Whats your favorite and least favorite religion in FFH?

Civkid1991 said:
Oh cool.. you know where i could find the who version... i would like to hear it :)

Edit: what language is that?
Edit 2: what song is used for the fellowship of the leaves?

The song is Sting's but thats not him singing. Its a duet with Cheb Mami. He's a middle eastern singer but Im not sure what language he is singing in. Im not a really big Sting fan but I love Cheb Mami's part in that song.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00004SWIC/ref=s9_asin_title_1/002-6491981-0984864

The Fellowship of the Leaves song is Epona from Enya. I would highly recommend the full version, it is amazing and my cut doesn't do it justice.

http://www.amazon.com/Celts-Enya/dp/B000002MSM/sr=1-7/qid=1160096545/ref=sr_1_7/002-6491981-0984864?ie=UTF8&s=music
 
Kael said:
The song is Sting's but thats not him singing. Its a duet with Cheb Mami. He's a middle eastern singer but Im not sure what language he is singing in. Im not a really big Sting fan but I love Cheb Mami's part in that song.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00004SWIC/ref=s9_asin_title_1/002-6491981-0984864

The Fellowship of the Leaves song is Epona from Enya. I would highly recommend the full version, it is amazing and my cut doesn't do it justice.

http://www.amazon.com/Celts-Enya/dp/B000002MSM/sr=1-7/qid=1160096545/ref=sr_1_7/002-6491981-0984864?ie=UTF8&s=music

Cool... i also found a youtube vid for it... i think the language is aribic. Now it seems kind of wierd to listen to it and then think out the language that it was sang in -> OO != Aribic :lol:

Couldn't find the one for the fellowship of the leaves on youtube :(
 
Kael said:
The song is Sting's but thats not him singing. Its a duet with Cheb Mami. He's a middle eastern singer but Im not sure what language he is singing in. Im not a really big Sting fan but I love Cheb Mami's part in that song.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00004SWIC/ref=s9_asin_title_1/002-6491981-0984864

The Fellowship of the Leaves song is Epona from Enya. I would highly recommend the full version, it is amazing and my cut doesn't do it justice.

http://www.amazon.com/Celts-Enya/dp/B000002MSM/sr=1-7/qid=1160096545/ref=sr_1_7/002-6491981-0984864?ie=UTF8&s=music

On Cheb Mami:
It's Arabic. And IM fairly certain he's singing the Call to Prayer.
The only reason i think this is because friend of mine used to babysit a young Muslim Girl, and she was forbidden to listen to that song, because it profaned a divine message.

Whether or not the theology is sound, the message I clearly understood is that it was the Call to Prayer for Islam (Not sure what time of day for the prayer, or in what part of the world - As i understand it, it may vary from region to region)
-Qes

EDIT: I thought I remember being told that Cheb Mami was Egyptian. If im not mistaken.
 
Civkid1991 said:
Cool... i also found a youtube vid for it... i think the language is aribic. Now it seems kind of wierd to listen to it and then think out the language that it was sang in -> OO != Aribic :lol:

Couldn't find the one for the fellowship of the leaves on youtube :(

Well have you noticed the modified video for OO founding is the vanilla islam founding video?

Its a conspiracy i tell you! They are evil!

J/K but it makes you wonder why kael chose islam for the evil religion.
 
Xanikk999 said:
Well have you noticed the modified video for OO founding is the vanilla islam founding video?

Its a conspiracy i tell you! They are evil!

J/K but it makes you wonder why kael chose islam for the evil religion.

Its Neutral/Evil, its not the Ashen Vale.
-Qes
 
Xanikk999 said:
Well have you noticed the modified video for OO founding is the vanilla islam founding video?

Its a conspiracy i tell you! They are evil!

J/K but it makes you wonder why kael chose islam for the evil religion.

OO isn't really the evil civ... that title belongs to the ashen veil. But it is kind of funny that the song and the religovid for it are both islamic :)
 
QES said:
Its Neutral/Evil, its not the Ashen Vale.
-Qes

I consider them evil. Dont you know by now what the OO is about?

Slaves and creating undead drown! Mindless drones!

If thats not evil i dont know what is.
 
Xanikk999 said:
I consider them evil. Dont you know by now what the OO is about?

Slaves and creating undead drown! Mindless drones!

If thats not evil i dont know what is.

All religions have its ups and downs...

If you think about it though they aren't the ones that are comunicating with members of Dis.
 
Xanikk999 said:
I consider them evil. Dont you know by now what the OO is about?

Slaves and creating undead drown! Mindless drones!

If thats not evil i dont know what is.

So you consider money grubbing hording dwarves as good?
-Qes
 
Reminds me of the "Save a cow, eat a hippie" campaign.
-Qes
 
Bright day
My favourite is Neutral Kilmorph. I like certain kind of money politics.

My least favourite is OO.
 
I like the Order just because it has the least "flashy" benefits and occurs later in the game.

Leaves gets my choice for last place, just because it is so easy to invent and I have played it more than any other religion.

But the difference between first and last place is pretty darn slim.
 
I think there needs to be an addition of another 2 religions. With Equal Flavor of these 5 (not counting cult), and their own niches.
-Qes
 
I don't have a favorite religion, per se. I do try to RP the religion that I want at the time. For instance, in my last game I was playing a corrupted Capria and went AV with the Bannor for some fun. In my estimation, there are pluses and minuses to each religion, depending on what you want to do. I think that the strongest religion if you are a builder are the earlier religions, later religions for warmongers.
 
Methinks not enuf people have truly played AV to see how almost brokenly strong it is for a religion. AV priests gain access to both divine AND summoning, in the fire/death/chaos line. With chaos 1 divine, they get to gain mad exp at a small hit to power (whoopie, I wouldn't want to attack with them anyway). They get access to ring or fire/pillar of fire, as well as summoning nightmares and wraiths. A one-stop-shopping unit, you don't even NEED to research summoning if you want, and just focus on inquisitors/high priests. The only real drawback is the lack of spell extension, which is big, but still. A small hoard of ritualists (say 4-5) can easily tear down cities, especially if you are playing as the arc/sum leaders. Endless summons = never having to worry about rebuilding your units, you just get them back next turn for free.

Granted, AV's biggest weakspot is the need for reagents. If you don't have it reasonably closeby, I wouldn't even bother going AV.

As far as temples go, the extra gold other temples get is nice, but I often just use prophets/great merchants to add gold to the city and keep my research at 100%. I've been in many a game where the person chasing AV ending up fairly quickly a whole tier ahead of everyone else due to research, and the result was a total sweeping victory.

Finally, Rosier is MUCH better then Valin, for the one significant difference between them: Valin is anti-DEMON, but Rosier is anti-DISCIPLE. There are far more instances where anti-disciple is useful then anti-demon. All priests are disciple units, but only a few civs/religions build demon units, and many are summons.
 
Mithrus said:
Methinks not enuf people have truly played AV to see how almost brokenly strong it is for a religion. AV priests gain access to both divine AND summoning, in the fire/death/chaos line. With chaos 1 divine, they get to gain mad exp at a small hit to power (whoopie, I wouldn't want to attack with them anyway). They get access to ring or fire/pillar of fire, as well as summoning nightmares and wraiths. A one-stop-shopping unit, you don't even NEED to research summoning if you want, and just focus on inquisitors/high priests. The only real drawback is the lack of spell extension, which is big, but still. A small hoard of ritualists (say 4-5) can easily tear down cities, especially if you are playing as the arc/sum leaders. Endless summons = never having to worry about rebuilding your units, you just get them back next turn for free.

Granted, AV's biggest weakspot is the need for reagents. If you don't have it reasonably closeby, I wouldn't even bother going AV.

As far as temples go, the extra gold other temples get is nice, but I often just use prophets/great merchants to add gold to the city and keep my research at 100%. I've been in many a game where the person chasing AV ending up fairly quickly a whole tier ahead of everyone else due to research, and the result was a total sweeping victory.

Finally, Rosier is MUCH better then Valin, for the one significant difference between them: Valin is anti-DEMON, but Rosier is anti-DISCIPLE. There are far more instances where anti-disciple is useful then anti-demon. All priests are disciple units, but only a few civs/religions build demon units, and many are summons.

Maybe the AV should simply get another AV temple like building?

As it is, i think the "big guns" of AV should be rituals, i like what Kael seems to have in mind, and i want a pleathora more. But, in the short term, perhaps a small temple that conversts something INTO reagents. And perhaps some small other bonus.

Like "Cathedral of Rossier" - <Requires Stone, Marble>
Gain one Reagents in city.
+1 Happiness with Incense
+2 XP to all Disciple Units built in city.

-Qes
 
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