that leads to the year of 980 BC.

After ESCape from replay you will see
¹ the powergraph screen
after that
² the CIVILIZATION SCORE screen (in my test case with the result "298")
and after that
³ the civilization RATING screen ( in this case "5%" )

Code:
##   GoldBerg                 980 BC        298  /   5%           Mai 15, 2014
 

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  • REPLAY.TXT
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Today I tried a 2nd game to do better -
and guess what - i didn't.

Here's that replay.txt printed:

Code:
................................................................................
    . .   ..       .  .   .      .   .     . .  .         . . ..  .      ..  .  
                                                                                
                         .......                                                
               .. . ... ........      .     ..     ...          .               
    .....    ........    .......     ..               ..     .  .      *Antioch 
   ........... . .....   ......               .     .........  ...    ...       
 ............. ....  .   .....               .  .. ...................... .     
     .....  ..........  ....          ...      . ....*Syracuse.............     
     ..........   . .   ..    .      ....... ......................... ..*Palmyr
    ..........   ....               ...... ...........................  .       
    ....... .........          ..  ... .............................    ..      
    ....... ... .....         ..     . ..............................    .      
    .................          .   .   ...................... .........         
   .....   .. ..... .         ..   ...................................          
   ..... +Berlin. .             .*Caesarea.............................         
  ......   ....                .............*Rome. .................... ..      
  ............                  ..............  .........................       
  ............                .... ... ...   .. ................... ......      
  ..........                  ...   ..   ...... ...................    . .      
  . ....   .                         .     ..........................  .        
  . ...    .                  .....        ...........................  .       
    ...                       ........ .. *Nicopolis..................   .      
    ... .   ..               .................. ......................          
     ....    ..             ............... ...    ...................          
        ..                  ............... ......    ..............   .        
         .                 ................  ......    .....  .....    ..       
         .. ....           .................  ....      ...   ....     ..       
          .......          .............. ...  ..       ..*Byzant*Cyrene..      
           ........        ..............  ...  .       ..       ..      .      
           .........        ...................          .      .    .          
          ...........        .... ..............                .  ... ...      
          .............            ......... ...            ......  ...... .    
           .............         ........... ..                 ...*Carthage..  
           ............            ........  .                   .           .. 
            ..........              ..........                   ..     .       
            ..........              .........                     .       ..    
              ........               ........                          .......  
              .......                .....*Brundisium                  .......  
              ......                .......... .                    ........... 
              ......                ........   .                   .....   .... 
              .....                  .......   .                   ..... +Babylo
               ...                   ........ ..                   .....   .... 
               ..                    ......   .                    ............ 
               ..                     .....                        ...  ......  
                .                     ....                              .....   
                .                     .                                   ..    
                                                                                
         .   ..     .      .      .  .        .  ..    .    .     ..   ..   ..  
................................................................................
4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3680 BC: Babylonians produce first Militia
3540 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3480 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ROME
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER HORSEBACK RIDING
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3240 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3080 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3000 BC: ROMANS: 1 CITIES; 10,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Germans 3:Babylonians 
2960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
2960 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAESAREA
2920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRONZE WORKING
2800 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CARTHAGE
2760 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST DIPLOMAT
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
2640 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
2580 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NICOPOLIS
2560 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BYZANTIUM
2540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
2520 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BRUNDISIUM
2480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
2440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
2420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
2400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
2400 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SYRACUSE
2360 BC: ROMANS BUILD THE COLOSSUS
2340 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
2320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MONARCHY
2280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
2200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
2180 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST TRIREME
2120 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
2060 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
2060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
2040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
2000 BC: ROMANS: 7 CITIES; 1,340,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
2000 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
1960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RELIGION
1960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
1920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
1880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
1880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
1800 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ANTIOCH
1760 BC: ROMANS FORM DEMOCRATIC
1760 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FEUDALISM
1760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PALMYRA
1740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
1700 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
1680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
1680 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CYRENE
1640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
1620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
1580 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
1560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ATOMIC THEORY
1540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
1520 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
1480 BC: ROMANS BUILD J.S.BACH'S CATHEDRAL
1480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
1440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
1400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEEL
1360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
1320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
1300 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GENETIC ENGINEERING
1260 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
1240 BC: ROMANS BUILD ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE
1220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
1180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
1160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER AUTOMOBILE
1100 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSCRIPTION
1060 BC: ROMANS BUILD DARWIN'S VOYAGE
1060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASS PRODUCTION
1060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RECYCLING
1060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NUCLEAR FISSION
1020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
1000 BC: ROMANS: 10 CITIES; 4,230,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
860 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
800 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM

Here are the resulting game files with that original replay.txt file -
you can see the space ship arrive at Alpha Centauri
by causing the game
to access the next turn that leads to the year of 760 BC.

After ESCape from replay you will see
¹ the powergraph screen
after that
² the CIVILIZATION SCORE screen (in this case with the result "285")
and after that
³ the civilization RATING screen ( in this case "5%" )

Code:
##   GoldBerg                 760 BC        285  /   5%           July 27, 2014
 

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This sounded like fun so I gave it a shot. My result:

Year: 2380 BC
Score: 259
Approval: 5%

My strategy was to go full science tax rate and then take 50 gold from huts which I used to buy settlers for a rapid early game expansion. Later when techs got more expensive I switched to taking tech from huts and getting gold from tax.

There is definitely room for improvement here. For instance, I accidentally got several non-essential techs in like pottery and religion. Also, more patience to re-try to get essential techs from huts would improve the result but at some point you just get tired of retrying.

Doing the settler re-activate cheat felt really dirty. I understand the problem that some might use it and some might not, but for the next time I would prefer if you explicitly said you CAN'T use these cheats.

Code:
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    . .   ..       .  .   .      .   .     . .  .         . . ..  .      ..  .  
                                                                                
                         .......                                                
               .. . ... ........      .     ..     ...          .               
    .....    ........    .......     ..               ..     .  .      .        
   ........... . .....   ......               .     .........  ...    ...       
 ............. ....  .   .....               .  .. ...................... .     
     .....  ..........  ....          ...      . ....*Antioch..............     
     ..........   . .   ..    .      ....*Salamis..................... ...      
    ..........   ....               ..*Cyrene.*Na*Cannae..............  .       
    ....... .........          ..  ... ...........................*Turin..      
    ....... ... .....         .*Brundisium*Carthage.*Sid*Milan.......    .      
    .................          .   .   ...................... .........         
   .....   .. ..... .         ..   *Byzantium...*Syracuse.............          
   ..... +Berlin. .             ...... ................*Capua.......*Verona     
  ......   ....                *Caesarea*Art*Nicopo*Ravenna............ ..      
  ............                  ..*Cremona....  .........................       
  ............                .... ..*Rome   .. ................... ...*Hamburg 
  ..........                  .*Tyrus.   *Gordion..................    . .      
  . ....   .                         .     ....*Jerusalem..........*Crete       
  . ...    .                  .....        ...........................  .       
    ...                       .......*Tyre... ........................   .      
    ... .   ..               .................. ..*Tarsus.............          
     ....    ..             ............... ...    ...................          
        ..                  ..............*Palmyra    ..............   .        
         .                 ................  ......    .....  *Utica   ..       
         .. ....           .................  ....      ...   ....     ..       
          .......          .............. ...  ..       ..*Genoa...     ..      
           ........        ..............  ...  .       ..       ..      .      
           .........        ...................          .      *Damascus       
          ...........        .... ...*Cun*Venice                .  ... *Bergen  
          .............            ......... ...            ......  ...... .    
           .............         ........... ..                 ...*Salzburg..  
           ............            *Prague.  .                   .           .. 
            ..........              ..........                   ..     .       
            ..........              .........                     .       ..    
              ........               .*Lisbon                          .......  
              .......                .....*Seleucia                    .......  
              ......                .......... .                    ........... 
              ......                ........   .                   .....   .... 
              .....                  ......*Issus                  ..... +Babylo
               ...                   ........ ..                   .....   .... 
               ..                    ......   .                    ............ 
               ..                     ..*Mecca                     ...  ......  
                .                     ....                              .....   
                .                     .                                   ..    
                                                                                
         .   ..     .      .      .  .        .  ..    .    .     ..   ..   ..  
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4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3940 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ROME
3920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3880 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAESAREA
3840 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST MILITIA
3780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3740 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CARTHAGE
3700 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3680 BC: Germans discover Pottery
3640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3640 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NICOPOLIS
3620 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BYZANTIUM
3560 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BRUNDISIUM
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3540 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SYRACUSE
3520 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ANTIOCH
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3440 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PALMYRA
3420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3400 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CYRENE
3380 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3360 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3360 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GORDION
3340 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST DIPLOMAT
3340 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRUS
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF JERUSALEM
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SELEUCIA
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3240 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF RAVENNA
3220 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ARTAXATA
3220 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MECCA
3200 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NAPLES
3180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRONZE WORKING
3180 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SIDON
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
3120 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRE
3100 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3080 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TARSUS
3080 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ISSUS
3060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
3060 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CUNAXA
3060 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CREMONA
3040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
3020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
3020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MONARCHY
3000 BC: ROMANS: 24 CITIES; 520,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
3000 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
3000 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CANNAE
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
2960 BC: ROMANS FORM DEMOCRATIC
2960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
2940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
2920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
2880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
2880 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAPUA
2880 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TURIN
2840 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
2840 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GENOA
2840 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
2820 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SAIL
2800 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
2800 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
2780 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF UTICA
2760 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
2760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CRETE
2740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
2740 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF DAMASCUS
2720 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST TRANSPORT
2720 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF VERONA
2700 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
2700 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
2700 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SALAMIS
2680 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF LISBON
2680 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF HAMBURG
2660 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
2640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
2640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RELIGION
2640 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PRAGUE
2620 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SALZBURG
2620 BC: Babylonians produce first Phalanx
2600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
2600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
2580 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BERGEN
2560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
2560 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF VENICE
2540 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
2540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
2500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
2500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
2480 BC: ROMANS BUILD DARWIN'S VOYAGE
2480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
2480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
2480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
2460 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
2440 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MILAN
2420 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM
 

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This sounded like fun so I gave it a shot. My result:

Year: 2380 BC
Score: 259
Approval: 5%

...

Thanks !
I did add your results to the score table. :goodjob:

Sorry it took so much time. :sad:
 
I enjoyed this, I think I could bring the date back a little, I utilised 100% lux a few times to boost the city sizes and would've been much closer to weevil's date if I'd managed my money better (2420 discovery of Space Flight and 2360 built Apollo Program, should've been next turn!) and I might give this another go at some point, but I'm good for the moment!

Year: 2320 BC
Score: 297
Rating: 5%

replay.txt:

Code:
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    . .   ..       .  .   .      .   .     . .  .         . . ..  .      ..  .  
                                                                                
                         .......                                                
               .. . ... ........      .     ..     ...          .               
    .....    ........    .......     ..               ..     .  .      *Prague  
   ........... . .....   ......               .     .........  ...    ...       
 ............. ....  .   .....               .  .. ...................... .     
     .....  ..........  ....          ...      . ..........................     
     ..........   . .   ..    .      ....... ......................... ..*Hambur
    ..........   ....               ..*Artaxat*Syra*Naples............  .       
    ....... .........          .*Carthage.........................*Salamis      
    ....... ... .....         ..     . ...*Nicopolis.................    .      
    .................          .   .   ...................... .........         
   .....   .. ..... .         ..   .*Cyrene.....*Brundisium...........          
   ..... +Berlin. .             ...... ................*Cremona.....*Genoa      
  ......   ....                *Caesarea....*Byzantium................. ..      
  ............                  ..............  ...*Antioch.....*Turin...       
  ............                .... ..*Rome   .. ................... ......      
  ..........                  ...   ..   *Palmyra..................    . .      
  . ....   .                         .     ....*Sidon................  .        
  . ...    .                  .....        ...........................  .       
    ...                       ........ .. ... .....*Cunaxa............   .      
    ... .   ..               .................. .........*Damascus....          
     ....    ..             .........*Utica ...    ...................          
        ..                  ..............*Tyrus..    .............*Verona      
         .                 ................  ......    .....  *Jerusalem.       
         .. ....           .................  ....      ...   ....     ..       
          .......          .............. ...  ..       ..*Gordion.     ..      
           ........        ....*Capua....  ...  .       ..       ..      .      
           .........        ...................          .      *Ravenna        
          ...........        .... ...*Cannae....                .  ... *Issus   
          .............            ......... ..*Seleucia    ......  ...... .    
           .............         .........*Lisbon               ...*Tyre   ...  
           ............            ........  .                   .           .. 
            ..........              ..........                   ..     .       
            ..........              .........                     .       ..    
              ........               ........                          .......  
              .......                .....*Mecca                       .......  
              ......                ..*Crete.. .                    ........... 
              ......                ........   .                   .....   .... 
              .....                  .......   .                   ..... +Babylo
               ...                   ........ ..                   .....   .... 
               ..                    ......   .                    ............ 
               ..                     ..*Tarsus                    ...  ......  
                .                     ....                              .....   
                .                     .                                   ..    
                                                                                
         .   ..     .      .      .  .        .  ..    .    .     ..   ..   ..  
................................................................................
4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3940 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ROME
3920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3880 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAESAREA
3840 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3820 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CARTHAGE
3780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3680 BC: Babylonians produce first Militia
3660 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NICOPOLIS
3620 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BYZANTIUM
3600 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3580 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BRUNDISIUM
3540 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SYRACUSE
3520 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3520 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3460 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ANTIOCH
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
3420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
3420 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PALMYRA
3420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3380 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
3360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
3360 BC: ROMANS FORM DEMOCRATIC
3340 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3320 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST DIPLOMAT
3300 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3300 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CYRENE
3280 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GORDION
3260 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRONZE WORKING
3240 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRUS
3220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
3220 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF JERUSALEM
3200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
3180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
3180 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SELEUCIA
3180 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF RAVENNA
3140 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ARTAXATA
3120 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MECCA
3120 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3100 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NAPLES
3060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
3060 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SIDON
3060 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRE
3040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3040 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TARSUS
3000 BC: ROMANS: 21 CITIES; 1,150,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans 
3000 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
3000 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ISSUS
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
2960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
2960 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CUNAXA
2940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
2920 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CREMONA
2900 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
2860 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CANNAE
2840 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
2820 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
2800 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
2780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
2760 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
2760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAPUA
2760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TURIN
2740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
2720 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
2720 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GENOA
2700 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
2660 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
2640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
2640 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF UTICA
2620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
2620 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CRETE
2620 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF DAMASCUS
2600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
2600 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF VERONA
2540 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SALAMIS
2500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
2500 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF LISBON
2480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
2460 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
2460 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
2460 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
2460 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF HAMBURG
2440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
2420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
2400 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PRAGUE
2360 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM
 

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2560 BC on my second try. Population 3,820,000, Score 258 (5%).

My first try was 2220 BC, score 441 (8%), but I normally play Emperor and I'd forgotten how to play Chieftain, so I wasted a lot of effort on unnecessary stuff like building temples and trying to uproot towns. :lol:

Spoiler :
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.......
.. . ... ........ . .. ... .
..... ........ ....... .. .. . . .
........... . ..... ...... . .....*Cunaxa.. ...
............. .... . ..... . .. ...................... .
..... .......... .... ... . ....*Seleucia.............
.......... . . .. . ....... ......................... ..*Genoa
.......... .... ...... ...*Byzantium.............. .
....... ......... .. ..*Mecca......................... ..
....... ... ..... .*Cyrene ...*Carthage.*Tarsus.......... .
................. . . ...................... .........
..... .. ..... . .. .............*Brundisium...........
..... +Berlin. . ...*Ravenna............*Antioch........
...... .... *Caesarea....*Nicopolis................. ..
............ .........*Palmyra..*Syracuse....*Turin...
............ .... ..*Rome .. ................... ...*Utica
.......... .*Tyre.. ...... ................... . .
. .... . . ........................*Capua
. ... . ..... ........................... .
... ........ .. ... ........................ .
... . .. .................. ......................
.... .. ............... ... ...................
.. ..............*Tyrus.. .............. .
. ................ ...... ..... *Jerusalem.
.. .... ................. .... ... .... ..
....... .............. ... .. ..*Gordion. ..
........ ....*Cannae... ... . .. .. .
......... ................... . *Artaxata
........... .... ...*Cremona... . ... *Issus
............. ......... ..*Naples ...... ...... .
............. ........... .. ...*Sidon ...
............ ........ . . ..
.......... .......... .. .
.......... ......... . ..
........ ........ .......
....... ......... .......
...... .......... . ...........
...... ........ . ..... ....
..... ....... . ..... +Babylo
... ........ .. ..... ....
.. ...... . ............
.. ..... ... ......
. .... .....
. . ..

. .. . . . . . .. . . .. .. ..
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4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3940 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ROME
3900 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAESAREA
3860 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3840 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST MILITIA
3840 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3840 BC: Germans discover Bronze Working
3780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
3760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CARTHAGE
3720 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NICOPOLIS
3700 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3700 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BYZANTIUM
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3680 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF BRUNDISIUM
3640 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SYRACUSE
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3600 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ANTIOCH
3580 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF PALMYRA
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3540 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CYRENE
3500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3460 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST DIPLOMAT
3440 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GORDION
3440 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3420 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
3380 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER DEMOCRACY
3380 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRUS
3380 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF JERUSALEM
3380 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SELEUCIA
3360 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF RAVENNA
3360 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ARTAXATA
3360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3360 BC: ROMANS FORM DEMOCRATIC
3360 BC: Germans produce first Phalanx
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MECCA
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF NAPLES
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF SIDON
3320 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TYRE
3300 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
3260 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3260 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TARSUS
3260 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF ISSUS
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3240 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CUNAXA
3220 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CREMONA
3200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
3180 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3160 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
3140 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CANNAE
3120 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
3120 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
3100 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
3060 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
3040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
3040 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RELIGION
3020 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
3000 BC: ROMANS: 25 CITIES; 1,100,000 POPULATION
*** 1:Romans 2:Babylonians 3:Germans
3000 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
3000 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
3000 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF CAPUA
2980 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF TURIN
2980 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
2960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
2960 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ATOMIC THEORY
2940 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
2940 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF GENOA
2920 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
2920 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF UTICA
2900 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
2880 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST TRANSPORT
2880 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
2860 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
2840 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
2840 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
2820 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
2800 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
2800 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEEL
2780 BC: ROMANS BUILD DARWIN'S VOYAGE
2780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
2780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
2780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
2780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
2760 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER AUTOMOBILE
2760 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASS PRODUCTION
2720 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
2720 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NUCLEAR FISSION
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
2680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GENETIC ENGINEERING
2640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
2620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
2620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSCRIPTION
2600 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM
2600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER HORSEBACK RIDING
 

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2560 BC on my second try. Population 3,820,000, Score 258 (5%).

My first try was 2220 BC, score 441 (8%), but I normally play Emperor and I'd forgotten how to play Chieftain...
...
Yeah, it would be better to have an own conquest-developed co-efficient out of earliest date, population, wonders ...
but this *earliest date* part was taken from the 2003 or 2004 arch-Space Quest in this forum, as far as i remember.

.

Thanks,
I did add your results to the score table. :goodjob:
 
Launched spaceship in 3100 BC. Arrived at 3080 BC.

Finished Space Flight in 3200 BC but had invested a bit too little into production, so used a couple of turns to get Apollo built. Should likely have taken another Tribe early on. I think it should be possible to shave another 5-8 turns of the time.

Total score of 82 with 15 citizens and 4 cities.

Replay:
Spoiler :
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..... .......... .... ... . ..........................
.......... . . .. . ....... ......................... ...
.......... .... ...... ...*Moscow................. .
....... ......... .*London...*Minsk.................... ..
....... ... ..... .. . .............................. .
................. . . ...................... .........
..... .. ..... . .. .............*Kiev.................
..... +Berlin. . ...... ................................
...... .... ................... .................... ..
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4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3840 BC: Babylonians discover Bronze Working
3780 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MINSK
3780 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF LONDON
3780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF KIEV
3740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3740 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MOSCOW
3680 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST TRIREME
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3680 BC: Germans produce first Militia
3660 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
3600 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
3580 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
3540 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3520 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
3500 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
3500 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
3500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
3380 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
3360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
3360 BC: Babylonians produce first Phalanx
3340 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
3220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
3220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
3200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
3140 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM
 

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Launched spaceship in 3100 BC. Arrived at 3080 BC.
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Total score of 82 with 15 citizens and 4 cities.

First: congratulations.
I did add your results to the score table. :goodjob:


2nd:
i have very few 'vision' / idea about it

'how you did this' -
how many tries you did need ...

... et cetera.


It would be nice to have some more ...words about it.

Interesting, how people always do ...astounishing things
when it already did look like things couldn't get better. ;)

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4000 BC: Babylonians found the city of Babylon
4000 BC: Germans found the city of Berlin
3840 BC: Babylonians discover Bronze Working
3780 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MINSK
3780 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF LONDON
3780 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ALPHABET
3760 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF KIEV
3740 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAPMAKING
3740 BC: ROMANS FOUND THE CITY OF MOSCOW
3680 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST TRIREME
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
3680 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER WRITING
3680 BC: Germans produce first Militia
3660 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER LITERACY
3640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE REPUBLIC
3640 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MASONRY
3620 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CURRENCY
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER TRADE
3600 BC: ROMANS FORM REPUBLIC
3600 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER IRON WORKING
3580 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CONSTRUCTION
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BRIDGE BUILDING
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MATHEMATICS
3560 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CEREMONIAL BURIAL
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MYSTICISM
3540 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ASTRONOMY
3540 BC: Babylonians discover Pottery
3520 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER NAVIGATION
3500 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CARAVAN
3500 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST SETTLERS
3500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHYSICS
3500 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE WHEEL
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ENGINEERING
3480 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INVENTION
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER STEAM ENGINE
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER RAILROAD
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MAGNETISM
3440 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER PHILOSOPHY
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER MEDICINE
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER UNIVERSITY
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER GUNPOWDER
3400 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CHEMISTRY
3380 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER METALLURGY
3360 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRICITY
3360 BC: Babylonians produce first Phalanx
3340 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER EXPLOSIVES
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ELECTRONICS
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMPUTERS
3320 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THEORY OF GRAVITY
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER BANKING
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER INDUSTRIALIZATION
3280 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER THE CORPORATION
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER REFINING
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER COMBUSTION
3240 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER FLIGHT
3220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ADVANCED FLIGHT
3220 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER ROCKETRY
3200 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER SPACE FLIGHT
3140 BC: ROMANS BUILD APOLLO PROGRAM

p.s.
added full replay.txt of humbe
 

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First: congratulations.
2nd:
i have very few 'vision' / idea about it

'how you did this' -
how many tries you did need ...

... et cetera.


It would be nice to have some more ...words about it.

Hmm.. Think you tagged wrong in your high score. Listed as 3020 BC when I launched in 3100 and populated AC 3080 BC.

I can share some info (taken from memory so bare with me if a number is a bit off)

I had one try (with some saving and loading, but no replaying of many turns). But planned ahead.

To win you need 44 technologies. As you don't have to build the space ship, you can skip 2 techs normally required for space ship. As you don't need to build the ship you need very few shields. 600 for apollo and 80 for structure. As initial palace is worth 200 gold and you start of with 50 gold, you need only 555 shields to complete, minus 1 shield for every 2 gold you get.

The quickest way to get techs is through huts. With enough cavalry you will get techs from huts so fast that you will never manage to finish researching a single tech, so keep 100% tax all along. That means you get quite a bit of cash, lowering the number of shields you need even more.

The starting continent has 47 huts. To get 44 techs from it, leaves you only 3 huts to get cavalry and tribes. You can get to all of those with 3 cavalry in decent
time but that leaves no hut left for tribe, and you want a few cities. Thus, it is likely optimal to boat to America to have plenty of huts available. You can get tribe in north end of Britain, and with 50 gold stored from start, you can pretty quickly finish a trireme so you can get to North America with a cavalry unit. Just bear in mind that you might not want that city to be your first, as most of your cities will likely be elsewhere, so you may want to opt for most cities being close to capitol to reduce corruption.

Including America, you can get plenty of cavalry and tribes to speed things along. I went for 5 cavalry to be able to get to ~60 huts in ~40 turns. I went for only 3 tribes including Britain one to get to America, thinking it was likely enough shields/tax to finish when I had enough huts to get all the techs, but think I should have picked one more as I had all the techs a bit before I was ready. (But got ready fast getting a few huts for 50 gold each after I had the techs)

All the cities had forest with game for decent production/growth to start with. You don't have time to grow them much at all. (Apart from Britain city, which have ocean squares to create tax to buy production in other cities instead of producing itself after the initial trireme)

First trick. You can only get units from huts if hut is close to a city. If that city is yours, that city ends up as the units home city and you pay support. If that city is an enemy city, the unit has no upkeep. In this game, you won't get close to enemy cities for a long while, so you'll have trouble getting units from huts, but there's a kink. Prior to building your first city, you can still get units. Thus, the optimal first move is to get cavalry from first hut, and then keep delaying building initial city until you have enough cavalry.

Second trick. Rather than load/saving a lot to create wanted hut output, I took advantage of random generator being reseeded on city view so I could easier get what I want from the huts.

Game thus ended up as:
- Get 5 cavalry from first 5 huts gotten.
- Found capitol, and 3 tribes on three next huts.
- Get MapMaking on one of the first huts after that.
- Buy trireme in north of britain as soon as we have built enough to afford it. (Buying barracks and changing back of course)
- Ship one cavalry to North America and disband trireme to allow republic without unhappiness.
- Tech to Republic after MapMaking to get extra trade for extra cash to buy stuff. Switch to republic with save/load trick to do it instantly on turn valid for change.
- Prioritize teching trade from hut, so cities can be turned to produce caravans to store production for apollo and SS structure.
- Get only the 44 required techs from the huts, after the initial 5 cavalry and 3 tribes. (I wasted one hut to get theory of gravity, as I got tired of figuring out how to roll banking without it, so I wasted one hut.)
- I built one settler as soon as first city got to size 2 to road between cities. At the time cities got to size 2, I was almost at RailRoads. Railed a couple of game squares and roaded a bit for late caravans to be able to move faster.
- Use money to buy barracks and when switch back to caravans, to be able to turn 2 gold into one hammer.
- Build apollo and SS structure with caravans ASAP after getting all techs from huts. (Use 200 gold from palace as late as possible to avoid corruption losing you money)

Possible improvements:
- You need very little production to finish this, but I opted for a tad little, so I needed a few huts for gold and a few turns extra afterwards to get spaceship launched. One more tribe would probably have been good. Likely better to not have used initial settler to build city but just use tribes, so I had better time to road.
- I wasted one tech from huts. Could possibly have saved a turn without it, though maybe not as I reached several huts each turn late game.

Had one corruption in Britain city due to distance to capitol. Could have wasted a tech for Democracy, but as I finished the game in less than 50 turns, I got more gold from popping a hut for 50 gold instead. As this is on Chieftain, happiness is not an issue, so normal detours as Religion and Genetic Engineering is not needed. As we only got techs from huts though, added tech cost from emperor difficulty wouldn't have mattered, and as cities only got to size 3 late game, I don't think game would have been much slower on Emperor.
 
Sounds like you want to make a new version without huts to prevent hut strategy. It is a bit silly that the optimal strategy is just to pop the correct huts and then you're done, so I kind of agree. Additionally, it's cumbersome to get what you want from huts. :)

However, why is difficulty set to chieftain and space ship already built? Without huts, the game will be just about how to get the maximum trade the fastest. Sounds like dealing with happiness, techs that are more expensive to research, and needing more production would all add some dimensions to the game.
 
Sounds like you want to make a new version without huts to prevent hut strategy. It is a bit silly that the optimal strategy is just to pop the correct huts and then you're done ...
Yeah, the next (better) result in this conquest here
would just be a type of
'hud visitation - save game: try & error - optimization'.

Arguments for a Version_4 "without huds"
are
¹ that the game would run ...'longer', again, and not ending 3000BC (with 100s of saves and reloads)
so
² the optimized development of sciences, the attraction of city buildings and wonders,
the planning of the surrounding city areas' infrastructure becomes more important (again).

As intended, originally.
 
Took a quick test with the save without huts DarkPanda supplied. Finished 1440 BC. Plenty room for improvement, but a finish within 2000 BC sounds rough. Turns are flying by early to get the first cities up and running. Wanted to see ballpark what time it took, to be able to know a bit about how far to expand.

Edit: Eager beaver here. Doing a bit of more serious attempt from DarkPanda's save. Just passed 2500 BC here, 4-5 techs away from RailRoad, 8-9 cities, no buildings yet. Don't think I'll make it within 2000 BC but will see. To me it sounds like due to tech cost improvements on Chieftain and easy happiness handling, that it'll likely be very few buildings to build in the optimal strategy. Though, there might be some trick unknown to me that will make buildings more attractive. If you want more city buildings I think a harder difficulty would make the game run longer and buildings are likely to pay of more. On the other hand, if you don't alter anything after removing huts, I may have an early run for v4 :D

Edit again: Finished save altered by DarkPanda. Launched in 1620 BC and colonized Alpha Centauri in 1600 BC. Probably some turns that can be shaved of using same strategy, optimizing a bit more to avoid lost research to get some cash to buy a few builds a bit earlier, but think I played fairly well to get the 1620 launch. Still didn't build much apart from settlers and caravans. J.S.Bach, SETI, Darwin, Apollo, SS Structure and a few temples and one aqueduct. Aqueduct was a waste. Oracle instead of J.S.Bach and a few more temples and not getting Religion might have been better. Maybe some mid game libraries instead of settlers could have speed things along too. A bit too easy to start developing more tiles than strictly needed.
 
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