P666-01 Fix the Trash Game
- Thread starter Cam_H
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. The Parthenon however is in Paris. 
n.b. She has Construction and has Ivory hooked up.
oups...
sorry, I haven't finished it yet...
only up to 840 AD... I've been Highjacked by formerly dismissed duties... I had things to do I had forgotten in my fever to play...
I will finish the few turns tomorrow before midnight .... I hope.
the event log will have to wait a bit more.
sorry, I haven't finished it yet...
only up to 840 AD... I've been Highjacked by formerly dismissed duties... I had things to do I had forgotten in my fever to play...
I will finish the few turns tomorrow before midnight .... I hope.
the event log will have to wait a bit more.
.So now we have 6 submissions
- VuDu (honneur aux dames)
- Petrucci
- Mice
- Pigswill
- Cam_h
- Cabert (yep, it's me)
One more at least is coming (Cavalente, It's friday night american east coast time, so you can play up to 6 am saturday
)
And Armstrong implied he could post his save too.
Making 8 saves to go through.
Maybe even more if Paul 666 or WIII come out of their graves!
I know my game is weaker than I wanted it to be, and hope i won't be the trash game.
But to be true, i'll have a superficial look at cam's, pigswill's, armstrong and mine (well, i know my own game) and make a thorough comparison of the 4 others only, unless one of the "monarch" games turn out to be really trashy (my own isn't really THAT bad, but if all those noble/prince games turn out to be great, i'll have another look at it).
I can tell from the writeups (well, calavente can still do a
move and Armstrong didn't write anything yet) that there still is no real trash game, and we'll probably have an easy win (maybe in the next round!).
Next game should be on monarch (pigswill stated a long time ago we need some challenge, and he was right) or with real noobs
About deadlines:
Tonight is the end of round 3 to 1000 AD, then we have 2 days of vote, so we'll know the "winner" on monday and can play up to 1500 AD until next sunday evening.
That's cool.
But (yes there is a but)
WHO DO I SEND MY BOTTOM 3 LIST TO FOR THE SECRET VOTE?
last time it was petrucci who didn't submit a game, so could do it with no pressure.
This time, we have saves from everyone...
EDIT : armstrong, if you didn't play it yet, could you be the vote coordinator ?
- VuDu (honneur aux dames)
- Petrucci
- Mice
- Pigswill
- Cam_h
- Cabert (yep, it's me)
One more at least is coming (Cavalente, It's friday night american east coast time, so you can play up to 6 am saturday
)And Armstrong implied he could post his save too.
Making 8 saves to go through.
Maybe even more if Paul 666 or WIII come out of their graves!
I know my game is weaker than I wanted it to be, and hope i won't be the trash game.
But to be true, i'll have a superficial look at cam's, pigswill's, armstrong and mine (well, i know my own game) and make a thorough comparison of the 4 others only, unless one of the "monarch" games turn out to be really trashy (my own isn't really THAT bad, but if all those noble/prince games turn out to be great, i'll have another look at it).
I can tell from the writeups (well, calavente can still do a
move and Armstrong didn't write anything yet) that there still is no real trash game, and we'll probably have an easy win (maybe in the next round!).Next game should be on monarch (pigswill stated a long time ago we need some challenge, and he was right) or with real noobs
About deadlines:
Tonight is the end of round 3 to 1000 AD, then we have 2 days of vote, so we'll know the "winner" on monday and can play up to 1500 AD until next sunday evening.
That's cool.
But (yes there is a but)
WHO DO I SEND MY BOTTOM 3 LIST TO FOR THE SECRET VOTE?
last time it was petrucci who didn't submit a game, so could do it with no pressure.
This time, we have saves from everyone...
EDIT : armstrong, if you didn't play it yet, could you be the vote coordinator ?
pigswill
fly (one day)
I've updated my strategy explanation (#220). As for finishing next round it depends on whether we'd need to launch a maritime invasion to secure victory.
Thanks Cabert for all that (#226), and thanks also Pigswill for the expanded analysis.
As your appointed leader
I decree that if Armstrong happens to swing by in the next day, he can be the official 'returning officer'. 
Cabert - I hope your game isn't up for consideration, or I'm in serious trouble!
I'm thinking that an entire round (voting and playing) should be seven days, rather than two for voting plus seven for playing. It would sure suit me.
I agree with your sentiments; everyone who's posted seems to have the "mission accomplished" for this round (except for the exceptional Pigswill), and it seems like fine points and small preferences are going to split it ... unless Calavente can come up with something particularly 'special' ... not that there's pressure or anything
"Next game"? What's this "Next game"?
There seems to be a sense that this game is all but won (which I'm not arguing with) but I wonder to what extent our starting location might have been a major determinant in this.
As your appointed leader
I decree that if Armstrong happens to swing by in the next day, he can be the official 'returning officer'. Cabert - I hope your game isn't up for consideration, or I'm in serious trouble!
I'm thinking that an entire round (voting and playing) should be seven days, rather than two for voting plus seven for playing. It would sure suit me.
I agree with your sentiments; everyone who's posted seems to have the "mission accomplished" for this round (except for the exceptional Pigswill), and it seems like fine points and small preferences are going to split it ... unless Calavente can come up with something particularly 'special' ... not that there's pressure or anything
"Next game"? What's this "Next game"?
There seems to be a sense that this game is all but won (which I'm not arguing with) but I wonder to what extent our starting location might have been a major determinant in this.
Cam_H said:
That and the strong second turnset. I like the big turnsets, was it 80 turns. In future games, hopefully there will be more, big turnsets will give more scope for catastrophe. Monarch too .
About this game, pigswill I find it so interesting that you opted to build. And Cam too, a conservative approach. I have it my head that we need to attack constantly, but it seems that with this good start ( 0- 80 turns) the AI has presented no threat .
"Strong second turnset"?
"Strong second turnset"!?
... it was Cabert's game you were playing, wasn't it? This is the two Archers and one Warrior and "Cam you're not in war mode" turnset?
Barbarians in the ... you know ... 'strong' second turnset turned out to be as threatening as anything else.
"Strong second turnset"!?
... it was Cabert's game you were playing, wasn't it?
This is the two Archers and one Warrior and "Cam you're not in war mode" turnset?mice said:
Barbarians in the ... you know ... 'strong' second turnset
turned out to be as threatening as anything else.Cam_H said:
It was clearly very strong from a technological perspective, and it had aimed to ensure Copper was able to be accessed.
that's the good part of secret vote
you can tell the same to everyone Well, i think i brought us from 1 pop, no troops, no military possibility, to 13 pop points, 3 defensive troops, and a good tech start towards offensive military.
A bit better than others because i had mathematics already = closer to construction. + pop rushing could give anytime 2 more archers if needed. I am not ashamed of my weak troops, since i could build none of offense value.
you won't take cities with archer will you? Well, you already did
but i don't think you could do it again.I left the warrior in hambourg, but thought a lot of fogbusting with this guy instead...Cam_H said:Barbarians in the ... you know ... 'strong' second turnset
same for berlin's archer...
with 2 fogbusters, you don't see so much barbs...
About next round, remember we go for the weakest game, so your stats may give some good information (beware of GNP, it doesn't take into account gold and beakers from specialists)
pigswill
fly (one day)
More reliable than GNP is beakers and excess gold (gold-expenses). And of course statistics don't tell everything.
armstrong
Prince
Since we already have 6 submissions, I can take the votes and not submit a game...
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pigswill
fly (one day)
I can see that my game is going to be difficult to compare to the other submissions. Captured one city in 80turns? I thought this was meant to be domination not space-race!! Fair point.
Still no other obvious candidates for trash game; some played slightly better than others, a few dubious moves but no major cock-ups. That won't stop me voting (you can't nominate your own game as best. Can you nominate it as worst?).
Still no other obvious candidates for trash game; some played slightly better than others, a few dubious moves but no major cock-ups. That won't stop me voting (you can't nominate your own game as best. Can you nominate it as worst?).
pigswill
fly (one day)
Cabert: I often play this particular pattern and the good trades are just coming up: feudalism, guilds, banking, engineering are all popular AI choices which can be traded for education and liberalism without giving away a huge advantage.
Meanwhile thoughts on games:-
Mice: re need to attack. If you don't antagonise the AI too much and (more importantly) build enough decent units to maintain a power rating you have a reasonable chance of being left alone.
Meanwhile thoughts on games:-
Spoiler :
Mice: re need to attack. If you don't antagonise the AI too much and (more importantly) build enough decent units to maintain a power rating you have a reasonable chance of being left alone.
