Alternate History Thread II...

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The situation in Constantinople was desperate. The Avars were besieging the city, of course. They had overrun the northern provinces, and knocking at the gates every second chance they got; the city would soon be starving. If the Avars were to get modern siege equipment, why, the city would probably fall in under a year’s time. What would happen then? Would the Eastern Roman Empire simply dissolve?

Heraclius seemed to think so. He had seriously considered moving his capital to the city of Carthage in faraway Northern Africa, and even now, he was contemplating wether he ought to give the command, and pack his bags. Perhaps it was better to go to that faraway land then die in this city; after all, Africa wasn’t too bad of a place, it was said. South of the Atlas was desert, but the northern part of it was fertile enough. Yet it was no Constantinople, and in any other time, moving the capital would have been preposterous.

What made the emperor so distraught could be assessed by looking out a tower window across the Bosporus. There burned the campfires of a massive army, one far more sophisticated and deadly than the Avar host that gathered around the European walls of the city. These were the Sassanids, a Persian dynasty that had penetrated deep into the Eastern Roman Empire. In 613 they had taken Damascus, 614 Jerusalem. Egypt was lost to them in 616, and now their raids had reached Chalcedon, only a few miles away from the Roman Capital.

Heraclius had, admittedly, made reforms. He had formed the fuedal theme system, and he had marched back across Anatolia to invade Persia itself. But now, the whole war hung in the balance, as the Avars besieged Constantinople again, and a Persian raid came ever so close to reaching them. Ever so close...

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Alas, the weather makes jests of our best laid plans.

Heraclius had been sure enough of Constantinople’s defenses, that he had been able to invade Persia itself, without worry for the capital. The Avars could not breach the defenses, and the Persians could not make it across the straits. The capital was safe.

Or was it?

The Mediterranean is not particularly known for its storms, especially not the sunny Aegean, but it is no stranger to them. The raging storm that roared up the Sea of Mamara, a caprice of the weather that was caused by nothing more than a butterfly’s wing, caught the Byzantine navy very much by surprise. Ships were turned and tossed in the great harbor of Constantinople, and much of the fleet was greatly damaged.

The night following the storm, the Persians managed to make a bridge of boats across the Bosporus, as Xerxes had done so many years before, and they gained the other shore. The siege engines were set up, and thus, in late 626, the city of Constantinople fell to combined Avar and Persian forces.

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Heraclius had been away on campaign in Colchis at that time, across the Black Sea from his fallen capital. But now he raced to come to their aid, along the coast. Part of the Roman fleet had fled from the fall of Constantinople into the Black Sea, and they supported him, but he did not have nearly the full strength; the rest of the fleet had scattered around the empire.

His army marched through Pontus, and came along the coast to nearly the site that the Persians themselves had been only a few months ago; near Chalcedon. Here, though, they met the Persian army, under their emperor, Khozrau II, along with Avar allies. And in their rear appeared the army of Shahrbaraz, a famed general of Persia, who had shadowed him from Colchis all the way to this site. The decisive battle of the war would be fought here, the decisive battle that decided the fate of the Byzantine Empire.

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Heraclius took position on a ridge towards the east of the battlefield. The troops from the Roman themes, drawn up in battle formation, arrayed in neat lines, waited for the Persians. Their spears glimmered in the rays of sunlight that streamed through breaks in the canopy of the dense forest that covered the slope of the hill. The Roman cataphracts and other cavalry were drawn up in the rear, ready to reinforce any part of the line, or protect the flanks from Persian attack. The Khazars, their mercenary allies, were to their south, protecting their flank from Persian assault.

The Persians and Avars drew up in a crescent formation, confident and impetuous. The Persian main guard, cavalry and infantry mixed protecting the emperor, was drawn up on a slope opposite the Roman main force, with a gully in between. The Avars were drawn up to the north, on flatter ground that lent itself to their mounted warriors better.

Meanwhile, to their south, Shahrbaraz aligned his forces also for battle, on a flat, forested plain. His men were rather impatient, as they had been following the Romans for a month now, but he bid them be calm, and screened his main force with cavalry to prevent the Romans from attacking him while he drew up, as they held the high ground above him.

The battle was set. The pieces had finished moving into place, and Chalcedon began.

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Khozrau had something of a mind to envelope the Romans from north and south, ala Cannae. He was a student of classical history, as much as Heraclius was. He had the numbers that Hannibal had not, and the superior position. Besides, he reasoned, Heraclius would stay on his hill, safe and sound. He would not abandon his protection.

Khozrau sent forth his Avar allies to attack the northern flank of the Romans.

Heraclius saw the cavalry of the Avars move steadily towards his right flank. He ordered the spearmen of that part of the line to hold steadfast, to lock their shields and defend like the Greek Phalanxes of old. He sent a small contingent of cavalry to guard their flank, but not the better part of his force. That he sent on another mission, one that would define this chapter of the Eastern Roman Empire. For good or for ill, Heraclius had thrown the dice.

The cataphracts of the Roman army led a charge, purple banners rippling with the white cross emblazoned upon them, thousands of cavalry, followed by a horde of heavily armored infantry. They plunged down the western slope of the hill, into the valley, and then they started to cross over, beginning the way back up. Up the western hill, towards the banner of Khozrau.

Meanwhile, the Khazars went south, to attack Shahrbaraz, and to hold him off. That was their only instruction, and initially, at least, they held true to that. But in the course of an afternoon, much can change.

Shahrbaraz sent an envoy to the Khazar leader. He promised something better than what the Byzantines could give him. He promised the Khazars an empire. They took the bribe, and just like that, nearly a quarter of the already outnumbered Roman force had changed sides.

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The Roman cavalry thundered up the western hill, but they suffered terrible losses before they made contact, with a rain of Persian arrows falling upon their cataphracts. Yet still they struggled onwards, and came onwards.

Khozrau lost his patience. He sounded the attack.

The Persian cavalry thundered down the hill, supported by their own infantry, and they clashed with the Persian lines, but only for a few moments. Then the tide turned, and the purple was sent falling back, across the valley. Their rout seemed complete, until the Persians came to the nadir of the valley and now up the eastern hill.

Then a thousand more Roman cavalry plunged down, having heretofore been hidden by the forests of that hill. They plunged through their own troops, and then led them on, punching through the Persian battle line. The Roman troops ascended the western hill.

Khozrau had the setting sun in his eyes; it was hard to see exactly what was going on in the valley. And then the sound of hooves reached him. Something was wrong; his forces could not have been victorious so soon. Then a banner covered the setting sun for a moment, and he saw that it was purple, with a white cross.

He panicked, and ordered his men forward in a reckless charge again. But the Romans tided over his army, and soon he was in the midst of the fighting himself.

Now, though, the Persians and the Khazars from the south flanked the Roman army themselves. Shahrbaraz led the troops himself, cutting down Heraclius and smashing into the rear of the Roman army. The battle line of the Romans began to collapse, and there seemed to be no end to the Persians that attacked them. Carried away from the actual fighting himself, Khozrau allowed himself a moment of peace.

He never saw the arrow that struck him in the eye. Nor would those who gave his body a royal burial after the battle realize that it was no Roman arrow, but a Persian one.
 
Yes His Majesties Government-in-exile has used its near complete control of the roaring forties to dominate the south...if at the cost of losses elsewhere...

Heh. As it happens, that was one of my ideas for Australia's predominance as well (British government fleeing to Australia from foreign invaders and resuming the empire-building from there)...

EDIT:

Nice story, NK, very intriguing. Although I had hoped you will resume your Constance timeline, I really enjoyed it...

Some nitpicks, though:

after all, Africa wasn’t too bad of a place, it was said.

Heraclius' father was a bloody African governor, so I'd expect Heraclius knowing more about Africa than just what "was said" in Constantinople.

Unless, ofcourse, this is a different Heraclius...

The Mediterranean is not particularly known for its storms

Actually, yes it is, especially the Eastern one (and especially in winter...). ;)
 
das said:
Nice story, NK, very intriguing. Although I had hoped you will resume your Constance timeline, I really enjoyed it...

Constance is, I think, too cumbersome, and getting a tad bit unrealistic where I left off...

Heraclius' father was a bloody African governor, so I'd expect Heraclius knowing more about Africa than just what "was said" in Constantinople.

Unless, ofcourse, this is a different Heraclius...

That I didn't know... But you can hardly blame me for using such a common turn of phrase...

Actually, yes it is, especially the Eastern one (and especially in winter...). ;)

Shh... :p
 
Well heres the one I posted earlier, slightly edited and with cities...which should now tip you off to what happened in the 1760s

Spoiler :

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Also @ das; Foreign invaders? ;). Take a look at where the Capital of blue english nation is...
 
getting a tad bit unrealistic where I left off...

Show me a perfectly realistic timeline. ;)

Take a look at where the Capital of blue english nation is...

They could've moved it there. :p
 
Your map doesn't load at all, Dis.
 
das said:
They could've moved it there. :p

Moving the capital to manchester? there would have been open revolt in the south :P, No, the Manchunian Union and its mercenaries had to impose control by force...though admitedly foreign powers made it possible. Still no guesses on what happened?...I would have thought northern europe would have been a give away...

das said:
Your map doesn't load at all, Dis.

Works fine for me :hmm:
 
No, still not working... Try to post it again.
 
Works for me...

1760's, huh? Well I'd think the French and Indian war spiraled into a larger conflict that France won, but the British-looking Canada leads me to believe that's wrong.

EDIT: Seven Years War goes toward a French victory?
 
Thlayli said:
Works for me...

1760's, huh? Well I'd think the French and Indian war spiraled into a larger conflict that France won, but the British-looking Canada leads me to believe that's wrong.

A knock on effect was French victory in Louisina*, but not the cause of the change.

'Canada'** formally recognises the king in Australia as its head of state...but its really not very british at all so your quite on the ball there.

*For the French at that time losing was not an option ;)
**I actually need to come up with a non-stupid sounding name for these guys...
 
Thlayli said:
Republique de Louisiane, maybe? Dominion de Nouvelle Orleans?

Anyway, I don't get why they aren't just part of France.

A better name for the Canada nation, the Empire of Louisiane sounds fine already ;). Well why don't you look at france, and look at Louisiana and spot the difference...

Venetian Egypt and India...that's hilarious. ;)

I thought so too, they profit quite a bit from the Change, and an alliance with the Ottomans...at least in the past; the Ottomans are now requesting that eygpt be returned to them...
 
Once again, I am ********.

How do you get the smily with the guy beating his head with a mallet?
 
Shahrbaraz had cleverly cleared the path of succession. Now he took command of the united Sassinid army, putting down the revolts in the last gasp of the Balkan and Anatolian Roman Empire in 629. His army fought no major battles; for there was little to fight; the main Roman armies had already been defeated. More and more Roman defectors went over to him, and soon, an interesting situation had developed.

The last of the Roman loyalists had fled to Sicily and North Africa, where they had founded a rump empire in that area. The Papal states, whose Pope Honorius had always been looking to increase the fold of the Catholic church, eagerly annexed the last Roman lands in Italy, forming a vast Papal state.

The Avars, meanwhile, were encamped along with the Persians on the south side of the Bosporus. They were far from home, and their chieftain had been killed in battle. Shahbaraz could have their loyalty in a second, if he promised them something in return, but their loyalty went only so far as gold could buy. He could not rely on the Avars as soldiers.

Furthermore, he had promised an empire to the Khazars, and the nomads were still waiting for him to make good on his offer. He had promised them the lands of the vast Avar tribes that had not invaded the Roman Empire. These lands, he knew, were too vast for the Khazars to truly rule over, and that was his intention; if the Khazars were too occupied giving attention to their own lands, they could hardly trouble him.

Meanwhile, in the south, rumor had it that a prophet named Muhammad was trying to unite the Arab tribes into a single force. The Sassinid Empire was strong, though, and there was little chance that the Arabs could destroy it... Except that there was.

Once the news of the Shah’s death spread to the Sassinids in the main area of the empire, the various men of the court had begun a power struggle, raising new armies of conscripts to battle each other. The Empire was ripe for invasion, open, if anyone were brave enough to take it...

Shahrbaraz, then, was left in an interesting position. He could try to lay claim to the Sassinid throne again. Or he could try something else...

By 630 he had made his decision. He took the surname Parvez (“The Ever Victorious”), and had himself crowned the first Emperor of the Parvez Dynasty of the Roman Empire.

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The new Roman Empire had to be reformed, of course, considerably so. It was primarily Christian, but its new ruler was a Zoroastrian. It was a nation that spoke Greek, with Latin local administrators, with a Persian ruler. Shahrbaraz decided that he would convert to Christianity, and his sons would be educated in the new religion, and the Greek language. He would, however, still have the Persian language studied and taught in Constantinople, and the Persians brought in many cultural imports to their new empire, integrating it with the old. Persian rugs, in particular, would now be called Roman rugs.

The next step that he took was defeating forces loyal to the various factions in the Sassinid civil war in Anatolia, Syria, and Egypt. This was familiar territory to him, and by 634 he had the whole of the area united under his rule.

Next, he took steps to root out corruption and resistance to his rule in the Roman Empire. Granted relative peace by his victory over the Sassinid princes, and his clever diplomatic maneuvering to keep the Khazar and Avar mercenaries appeased through this time, he was fairly successful at this. Given time, he reasoned, his Empire, which consisted of what had been most of the Eastern Roman Empire, was quite secure.

Umar, second Caliph of the Muslim Arabs, though, had other ideas.

United behind their spiritual leader and under fearsome military captains, the energies of the Arab tribes, which had for so long been directed only at fighting each other, were now focused outwards, in an explosive boom. What started out as a raid on Mesopotamia turned into a full scale invasion that won the Arabs control of this region of the former Sassinid Empire in only a year.

Then they turned their energies westward, against the new Roman Empire. Shahrbaraz was nearly on his deathbed, but his life energies seemed rekindled by this new threat to the empire he had crafted. Thus, he assembled the armies of his new empire, and drew them up in Palestine, near Jerusalem. There his armies skirmished with the Arabs for over a month before finally they drew up, facing each other on the field of battle.

Then they waited, each trying to gain some advantage over the other. Finally, when an Arab flanking attempt was pummeled by a Roman force, Shahrbaraz invited the Caliph Umar to treat with him.

They met in between the armies, under a white silken tent. And there they negotiated for over an hour. Shahrbaraz was an eloquent speaker, and his words transmitted power even through a translator; Umar was convinced over to his plan. The Arabs and the Romans had made peace, of a sorts. They would strike as one towards the west; the Arabs would receive Egypt and North Africa, and be given ships at Carthage to help them invade Sicily. There they would join a Roman force, march north, and take the city of Rome. The Arabs would get half of that city’s treasury, and they would take the ships that they captured from the Italian cities on another expedition overseas, to take the rest of the North African coast, and then Spain. For their part, the Romans would take Italy, the Balkans, Dacia, and Gaul. It was a bold and daring plan, one that bordered on recklessness. However, if it were to be timed appropriately, it would triumph.

Shahrbaraz, for his part, intended to hire the Avars to aid him by attacking Northern Italy. This would weaken their tribes sufficiently that, when he turned his Khazars loose to make themselves a kingdom, they would find the lands they were promised weak and easy booty, and would make massive gains, that they would be honor bound to keep... And that they would be just as hard pressed to keep. The Khazars and the Avars would be weakened to the point where they were not a threat to the Romans. And while he had lost the rich province of Egypt, with luck, he would gain the rich province of Italy, and Gaul as well; furthermore, his border secure to the south, he could focus on northward expansion. It was also a long term plan in that he believed by helping the Arabs along to take such an area, they would be overstretched, and his eventual grandson would be able to wrest control of Egypt and North Africa from them.

All would go well for the Romans, so long as everything went to plan...

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Lord_Iggy said:
Couldn't you just tell me? BTW, are you still the Gargari in LINESII?

Well you could always look at the BBCode in my post :D. As for LINESII, I dunno, I kinda lost interest when my main plan in update 3 completely didn't happen and you never replied to my PM'd inquiry on why it didn't happen...plus the fact that I really didn't want to have to look after Dula-whatever (aurochs for gods sake :rolleyes: ) in the first place...I'll catch up on the thread tomorrow and decide if I want to stay in.
 
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