Term 1 - Judiciary

DaveShack

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Welcome to the Civ4 DemoGame Judiciary for Term 1.

Chief Justice: DaveShack
Public Defender: Ravensfire
Judge Advocate: donsig

The Laws of [insert nation name]:
Link to Constitution
Link to CoL part 1 CoL part 2

Current Status: Open for business.
 
Common Rights and Duties of all Citizens
  • Participate in all Judicial discussions
  • Request that any Judicial discussion be moved to its own thread in the Citizen's forum
  • Post requests for Judicial Review of existing law. These requests should contain a specific question and the section of law in question
  • Post requests for Judicial Review of proposed amendments. This request should contain the exact text to be reviewed and a link to the discussion thread
  • Post requests for clarification. This is an unofficial question about the rules that does not create a finding, but may lead to a Judicial Review
  • Post requests for Citizen Complaints. This is a request to determine if a citizen has violated a rule. This request must be posted in the Judicial thread. There are no anonymous requests.
Shared duties and responsibilities of all Justices
  • Conduct the business of the court in a fair, impartial, open and speedy manner
  • Review and discuss any questions about our laws
  • Review all proposed Amendments to our laws
  • Review all requested Citizen Complaints to determine if the charge has merit
  • Participate in all Citizen Complaints in a fair and impartial manner
  • Post clear and decisive opinions on all questions. Abstentions are not allowed
  • Notify the Judiciary during any Absence, and arrange for a Pro-Tem replacement
  • Discuss and ratify these Judicial Procedures
  • Recuse themself from any Citizen Complaints that they are involved in as either the citizen requesting the CC, or as the citizen under investigation.
Rights and Duties of the Chief Justice
  • Post polls for amendments once they pass review
  • Post any valid Recall poll
  • Oversee all Judicial Proceedings
  • Maintain the Judicial Log
  • Appoint all Pro-Tem justices and seek confirmation by the President
  • Request that other justices post an opinion promptly
  • Maintain the docket and decide the priority level of cases
Rights and Duties of the Judge Advocate
  • Serve as the Prosecution during any trial of a citizen. In this role, the Judge Advocate need not act impartial as they are arguing for a specific side
  • Post polls for amendments and recalls
Rights and Duties of the Public Defender
  • Serve as the Defense during a trial of a citizen, unless requested otherwise by the citizen. In this role, the Public Defender need not act impartial as they are arguing for a specific side
  • Post polls for amendments and recalls
Changes to Judicial Procedures
The Judicial Procedures may be changed at any time by a majority decision of the court.

Judicial Reviews
Judicial Reviews are used to resolve questions of the law and to validate proposed amendments. The opinion of a majority of the Justices will be used to resolve the Judicial Review.

Reviews of existing laws may be requested by anyone. The Chief Justice shall review each request for merit. If the Chief Justice declines the request, either of the other two Justices may accept the request and override the Chief Justice. The Chief Justice will post each accepted request, clearly denoting the questions. After at least 24 hours, each Justice may post their finding. This post should clearly answer the questions as posed by the Chief Justice. The Chief Justice may request that the justices post their opinion promptly, requiring all justices to make a ruling within 72 hours. The Chief Justice may request clarification of these findings as needed.

Reviews of a proposed law may be requested by anyone. The post must include the proposed law, and a link to the discussion thread. The proposed law must have been conspicuously posted as a proposed poll for at least 24 hours, and the discussion thread open for at least 48 hours. The Justices will review the law for any conflicts with current law, and post their findings. Any Justice may post the poll for all proposals that pass Judicial Review.

All reviews must be finished by the end of the term if at all possible. The Chief Justice may defer a Judicial Review to the next term if it is filed less than 72 hours before the end of this term.

Absence Investigations
Absence Investigations are used to determine the status of an elected official who has not posted for an extended period of time and to remove that citizen from office if necessary. Any citizen may initiate an Absence Investigation if an elected official fails to post on the Civilization Fanatics' Forums for 7 days.

If a valid Absence Investigation is called, the Chief Justice is to start the investigation by indicating that an Absence Investigation has started. The Chief Justice must then send a private message to the official against whom the investigation has been called. An e-mail should also be sent if possible. The official will have 48 hours to respond to the private message. At the end of this time, or after a response has been received by the official in question, the Chief Justice may declare the commencement of voting on whether or not the seat should be rendered vacant. Each justice should clearly post their vote on this issue. If a majority of justices vote in favor of declaring the office vacant, the official shall be removed and the President empowered to appoint another citizen to that post.

Citizen Complaints
Citizen complaints are used to determine if a citizen has violated a rule. They may be requested by any citizen in a post in the Judicial thread. Except as noted, the Justices must act in a fair, impartial, open and speedy manner throughout the process. All citizens are innocent unless determined to be guilty. Citizen Complaints shall be completed by the end of the term, unless the Judiciary finds this to be impossible, in which case the next term’s court may finish the investigation. All evidence, except foreknowledge of the game, must be presented publicly. Evidence of foreknowledge of the game will be reviewed by the Judiciary, and a statement about that evidence posted. Once that evidence becomes irrelevant due to game progress, any citizen may request it to be posted.

Any citizen who is the defendant of a Citizen Complaint shall have the right to representation throughout the process. The Public Defender shall be tasked with defending each citizen charged with an offense from the moment the Citizen Complaint is filed until the complaint is concluded, unless another citizen is appointed by the defendant to serve as the Defense, with that citizen's consent.

At any time during a citizen complaint, the citizen making the request may drop the request, ending the citizen complaint unless another citizen wishes to continue the process. Likewise, the citizen under investigation may accept the charges, and move immediately to the Sentencing phase.

If a citizen has been found innocent of a charge or if the citizen has been found guilty and sentenced appropriately, the citizen may not be charged again with the same violation.

Review
Each requested Citizen Complaint will be reviewed by the Judiciary. Justices will gather and look through the evidence presented, including requests for statements from all citizens. If all three Justices determine the request to have No Merit, the basis for that finding will be posted by each Justice and the request is denied. If at least one Justice determines the request to have Merit, a trial on the facts will be conducted. The Judge Advocate will review the request and the relevant law, and determine the specific law the accused citizen is alleged to have violated.

Trial
The Judge Advocate will create a thread for the trial in the Citizen's forum. This initial post should contain the specific violations and the evidence for those accusations. The next two posts are reserved for the citizen accused and the Public Defender - until they post, or 24 hours from the initial post, no other citizen may post in the thread. All citizens are encouraged to post in this thread, but are reminded to respect the rights of all citizens.

Once the at least 48 hours have passed, and discussion has petered out, the Chief Justice can declare the discussion closed, and post a Trial poll.

The Trial poll will be a private poll, with the options Innocent, Guilty and Abstain. It will run for 48 hours. The option receiving the most votes will determine the result. In the event of a tie, the members of the Judiciary will determine the result by posting clear opinions in the Trial thread.

Sentencing
If a citizen under investigation during a Citizen Complaint has accepted the charges, the citizen, the accuser and the Judiciary may determine and assign a sentence if they all unanimously agree to the arrangement. Failure to uphold that arrangement will result in full sentencing poll posted as if the citizen were found guilty in a Trial.

If an arrangement cannot be made, or the citizen was found Guilty, the sentence will be determined by the citizens through a poll. The Chief Justice will post the poll, marked as private with a duration of 48 hours. The options for the poll will include:
  • Suspension from Demogame
  • Removal from Office (if applicable)
  • Public Apology
  • Final Warning
  • Warning
  • Abstain
Other options may be included through unanimous consent of the Judiciary.

Once the poll closes, the Chief Justice will determine the sentence imposed using cumulative voting. The most severe option that a majority of citizens support will be imposed. If a Warning is issued, a warning will be posted by the Chief Justice in the Judicial thread and may be reposted in that person’s government thread, if they hold an office. If a citizen is given a Final Warning, the above procedure will be used, but with stronger language. Additionally, the options “Warning” and “Final Warning” will not appear on a sentencing poll if that citizen is charged with a similar offense in the future. If a citizen is sentenced to a Public Apology, a thread apologizing for the actions taken must be posted by the defendant within 48 hours of the close of the sentencing poll. If the citizen is removed from office, they are barred from holding that office for the remainder of the term. The length of a suspension is to be determined by the Judiciary, with the required consent of the moderators.
 
C4DG1JR1 - Determining the validity of the Code of Laws ratification

C4DG1JR2 - Review of an amendment providing for the impeachment of Governors.
Link to request
Link to decision

C4DG1JR3 - Does impeachment of the triumvirate have to remove all members?

Link to request
Link to decision

C4DG1JR4 - May a citizen hold multiple offices?

Link to request
Link to decision

C4DG1JR5 - Proposed amendment on multiple offices and filling vacancies

Link to thread containing mock poll
Link to decision
 
Absense Investigation, Alphawolf (President)
Link to request
Link to ruling

Absense Investigation C4DG1AI2, Aythaneous (Minister of the Interior)
Link to request
Link to ruling
 
congratulations on your election DS, or should I say Mr.Chief Justice:cool: I look forward to serving under you again, hopefully this term will be more eventful then the last time you where CJ

-mhcarver
Office of the Judge Advocate
 
For our judicial procedures, I've decided to start off by shamelessly copying the Civ3 demogame procedures, which have served us well for the last 10 terms or so with little or no changes. :cool:

I have not reviewed these proposed procedures in full, nor have I checked them against the ratified Constitution or Code of Laws.

Common Rights and Duties of all Citizens
  • Participate in all Judicial discussions
  • Request that any Judicial discussion be moved to its own thread in the Citizen's forum
  • Post requests for Judicial Review of existing law. These requests should contain a specific question and the section of law in question
  • Post requests for Judicial Review of proposed amendments. This request should contain the exact text to be reviewed and a link to the discussion thread
  • Post requests for clarification. This is an unofficial question about the rules that does not create a finding, but may lead to a Judicial Review
  • Post requests for Citizen Complaints. This is a request to determine if a citizen has violated a rule. This request must be posted in the Judicial thread. There are no anonymous requests.
Shared duties and responsibilities of all Justices
  • Conduct the business of the court in a fair, impartial, open and speedy manner
  • Review and discuss any questions about our laws
  • Review all proposed Amendments to our laws
  • Review all requested Citizen Complaints to determine if the charge has merit
  • Participate in all Citizen Complaints in a fair and impartial manner
  • Post clear and decisive opinions on all questions. Abstentions are not allowed
  • Notify the Judiciary during any Absence, and arrange for a Pro-Tem replacement
  • Discuss and ratify these Judicial Procedures
  • Recuse themself from any Citizen Complaints that they are involved in as either the citizen requesting the CC, or as the citizen under investigation.
Rights and Duties of the Chief Justice
  • Post polls for amendments once they pass review
  • Post any valid Recall poll
  • Oversee all Judicial Proceedings
  • Maintain the Judicial Log
  • Appoint all Pro-Tem justices and seek confirmation by the President
  • Request that other justices post an opinion promptly
  • Maintain the docket and decide the priority level of cases
Rights and Duties of the Judge Advocate
  • Serve as the Prosecution during any trial of a citizen. In this role, the Judge Advocate need not act impartial as they are arguing for a specific side
  • Post polls for amendments and recalls
Rights and Duties of the Public Defender
  • Serve as the Defense during a trial of a citizen, unless requested otherwise by the citizen. In this role, the Public Defender need not act impartial as they are arguing for a specific side
  • Post polls for amendments and recalls
Judicial Reviews
Judicial Reviews are used to resolve questions of the law and to validate proposed amendments. The opinion of a majority of the Justices will be used to resolve the Judicial Review.

Reviews of existing laws may be requested by anyone. The Chief Justice shall review each request for merit. If the Chief Justice declines the request, either of the other two Justices may accept the request and override the Chief Justice. The Chief Justice will post each accepted request, clearly denoting the questions. After at least 24 hours, each Justice may post their finding. This post should clearly answer the questions as posed by the Chief Justice. The Chief Justice may request that the justices post their opinion promptly, requiring all justices to make a ruling within 72 hours. The Chief Justice may request clarification of these findings as needed.

Reviews of a proposed law may be requested by anyone. The post must include the proposed law, and a link to the discussion thread. The proposed law must have been conspicuously posted as a proposed poll for at least 24 hours, and the discussion thread open for at least 48 hours. The Justices will review the law for any conflicts with current law, and post their findings. Any Justice may post the poll for all proposals that pass Judicial Review.

All reviews must be finished by the end of the term if at all possible. The Chief Justice may defer a Judicial Review to the next term if it is filed less than 72 hours before the end of this term.

Absence Investigations
Absence Investigations are used to determine the status of an elected official who has not posted for an extended period of time and to remove that citizen from office if necessary. Any citizen may initiate an Absence Investigation if an elected official fails to post on the Civilization Fanatics' Forums for 7 days.

If a valid Absence Investigation is called, the Chief Justice is to start the investigation by indicating that an Absence Investigation has started. The Chief Justice must then send a private message to the official against whom the investigation has been called. An e-mail should also be sent if possible. The official will have 48 hours to respond to the private message. At the end of this time, or after a response has been received by the official in question, the Chief Justice may declare the commencement of voting on whether or not the seat should be rendered vacant. Each justice should clearly post their vote on this issue. If a majority of justices vote in favor of declaring the office vacant, the official shall be removed and the President empowered to appoint another citizen to that post.

Citizen Complaints
Citizen complaints are used to determine if a citizen has violated a rule. They may be requested by any citizen in a post in the Judicial thread. Except as noted, the Justices must act in a fair, impartial, open and speedy manner throughout the process. All citizens are innocent unless determined to be guilty. Citizen Complaints shall be completed by the end of the term, unless the Judiciary finds this to be impossible, in which case the next term’s court may finish the investigation. All evidence, except foreknowledge of the game, must be presented publicly. Evidence of foreknowledge of the game will be reviewed by the Judiciary, and a statement about that evidence posted. Once that evidence becomes irrelevant due to game progress, any citizen may request it to be posted.

Any citizen who is the defendant of a Citizen Complaint shall have the right to representation throughout the process. The Public Defender shall be tasked with defending each citizen charged with an offense from the moment the Citizen Complaint is filed until the complaint is concluded, unless another citizen is appointed by the defendant to serve as the Defense, with that citizen's consent.

At any time during a citizen complaint, the citizen making the request may drop the request, ending the citizen complaint unless another citizen wishes to continue the process. Likewise, the citizen under investigation may accept the charges, and move immediately to the Sentencing phase.

If a citizen has been found innocent of a charge or if the citizen has been found guilty and sentenced appropriately, the citizen may not be charged again with the same violation.

Review
Each requested Citizen Complaint will be reviewed by the Judiciary. Justices will gather and look through the evidence presented, including requests for statements from all citizens. If all three Justices determine the request to have No Merit, the basis for that finding will be posted by each Justice and the request is denied. If at least one Justice determines the request to have Merit, a trial on the facts will be conducted. The Judge Advocate will review the request and the relevant law, and determine the specific law the accused citizen is alleged to have violated.

Trial
The Judge Advocate will create a thread for the trial in the Citizen's forum. This initial post should contain the specific violations and the evidence for those accusations. The next two posts are reserved for the citizen accused and the Public Defender - until they post, or 24 hours from the initial post, no other citizen may post in the thread. All citizens are encouraged to post in this thread, but are reminded to respect the rights of all citizens.

Once the at least 48 hours have passed, and discussion has petered out, the Chief Justice can declare the discussion closed, and post a Trial poll.

The Trial poll will be a private poll, with the options Innocent, Guilty and Abstain. It will run for 48 hours. The option receiving the most votes will determine the result. In the event of a tie, the members of the Judiciary will determine the result by posting clear opinions in the Trial thread.

Sentencing
If a citizen under investigation during a Citizen Complaint has accepted the charges, the citizen, the accuser and the Judiciary may determine and assign a sentence if they all unanimously agree to the arrangement. Failure to uphold that arrangement will result in full sentencing poll posted as if the citizen were found guilty in a Trial.

If an arrangement cannot be made, or the citizen was found Guilty, the sentence will be determined by the citizens through a poll. The Chief Justice will post the poll, marked as private with a duration of 48 hours. The options for the poll will include:
  • Suspension from Demogame
  • Removal from Office (if applicable)
  • Public Apology
  • Final Warning
  • Warning
  • Abstain
Other options may be included through unanimous consent of the Judiciary.

Once the poll closes, the Chief Justice will determine the sentence imposed using cumulative voting. The most severe option that a majority of citizens support will be imposed. If a Warning is issued, a warning will be posted by the Chief Justice in the Judicial thread and may be reposted in that person’s government thread, if they hold an office. If a citizen is given a Final Warning, the above procedure will be used, but with stronger language. Additionally, the options “Warning” and “Final Warning” will not appear on a sentencing poll if that citizen is charged with a similar offense in the future. If a citizen is sentenced to a Public Apology, a thread apologizing for the actions taken must be posted by the defendant within 48 hours of the close of the sentencing poll. If the citizen is removed from office, they are barred from holding that office for the remainder of the term. The length of a suspension is to be determined by the Judiciary, with the required consent of the moderators[/quote]
 
Wow! I'm glad to be in your team, DS! :D
I'm looking forward to work with you (AND YOU, Mr. mhcarver)! Obviously I seem to be the greenhorn here... :confused:
I'll jump right into work on Wednesday! (RL-issues right now (new job tomorrow and new place to live, actually ;) - Just like civ4-life...)

Stilgar08
 
Stilgar08 said:
Wow! I'm glad to be in your team, DS! :D
I'm looking forward to work with you (AND YOU, Mr. mhcarver)! Obviously I seem to be the greenhorn here... :confused:
I'll jump right into work on Wednesday! (RL-issues right now (new job tomorrow and new place to live, actually ;) - Just like civ4-life...)

Stilgar08

Don't tempt fate...
 
because of the ongoing investigation into the last elections and my sudden swing from seven votes down to victory, I am going to lean on the safe side and withold my vote on procedures for the moment
-mhcarver
 
Copied from elections-thread to ensure this gets seen:
Ok!
Unfortunately I just saw the outcome of this election. Recently I've been very busy with RL and therefore couldn't follow the elections (I moved, changed jobs and we had christmas and New Year, BTW). That's the reason why I stated nothin' in the judiciary thread but I believe people recognised Ravensfire and my discussions concerning the tri (Thanks for pointing these out!) as constructive and sharp at the same time! Furthermore you can see from my various posts and memberships about the way I think how a DG should be going and how I would raise my voice in one way or the other! I agree with some stated opinions here that it would have been good to have ravensfire and me as Jing&Jang in one gremium and not as contestants in the elections for it... (Nothing against my noble judiciary-branch-fellows mhcarver and DS, of course! I'm looking forward to work with you!)

I didn't even vote here!! And I just want to state that I have done nothing to manipulate in any way! How could I? If I can be of any help to verify or proof the outcome of this election let me know!

It's a sort of bittersweet win after I read this :sad: . It's ironic that I, who is fighting for democracy and basic-democracy as I understand it is sort of under "a false light" because of the unusual outcome of this vote... :(

I like to thank all the voters who voted for me and I'm more than willing to fulfil the tasks assigned to me!!!! And thanks for the congratulations! :)

Nonetheless if there are doubts about the lawfulness of this vote I'll offer my position again and would run again in a new election! :salute:

I hereby strongly deny any accusations or suspicions against my person!!!

Stilgar08
 
There have been some changes in the Judiciary.

* Who would you like to see be Chief Justice of the Court: DaveShack (result valid)
* Term 1 - Election for Public Defender of the Court: RavensFire (corrected)
* Election for Judge Advocate of the Court: Donsig (corrected)
 
The first post has been corrected.

On a personal note, in both the PD and JA elections I would have been happy to work with the initial apparent winners, and I'm equally supportive of the new results. All of the Judiciary candidates, including my CJ opponents and the remaining PD/JA candidates not affected by this change, have served the DemoGame with distinction.

I now call upon the newly validated Judiciary to take up the task of reviewing judicial procedures. As stated in my previous post, I had not even reviewed them myself, nor have I had a chance to work on it since then. Let's get this thing started! It looks like we'll have several requests for JR's just as soon as we're ready.
 
Stilgar08 said:
Sorry, I didn't get that? Could you explain what you mean?

Now you know. (that, and the fact that the Judiciary tends to have some of the more... interesting controversies from time to time.)
 
Do note that Alphawolf can not post as he's banned right now.
 
Chieftess said:
Do note that Alphawolf can not post as he's banned right now.

This is getting ridiculous. Our government is being ground to a halt due to one member? Then why don't you guys just unilaterally impose the Flexible government on us and set the start date for Feb 1st?

I am not sure what Blkbird's request was, but tomorrow morning I plan on asking the Judiciary to rule on our President's 7-day absence. As far as I know, the subject does not have to be present for a ruling on that. Or does the ban put the 7-day law on hold as well?

Please let me know if I can stop wasting my time on common sense solutions.
 
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