Heart of the Republic - A Rome: Total War AAR

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Captain2 said:
might i request the northern front be allowed to advance with whatever troops still exist up there? I havent been doing much for someone who came out of retirement...

Believe me, I always have you in mind for the northern campaign (and if Killyouall is reading this, your son too). However we are, as I always say people :p quite overstretched. We are switching to a defensive war, though the Iberians are making me a bit annoyed. SPIES in our Republic, how DARE they!
 
do the woman on sicily like sports? know what I mean, know what I mean, nudge-nudge nudge-nudge, know what I mean, say no more, know what I mean.
 
No, thats not what you said all throughout the Persia, India, French, and Brit- Err... wrong game. Anyway, I am all for expansion, even if it runs our economy into the ground.
 
Emp. Killyouall said:
No, thats not what you said all throughout the Persia, India, French, and Brit- Err... wrong game. Anyway, I am all for expansion, even if it runs our economy into the ground.

About overstretched military? Pfft, we DOMINATED the military throughout the entire war :D

Update tonight and on Sunday, I'm catching up and reorganising how I do things nowadays, and I have a comic to do for Monday which is more important. Then we're off to Sicily!
 
Heart of the Republic - A Rome: Total War AAR

Part Seventeen


The invasion of Sicily was expected to only achieve success if the main Greek army was destroyed early on. Roman reinforcements could not be expected for another few years, and if the Greeks were allowed to solidify their defence early on, there could be no chance of success for Tillus and Clericus’ army.

The siege of Messana then, was intended less of an attack on the city (indeed, the Republic Army didn’t even construct any seige equipment) than as an attempt to lure the Greek forces to them. It worked perfectly, and within months of landing the Republic entered it’s first battle on Sicily. They were outnumbered by an army numbering just less than four thousand - over a thousand more than their own army.

Tillus II had the advantage of controlling the high ground, and forced the Greek’s to march as far as possible to meet them in combat. Clericus meanwhile, controlled the bulk of the cavalry forces, who would be of little use in the early stages of the battle against the Greek Hoplites. He hoped to use them later on in the engagement - when their long spears were facing the other way!

Both the Senate and the two generals were ready for what would undoubtedly be a costly fight. Memories of Tarentum were invoked, and this was the first battle with Greece for nearly two decades. However, the Republic had learned much about war since then…

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The Greek retreat

When the Senate finally got news of the battle, they were shocked to find that there were little details about the fight itself. On further analysis, it became clear that this was because there was no battle! The Greek forces, tired out by the time the reached the Romans, simply broke down under the hail of Roman spears, and those that made it to the front lines found a battle hardened opponent quite ready to fight in depth. Demoralised, they simply fell back and ran. And then Clericus struck.

The cavalry, led by the General himself, surged forth and cut down the retreating enemy. They had little means to defend themselves, most having thrown down their weapons to escape quicker. Eventually Tillus II - perhaps holding back due to the memory of how his father was killed - charged forth and rode side by side with Clericus.

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The generals ride into battle

The result was not a victorious battle, but a massacre. The entire Greek army - numbering 3’605 strong, had been wiped out. Just 13 Romans had died.

Before the Senate could respond to this - it was likely they wouldn’t want to risk their luck further, the generals split their forces and attacked the remnants of Greece forces on Sicily. Tillus destroyed the secondary army in the north, while Cleric rode south and took the city of Syracuse. In one year the Republic had achieved what Carthage could not in eighteen.

There would be repercussions, but not from Greece…
 
What happened? Did you get lucky and kill their general or something?
 
nodikus said:
What happened? Did you get lucky and kill their general or something?

I have absolutely no idea. I expected a victory simply due to the position of our armies and that we were on the defensive, but not one so huge as this. I believe the fact that the distance they had to walk, as well as the fact they had no major generals gave us a huge advantage, but I've had battles like this before and never quite as impressive.

It was just a mass desertion!
 
*tears his hair out* geez, leaving the northern commander out of any action in preperation for fighting cowards? a glass of water could have held off our offensive better! I have half a mind ta... *false teeth fall out* errm yeah.... hows about helping the north sometime...

this was more of a shot at my aging then anything :p
 
nodikus said:
What happened? Did you get lucky and kill their general or something?

Crap AI plus I think Kan is playing on normal. Hoplites shouldn't break from a frontal attack like that.
 
Dell19 said:
plus I think Kan is playing on normal.

I am, and it's really bothering me now. I normally play normal for the campaign map, but hard for the battles. Seeing as I hadn't played Rome in so long - let along ever playing this mod - I figured that it would make sense to choose the standard settings.

I just completely forgot about the AI.

I probably should have learned from my HoI AAR as well - in a game I'm publicly displaying I will be playing at the top of my game, even if I'm not intending it.
 
I have had one AI battle on hard where maybe something similar happened. Carthage had one of my Numidian cities under siege and I sallied out of the fort. My ranged units pummelled their light units which routed and at this point the heavy units retreated. My ranged units chased them off the field as I don't believe I had any heavy cavalry at the time. A retreating unit can always turn and fight again if engaged by light cavalry that gets bogged down.

I haven't seen the enemy simply march up and then retreat without engaging at all especially when hoplites are meant to be strong against missiles from the front. Obviously the AI will run away occasionally when the human player attacks but they make the decision a bit earlier so that it is difficult to catch up with them.
 
Interlude

Respected members of the Roman Senate, thank you for convening so quickly.

I have just recieved some distressing news from Sicily. Though our forces have been victorious - indeed, achieving their goals faster than expected - we have a new enemy. I'm also afraid it was someone we had recently come to call as friend. We are now at war with Carthage.

This came as a great shock to me - Raisinus PUT DOWN that wine right now, it's not THAT bad - I had hoped that a friendship could be formed with Carthage, in which together we could bring stability to the Mediterranean. This is not to be. While I seriously doubt any Senator will request a limited war or even attempts at peace, I will say this now - I am overulling every Senator who requests a motion for peace. This is not just a war, it is a betrayal of the highest order. We went to Sicily not just to secure our borders, but to assist Carthage in securing theirs. It seems that seeing our military in action has put fear into their leaders.

So begins the Punic War. It comes at a time we are at war with Gaul and Greece, but I don't believe that is a problem. Gaul is still shattered and weak, while Clericus II sent me a message claiming that Greece requested peace in return for the city of Messana. Naturally, he laughed it off and demanded concessions from them. They refused, but it gives us hope that an agreement can be reached. At any rate - two of our best generals are currently in Sicily right now, I'm sure they will be quite prepared to prove Rome's worth to Carthage.

I believe this war should end with this one conclusion - the dominance of Rome over the western Meditteranean's trade cities and the conquest of Sicily. This is a unique opportunity, we should prepare well.

For the Republic gentlemen, let's give 'em hell.
 
*begins drinking some wine with raisinus*

wellllll welllll welllll, its a war eh! I havent have a campeine in roughly 4 years! *hic* so I found myself something else to do! SECURE THE WINE! noone may pass! unless they have more wine...
 
*hic* fine.... I wanna stay in gaul! hahaha!

good ol reversable psycologolgy

:p
 
Captain2 said:
flaming pigs? may i ask?

Exactly as it sounds.

There's a unit that can be trained that has pigs being sent towards the enemy on fire. I believe it's designed to scare any unit that uses animals - particularly the elephant units - but is obviously fairly inaccurate as a historical unit,
 
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