True Multitreaded semi succession game, Immortal or deity.

To be true, I will try to explain my reason to try to move game alone as fast as posible.

Normal speed full game deruation = 460turns,
after first 3 round we will use 120 of them,with 20 turns round after that.
50-40-30

(460-120)/20 + 3 = 21 week maximum time if we do a round a week.

That is allmost 1/2 year, mach more time that I want to spend to pay attention to one game.

If we finished it 100 turns early and limit to 5 days turns we should be able to wrap it up in 16*5 = 80 days ~ 3 mounth, still a long but posible time frame.
In my expirience of succession games, games that last more then 2 mounth tend to loose interest.
In useal succession games some turns done in a few hours, there is no chance that this one will move like that.

So, I somehow need to balance my desire to have as many people as posible playing with my desire to finish it in 2, maximum 3 mounth.

Mutineer said:

So, I somehow need to balance my desire to have as many people as posible playing with my desire to finish it in 2, maximum 3 mounth.

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What we did to solve this issue on "fix the trash game'" was playing for 40 turns/ each round. Of course, this gives you more options to screw up a game, but it gives everyone more time to play.
Following your calculations, that would lead to 3 months maximum, which is inside your admitted limits.

Would it makes sense to close the round and then allow other players to join in the next round? Only the players you allow to join of course, but it doesnt really matter that they didnt submit a save in round one.They pick up one of the saves on offer.

I think this format is really interesting and it would be a pity if it lost momentum.
I agree Mutineer that it should be short and sharp to keep interest, with only commited players playing.

I think a lot of people want to see how diety games are played.

Personally I want to bank a bit more starts.
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Personally I have to agree with many people who do not like deity dificulty.
Basicly it is not mach different from Immortal with one exeption:
For first thurd of the game you are so week so rundom war declaration can whipe you out or make game extrimmelly unfun.

So, In deity the is no garanty win.
In my save I bank on Alex behave himself next 20-30 turns or so, so I can build wander. However it might be more prudent to whipe Monastery and produce a few missionaries to convert Alex so he go after Warshinton or Gandi.
Problem is: that plan stuff economical development and does not garanty result. The fact that we are week as a baby might overweigth common religion and Alex declare anyway. In addition Other AI can overproduce missionaries and conver him faster then we.

That is a problem with begining of the game on deity, it just does not depends on your skills, but on chance.

Still, we will try to win. In my save I am banking on Alex behave for a bit and me getting GL befor building enoght military to survive.

I would like to join but how do i avoid my 1.61 update ???

????? It is Vanilla, not warlords. But I believe we use latest Vanilla pach, which is 1.61.

Why you decided that you need to avoide it?

mice said:

Would it makes sense to close the round and then allow other players to join in the next round?

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Save was posted on the 15th, so 5 days from there is the 20th, Monday. So we still have some time.

You need a longer time than a normal SG, or even the 2-team concurrent SG format because in this variation you are always "up".

Mutineer said:

????? It is Vanilla, not warlords. But I believe we use latest Vanilla pach, which is 1.61.

Why you decided that you need to avoide it?

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OK, i thought vanilla meant without updates...

Common folk, promises on sartaday and offers to join and no saves.
6 current saves are a bit below my expectations.

What's the time-limit? And saturday has 6 more hours here

Save is here.

Ok, there is no more activity show. I have only today to play and will be bizy on week days, so,

If anyone want to submit a save, this is the last chance.
You have 4 more hours!

Going one's.
Going twice.

.......

Currently we have less people then I would like, so, after first round close anyone can play but you will have to use one of existing saves.

I think 7 saves is good, since there will be attention to each save and its not too few. Perfect amount I think.

Anyways, ill probably need until thursday to play the next reound.

Ok I'll start when Round 2 is up. I'll have to pick a save...

Ok, Round 1 closed.
Summary in a order saves come in:
1) Robo Kai
Meditation-Hunting-Agreculture-Animal hasbetry-Well-Pottery-Writing(9)
Found second city. Feature plan is chariot rush.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4764753&postcount=27

2) Mutineer
Meditation-Mining-Bronze working-hunting-well-sailing-Masonry(3)
Found second city.
Plan to try to builg Great Ligthouse
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4765029&postcount=28

3) Godel

Mining-Bronze-Hunting-well- potery - animal hasbetry (7)
Most agressive second city, manage to steal gold/cooper site from Alex.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4765232&postcount=29

4) darrelljs
Meditation-Hunting-Archery-Animal hasbetry-Writing-Priesthood(3)
No second city, will attempt Oracle.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4766997&postcount=30

5) Qwack

Meditation-Well(hat)-hunting-archery-Animal hasbetry-Mining-Bronze working-
Hourseback riding(15)
No second city yet.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4767243&postcount=31

6) Ralph_Jackson
Hunting, well(hat),Mining,Bronze working,Animal Husbandry, Archery-writing(2)
no second city yet.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4769658&postcount=38

7) sooooo
Hunting-Mining-Bronse working-archery-well-pottery-writing(4)
No second city yet.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4777591&postcount=51

That all at the moment, may be some on stick in one more when I type My second round report.

On Future:
Please, write summery with cirrent state of your empire at the end of turns, so it save my time to put this kind of overview.
If you want me to edit summary to add something or correct, please post in treat.

Most notable events and state, technologies and feature plans if any.

Round 2 is 40 turns,
expected end time 625 BC.
Expected end of round : Middle of Friday.
Well evening Friday my time zone (Japan)
For many it could be start of Friday

I played second round from my save.

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After analising my own save I come to conclusion that
I do not need masonry untill I actially build ligthouse.
After analisys I decided that whiping it is not a good idea, as city now working improved ties, so it will be some time befor I need Masonry for Gl.

That desicion actially saved my hide.

So, on turn 2 research switch to Agreeculture and second prerequisit for pottery.

Argeculture-pottery-Masonry
Workers in mean time mine gold and connected gold to my empire.
Move them to chop and at this moment GL was build. So I just build roads for future chop.
Finish ligthhouse in capital-granary as I inted to whip-Great Ligthhouse(and it was build by others)

Barselona-worker -Granary.
Masonry-Animal hasbentry-Prieshood(as 3rd prerequisite for writing)

Some where there Alex declare on Washington (I had a little selebration)

Washington asked to declare on alex and I refuse.
Alex asked to declare oin washington and I want to keep Alex happy, so I agreed.

Open borders Alex/Gandy

Writing
Whiped library in capital same turn.
-Alphavit.

Alphavit come in.
Traded it + some change tech same turn to Alex for Mathematic+Politheism
Capac Iron working+archery
Gandi offer archery for it, meaning he will research it in a turn or 2

Research set to Literature.
I am ahead of Gandi a bit.

I meat Mao my last turn when discover Litherature.
Traded Litherature - Monotheism with him, getting +4 relationship for a time been.
Switched to orgonised religion.

I am Building GL and Gandy got Litherature only 1-2 turns befor.
I am thinking with Marble+OR (125% bonus) and 3 workers chopping forest
I will get it, solving my research problem for Middle Ages.

I lost one wander, not going to loose second.

Made peace with Washington by giving him Meditation
Alex made peace last turn.
So, now he is potential problem.
Some where in between produce settler, 3rd worker and 2 missionaries.
One spread buddism to alex and on just running out.
Alex refuse to convert to Buddism because he does not like as enogth.

Summary.

tech: Agreeculture-Potery-Masonry-AH-Prieshood-writing-Alphavit-Litherature
Traded(Mathematic, Politheism, Iron working, Archery, Monotheism)
Did not connect any mettals yet, live on Alex's goodness.

Our empire:


Technology situation:

Playing now, I think I forgot to put my future plans in the previous post.

EDIT: Wait, I did say my plan was to chariot rush, although on second thought that may be a bad idea.

Played from my save until 625 BC and the score is so grim I'd be surprised if I actually have a chance to beat Deity here. Well whatever save I pick the score would be bad...


Unforunately lighthouse has been built.

Plans: Build Academy (I have 2 scientists hired right now) AND build either Great Library or Great Lighthouse. Also building 2 settlers at the moment, going to fill up my land.

So what happened...
Writing is done, built a library in capital to run 2 scientists until Academy.
Settled third city in copper pig fish site.
Opened Borders with Alex Wash Mao. Closed border with Alex to trap his galley+settler between two Spanish cities. He was probably going to settle the fish and deer site on the south end of the peninsula.
Went to Alpha after writing, backfilled some old techs. (Maybe bad move due to strict WFYABTA on Deity but there's no good way to catch up, plus I needed Mining.)
Revolt to Slavery.
Going to Literature to attempt to build Great Lib. We have Marble on the south end, after all.
Currently building 2 settlers to settle 2 final sites (1. get gold + floodplains) (2. deer+fish site). third city needs improvements.

EDIT, IMPORTANT: I just noticed something wrong in the pic. Seville/City 3 shouldn't be building a worker. Worker just started, so anyone who wishes to take my game please change it to a "work boat".
City 3 has an Obelisk BTW and will expand soon enough to get the fish in borders soon.

Just a correction to your summary mutineer: I also researched bronze working after mining. Quite important, that one.