pre-snekIOT

2. Bilyar, because it's kinda Bolghar, but not really, sort of a horde... I see some potential in this state, but I really don't quite get what it's shaped of, to be honest

Sorry if I didn't explain it clear enough - in short I envisioned it as a Volga Bulgaria brought forward a few centuries, and having expanded into a north/west that is mostly Slavic Christian plus and a south that was once (Turkic) horde territory but is not any longer.

Choice Preferences:

1. The Greek Republic
2. The Greek Republic
3. Champa
4. Karnataka
5. Damascus

Hey, welcome back!
 
(I want to do something but don't have the energy to do a large section right now so here's a mini-thing for y'all)

Constantinople, like much of the rest of Greece, passed between masters for some time. First were the Bulgarians; then, a Byzantine remnant took Constantinople back; then, the city fell into the hands of Crusaders, until about 1350, when a group of local Greek mercenaries drove the Crusaders out and installed one of their own as ruler. By this time, Constantinople had declined to be little more than perhaps the most significant number of Greek-speaking, Christian petty states in northern and western Anatolia. To protect themselves against outsiders - namely, the Neo-Abbasids who rampaged into Anatolia in the 15th century, these solidified into a loosely aligned Pontic League, which eventually. And for over a century, this succeeded, and the Pontic states thrived. But then a new Anatolian state came, which had the capability of reaching further than the Neo-Abbasids ever had, and the during the later 17th century the League was militarily defeated. Now, reduced to little more than Constantinople, Abydos, Nicaea, and Trebizond, the League's very survival is at stake.

Neighbouring Anatolia is a state whose unique culture combines Islamic and Hellenic traditions, which began when the original Abbasids conquered Anatolia following the Bulgarian capture of Constantinople and managed to convert much of the local population; the southern city of Tarsus became a cultural centre and the hub of Anatolian culture. Eventually, however, the region fell under Neo-Abbasid control. The current incarnation of Anatolia was born in the early 17th century when a new dynasty declared independence. Anatolia has gone nowhere but up since then, expanding from just the area surrounding Tarsus to encompassing most of Asia Minor, inflicting military defeats on both the Pontic League and Armenia.

Armenia is the product of the early 17th century, when, amidst a period of Persian weakness, one particularly militarily adept Armenian king - who will perhaps go down in history as the last great Asian conqueror - led a series of conquests on the surrounding Muslim lands which saw Armenia's territory greatly increase to cover much of the Caucasus and Eastern Anatolia. The Armenians even entered northern Iraq, handed the Neo-Abbasids a military defeat they have still yet to recover from, and installed a Syriac patriarch as ruler of Mosul. The next few decades saw Armenia consolidate and solidify her position as a power in the region. But despite this, Armenia has seen her position steadily erode away with the expansion of Anatolia, the rise of Persian influence, and bubbling general unrest from a largely Muslim population which has never truly been integrated. Now, a century after her birth, Armenia stands at a tipping point.
 
Right, unfortunately due to finals-related stuff I'm going to be unable to do anything with this until at least Tuesday (the 16th), sorry.
 
It is understandable.
Good luck with your finals!
 
Islam was first brought to the region by the Almoravids, a Berber Sunni militant group, in the 11th century. Records of the time are sparse, but it is known that the Almoravids swept into the region from the north - reportedly after being exiled from their homeland - and rapidly conquered the traditionally strong Ghana Empire. Establishing their capital at the trade nexus of Gao, the Almoravids would rule the Sahel with varying degrees of control for the better part of two centuries. They brought Islam, and tried to enforce orthodoxy, but what generally resulted instead was a fusion of Islam with local traditions - just as in places like Rus and Hibracia - in a manner that would make a cleric from Baghdad or Fustat angered.

After the end of Almoravid rule, followed by about a century of division, the state of Wagadugu would rise to hegemony, building a militarily powerful and extremely wealthy empire founded on gold and trade. But Wagudugu did not last forever, either, and in the first half of the 17th century splintered apart.

It was in this atmosphere of division that the time was ripe for an outside force to once again enter. This came in the form of the Tuareg clan of Aïr, based in the trade town of Agadez. Uniting several of the neighbouring clans into one fearsome force through a combination of diplomacy and conquest around 1700, the warrior-queen of Air was able to rush into the Sahel from the northeast and establish herself as the dominant power in the region, subjugating the Mandé and Gur states with frightening ease. From this conquest, Agadez has boomed into a bustling metropolis. But whether Air can hold its conquests together has yet to be seen, and it seems to only be the power of the queen holding it together.

The Fulani state of Denanke in the west, already having been the most powerful state of [the Senegal area] as early as the mid-17th century, has managed to escape Air's control, perhaps thanks to sheer distance from Agadez, and the fact that Air is already fragile as it is. Denanke has cultivated a close trading relationship with the Maghribis, with Maghribi merchants and envoys frequently seen in her ports to the virtual exclusion of other Europeans, and Maghrebi weaponry and military organisation starting to be used.

To the south, the Yoruba Oyo Empire grew from the kingdom of Dahomey, which expanded, as the country's army began to utilise modern European weaponry, brought in by mostly Breton traders, into the coast's predominant power. The West African flavour of Islam is, again predominent here.

A number of European countries - namely, Albion, Francia, and Brittany - have established trading posts on the coast, mostly meant to facilitate the transatlantic slave trade. In addition, while lacking any solid territorial control in the interior, the Maghribis do have close contact with the Sahel through the trans-Sahara trade routes and thus wield a not insignificant amount of influence in the interior.
 
new religion map:

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1. Egypt
2. Meskwaki Sultanate
3. Myanmar
4. Air

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Would also be interested in hearing if any of the Indian states, if any, have European level Naval strength
 
Right now, none are truly equal to the Europeans per se, though Bihar, Thanjavur, and especially Karnataka definitely have the potential to be able to match them if they work at it.

Alright, so for that matter: I fly home for break on Friday evening/Saturday morning. After that I'll get the rest of the backgrounds done, hopefully this weekend, then assign countries for certain after that. I don't want to start the game over Christmas so I'll probably work on the stats through then, and launch sometime in early January. If that's alright with everyone?
 
The great Khitan expansion of the 12th century not only ended the Song dynasty in China, but pushed the Jurchens out of their Manchurian homeland and into Korea in a large-scale migration. In turn, a large number of Koreans fled across the sea to Southern Japan.

These migrations were indicative of a larger trend in Japan over a chaotic few centuries, with central authority reduced to its nadir, little more than weak control over a small region from Kansai to Kanto. At the same time, the rise of Okinawan maritime kingdoms saw parts of Southern Japan brought under their rule, and the Ainu launched incursions into Tohoku. These foreign incursions saw large swathes of Japan turn into an ethnic melting pot.

But slowly, central authority did return, and all Japan had been reunited by 1400 under the Nakatomi clan, closely intertwined with the Emperors. This period of powerful central rule, between the 14th and 17th centuries, saw Japanese cultural influence reach new heights, creating an entirely new identity that displaced the general Sinicisation in place beforehand. Literary Japanese slowly displaced foreign languages as official languages throughout the entire region, even in Jurchen Korea - which despite never coming under Kyoto's rule, also fell under Japanising influences, helped by the foreign weakeness of China during the later Liao and early Cai dynasties.

But this period, too, came to an end during the 17th century, as Nakatomi rule weakened, before finally coming to a crashing halt with a coup from another clan in 1640. Following this, control loosened into the outer regions being little more than other states in a common orbit.

Now, the Yamato court's ruling clan and the figurehead Emperor, ostensibly claim authority over the entire archipelago. To a degree, the other states in the Japanese orbit follow Kyoto, and Kyoto is a source of legitimacy and authority, especially with Kyoto still being the intellectual centre of all East Asia. But this is entirely very selective, and just as often do the other states defy Kyoto. Nonetheless, in this game, Yamato still has a bounty of cards to play.

Kumajima in the south has emerged as a strong naval power, having consolidated control over parts of southern Korea, and expanded across the sea to conquer the Ryukyu islands and even parts further south. The Kumajima court in Kagoshima is, thanks to trade with Europeans and Arabs, by some measures even wealthier than Kyoto, which has helped mark it as a counterpole to the Yamato court, whose edicts the prefects (this is still their title) in Kagoshima feels particularly capable of disregarding. On the flipside, this has meant an increasing amount of Christians and Muslims inhabiting Kumajima's ports. Still, Kumajima has also taken on many Zen Buddhist trappings.

To the north, the prefecture of Michinoku is perhaps the state closest to Kyoto. Michinoku can perhaps be taken to be a particularly autonomous region under the nominal authority of the Yamato court. Despite this, the prefects in Morioka still wield great military strength, and many fear that they may attempt to use it against the Yamato court in this period of great disunity.

The Japanised, largely Buddhistised Ainu kingdom of Ezo asserted its independence from Kyoto in the 17th century as the Nakatomi bakufu crumbled. Ezo would very much like to retain that independence, though in this environment that may be more difficult than she would like.

The kingdom of Jusen in the Korean peninsula is currently in its second long-lasting incarnation. After the crumbling of the original Jurchen kingdom in the late 15th century into a number of warring petty states; it was only after the crumbling of Nakatomi rule in Japan more than a century and a half later that Jusen was reunited around [Hanseong/Seoul]. Today, Jusen is a state growing in power, and, thanks to blossoming trade with Europeans and Arabs, wealth; but she faces threats from both rival Kumajima to the south - whom Jusen has never been able to remove from the coast - and the ever-present Jalairid menace to the north.
 
Butbutbut.... muh Jurchens :(
 
The (Shi'ite) Fatimid Caliphate's failed campaign to take Egypt from the Abbasids in the 10th century would prove the defining event in North African history for centuries to come. The Fatimids were fated to essentially holding the Maghrib, but that did not detract them from being powerful in their own right. In fact, at their zenith - in the late 11th century - the Fatimids controlled virtually the entire Islamic world west of Libya, including al-Andalus, ruling as caliphs from their grand capital at the outskirts of Qirwan, a city which would become the world centre of Shi'ite learning. This was instrumental in Shi'a Islam becoming predominant in the Maghrib, and, to a lesser extent, al-Andalus as well.

Several dynastic cycles later, in the 16th century, the line of Shi'ite caliphs continued. One of the Fatimid descendants having married the chieftain of one Berber tribe, this tribe led a successful revolt from the Saharan ksours. This new state in the Maghrib arose rapidly to become a major power. Across the strait of Gibraltar, by 1600 Maghrib had gained control of Granada, and later in the century with Catalan assistance had crushed Leon and gained control over much of the former al-Andalus. From there, Maghrib looked abroad, building up the beginnings of a trade and colonial sphere rivaling the European powers. Fas has become a city grander than any in Europe. More recently, Maghrib has started to develop something of a Berber-influenced national cultural identity distinct from the Arab one.

Ifriqiya and her sultans were once, centuries ago, one of the dominant Mediterranean trading powers, competing with and often outcompeting the Italian city-states. But that was centuries ago, before the rise of Maghrib in the west and Egypt in the east, and the discovery of the New World, ended that. The descendants still maintain a kingdom, centred on Qirwan, still the centre of Shi'ite learning in the world. Ifriqiya still has a proud navy, and perhaps, Qirwan might be able to rise once again.

The present-day kingdom of Nubia is the product of Fur migrations eastwards from the Sahara in the 15th and 16th centuries. Relations with the neighbouring Egyptians were once cordial thanks to a superficially shared religion, but have significantly soured since then. In any case, the ruling Fur have largely become acculturised to local Nubian traditions, using their authority to firmly establish Coptic Christianity as the faith of state and region's predominant religion.

Ethiopia is an ancient state, having perservered through centuries. The last few centuries had seen central authority break apart into a powerless emperor attempting to lord over a number of warring clans. But in the past half-century, a new, strong, centralised Ehtiopian state has emerged centred on the city of Gonder. Still, there are plenty of strong internal warlords who the state must carefully balance if it wishes to stay together, and raids by Somali Muslim tribes from the east are a constant threat.
 
The Song dynasty came to an end in the 12th century when it was overrun by the Khitans from the north. Though there were a chaotic several years which followed, before long, in Song's stead, the Khitans had established the Liao dynasty, which would preside over one of the greatest cultural golden ages in China's history. It did not last forever, of course; Liao would in the late 15th century crumble and by the early 16th century be replaced by the native Cai dynasty. Cai would never reach the heights of its predecessors, and in later days would come to be regarded as weak and ineffectual. In any case, the early-to-mid-17th century would see Cai brought to its knees by rebellion after rebellion, and by 1650 a new period of disunity had begun.

Seven decades later, that period might finally be at an end. One king from Henan has, through a decade-long-series of military campaigns united much of China under him, and claimed himself the emperor under the aegis of a new dynasty: Xing ("star"), centred in Luoyang.

Perhaps the most prominent of the states there is Nanyue, or in their language, Vietnam. The rather Sinicised Vietnamese had controlled parts of southern China before in their history, most recently during the early Liao period, but never to the scale seen when the Vietnamese kings conquered a large swathe of Southern China in the mid-17th century and established themselves as the predominant military power in the local area. But more recently, Vietnam has lost territory in the south, thanks to a number of recent wars with Champa; and while Vietnam is certainly still a power to be reckoned with, that is increasingly coming into question.

The other states in the region are all states which broke away from Cai during its decline, and have retained that independence ever since, from both the Vietnamese and more recently Xing. The kingdom of Yue is perhaps the most naval-oriented of these; its naval tradition is second only to Kumajima in East Asia, and the kings and administrators of Yue have cultivated relatively close relations with traders and foreigners from the west - Brittany in particular - as well as with Kumajima.

The kingdom of Miao is a state originally founded supposedly with the aid of a circle of warrior monks - a circle that, some say, still guards the kingdom to this day. Legends aside, Miao has emerged as a relatively strong land power which has successfully utilised this to stay independent in a position where it would otherwise not be.

Dali is a reincarnation of an older state in Sichuan which had been conquered by Liao in the 13th century, and had remained under Liao and Cai control through the next few centuries. One Ba-Shu imperial bureaucrat-turned-warlord refounded the state in the early 17th century as Cai declined, and, geographically somewhat remote from the rest of China, it has remained rather isolated and peaceful ever since then.

And in the north, threatening the entire region and more, lies the Jalairid Khanate. The Jalairs are a Mongol tribe who moved south about a century and a half ago, breaking the previous hegemony of the Borjigin and establishing their own Jalairid supremacy over the region. Under one khan between about 1680 and 1710, the Jalairs expanded rapidly, with the aid of advanced gunpowder weaponry never before seen on the steppes, to conquer a vast territory stretching from the Jusen border all the way west to the Tarim Basin. While the Jalairs are strong, their internal divisions are vast - only brute strength has glued the vast realm together, and only brute strength is necessary to continue doing so.
 
For centuries the western frontier of the Abbasids, Egypt would be conquered by Italian Crusaders in the 12th century. Ruling at first from Alexandria, the Catholic rulers by the sheer necessity of ruling a predominantly Muslim and Coptic populace had to adopt some measures of tolerance, laying the groundwork for the pluralistic and multicultural Egypt of today. Following a brief century-long interregnum in the 15th century when this original Kingdom of Egypt collapsed, a Greco-Italian conqueror named entered the region from the north. Starting from Alexandria, using a combination of military force and local alliances, he reunited Egypt. He would establish his capital at Fustat, beginning the process of transforming it from a dusty old town which had seen better days into the great metropolis it is today.

Egypt would centralise, and its rulers would gradually Arabise, marrying local nobles. By the end of the 16th century it began to expand its influence abroad, turning it into the power it is today. Religiously, at first, Egypt operated under an independent "Church of Alexandria" independent from the main organisation then in Rome, but even this was abandoned by the mid-17th century in emulation of the Persian experiment. Recently, Egypt has began looking abroad, too, becoming a naval power as well; the Egyptians have sought to enter the Indian Ocean trade zone with force, establishing their rule over Yemen as well as gaining the Indian port city of Surat.

The emirs of Damascus were at first Neo-Abbasid governors of Syria, before they asserted their independence in the early 17th century as the Neo-Abbasids crumbled. Having successfully fended off the Armenian menace, the Damascene emirs soon entered the Egyptian sphere of influence, accepting status as a de facto Egyptian protectorate. Damascus is wealthy and prosperous under the Egyptian umbrella, and thus far, everyone involved much prefers to keep it that way.

When the Armenians invaded Northern Iraq a century ago, they killed the Neo-Abbasid governor in Mosul and, in his stead, installed the patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church. What resulted was the creation of an independent Assyria, dominated by Assyrian Christians who had been second-class citizens in the Muslim world for centuries. This state has, somewhat miraculously, continued to survive since then, if currently under the aegis of the Egyptian sphere of influence to combat the rising power of Persia. But the Assyrians have great hopes for the future, and the fact that they were the world's greatest empire two and a half millennia ago has not been lost on them.

We come to the Abbasid Caliphate, or as some prefer to distinguish this incarnation from the last, the Neo-Abbasid Caliphate. After a chaotic 13th century amidst the peak of the Crusades, when Baghdad had fallen under the rule of ghuliman slave warriors who had - thus largely ending that practise in the Islamic world - a descendant of the original Abbasid line led a revolt that re-established the Caliphate. For a time, this Neo-Abbasid Caliphate was strong; but the rise of Armenia and then Persia in the 17th century brought the Caliphs to their knees. A polity that can seriously claim to have once dominated the Islamic world, ruling from the Maghrib to India, is now reduced to Lower Iraq under the Persian shadow in a Middle East where secularism and pluralism have become vogue, where Sunni orthodoxy is crumbling in the face of scores of new and esoteric movements, and Baghdad has long ago been eclipsed by half a dozen other cities as a centre of learning.

In the Islamic holy land, the sharifs of Hijaz continue their long rule, with little responsibility and power other than to protect and watch over the pilgrims. Recently, however, with the perceived decline in religiousness across the Muslim world and especially in Egypt and Persia, the Hijazi sharifs have begun to flirt with an increasingly fundamentalist, purist school of Sunni Islam. While all is still peaceful, the rifts between here and the rest of the Muslim world are becoming increasingly apparent, and the future is looking increasingly uncertain.

The predominantly Ibadi sultanate of Oman is a minor naval and trade power along the Indian Ocean shores. Oman is relatively out of the way as far the Middle East goes, at times - such as now - having fallen under some degree of Persian influence. Today, Oman is seeking to expand its influence into the Indian Ocean, having successfully established control over Mogadishu on the Somali coast.

Persia by all rights should have been majority Muslim centuries ago. But what threw a wrench into that was the rise of a general named Mardavij in the 10th century, who was successful in his dream of recreating a Zoroastrian state over much of the region, though not in his dreams of reconquering Mesopotamia and Ctesiphon and recreating the old Sassanid realm. Over the next seven centuries, Persia would alternate between periods of unity and disunity, between Muslim and Zoroastrian dynasties, interrupted only briefly by the outside Kara-Khanids in the late 11th century. All this culminated in a period of extremely bloody religiously-motivated warfare in the late 16th century, killing off nearly a third of Persia's population in the process.

When the dust settled, the new rulers of Persia decided that this was not a tenable situation any longer. They detached themselves from public religion entirely, thus creating one of the core tenets of the present Persian state. And they focused on rebuilding, such that the country had recovered in less than a half-century. From there, Isfahan could look outwards again, and Persia has begun clashing in influence with Egypt over the petty states of the Mashriq.

Ferghana is a Persianate emirate that was established in the 15th century, initially by a Muslim Uyghur who conquered the Ferghana valley and declared himself Emir of Andijan. After some time, Andijan became predominant in Central Asia. But now, it lies firmly in the Persian sphere of influence, and the emirs increasingly fear that Persia might just finish the task and incorporate the whole thing. Ferghana is nonetheless wealthy and militarily powerful enough that it can fend off Persian incursion.

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Alright, as far as I can tell that's all the backgrounds! I'll assign polities for certain sometime in the next few days.
 
Abdalid Empire: Red_Spy
Albion: thomas.berubeg
Bihar: christopher_sni
Bilyar: Grandkhan
Brittany: Robert Can't
Bulgaria: Tolni
Catalonia: ...JohannaK? :p
Egypt: <nuke>
Francia: Omega124
Galicia: Tyo
Greece: Polyblank
Italy: Seon
Jalairid Khanate: Zappericus
Jusen: Bair_the_Normal
Kumajima: Immaculate
Maghrib: Terran Empress
Meskwaki: Decamper
Minsk: Ahigin
Nuevo Leon: Azale
Persia: Shadowbound
Pontic League: Arrow Gamer
Scandinavia: Angst
Scotland: Civ'ed
Sigurdia: Mosher
Sunda: Reus
Vietnam: ChiefDesigner
Xing: christos200
Yamato: Justo

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The very good news is that everyone got one of their choices. Unfortunately the overlap for some countries was to such a degree that some people were given fourth or fifth choices. I apologise if you're one of those people; there was just nothing I could do.

If you want to switch, or if you're just coming in and want to join, just feel free to take an open country without making a list. Some reasonably powerful countries that I feel could still use players are: Ifriqiya, Anatolia, Armenia, Karnataka, Myanmar, Jusen. But again, I'm more than happy to give further information or have players on any of the remaining countries, no matter how (in)significant they may seem

So what happens now? My next job will be making all the stats. Depending on what happens I estimate this will take approximately a week or so. I am legitimately doing nothing over the holidays so yay loads of free time! At the very latest I'll be able to launch the actual game thread by the new year.

Feel free to give names (if applicable) to your capital city, your monarch/dynasty, your colonies, etc; I do have defaults in mind, but I would love to hear your input, and in fact your input will help me a lot. I'm not terribly hung up on any of the names.

edit: I'll continue updating this post
 
Bilyar best Turk.

If I could find where the capital is on a map that would be better Turk.
 
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There have been a couple of very minor edits and colour changes, so consider this the current official map instead of the one on the front page.
 
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