I am happy to continue. I can probably continue playing at least one turnset a week if you are happy with that. Some weeks I may have more time though and could maybe do two turnsets a week.
It is a shame the others dropped out.
True Multitreaded semi succession game, Immortal or deity.
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I am happy to continue. I can probably continue playing at least one turnset a week if you are happy with that. Some weeks I may have more time though and could maybe do two turnsets a week.
It is a shame the others dropped out.
if you go onYes, it is. Game actially shaped very interesting, don't you think so?
AI illiminate AI, Peacebuilders got walked over, all fun
Yes. Ghandi has to be next on my hitlist. Once he gets Infantry he will be difficult to stop. My big problem is lack of trading partners - having to research most things myself for a while. Hopefully WFYABTA will wear off Monte soon.
Some questions:
1. I still have 20 odd Muskets not being used and being a drain on the economy. What would you do with these? Upgrade them (expensive), use them as military police or use them as grunt soldiers in the next war (lots of casualties - bad for WW)?
2. I'm not sure about my decisions regarding National Wonders. NY is better for FB, especially if I attack Ghandi soon. With the fishing nets built next turn I could get some semi-decent production there (plus run an artists to reclaim rice). Maybe I should be building a university in Boston and after that Oxford. I have few hammers invested here so switch would not be a huge waste.
3. What would you do with the GS? Use it to lighbulb part of SciMethod (not bad because after Ghandi is done State Property could be a good civic with a spread out empire) or build an academy in Boston? I'd usually lean towards lightbulbing but in this sitaution I can't trade much tech anyway.
I really need to work on getting more friends. What is Mao and Vicky like with trading when cautious? I can't keep both happy but I should at least try to woo one of them.
Also, you mentioned that certain civ backstab even when happy. In general, who are the backstabbing civs?
I did not look on your seve yet, so I can not unswer some of your questions, but..
Muskets are still resonable units. You cna use them for defence or to increase your attack stack, to make it more resistant to collateral damage and you can use them to pick up weeker units.
Or to weeker units to keep better one's alive and promote better one's.
Personally I prefure to try to keep as many units as posible alive, simply because even week unit still increase power of your stack.
Backstubbers? I do not know Warlords one yet, but in Vanilla
Mounty is a famous one, Catty and Masta are other civ that would attack friendly and can be bribed to attack friendly. Not sure about JC.
Difference between them is that Mounty will attack anyone, even civ 150% stronger then him, Catty will want military parity and Opportunist Masta need to be mush stronger.
Generally, when religions not a factor, Warmonders and peacemonders have correspondent hidden diplomatic bonuses, making warmonders like warmonder and builders like builders.
So, it tent to be a good idea to choise between them.
If you look on my saves, you can see that a long time ago I made choise in favor of warmonders, resulting me been friendly with all 3 of them and builders generally hate me.
Muskets are still resonable units. You cna use them for defence or to increase your attack stack, to make it more resistant to collateral damage and you can use them to pick up weeker units.
Or to weeker units to keep better one's alive and promote better one's.
Personally I prefure to try to keep as many units as posible alive, simply because even week unit still increase power of your stack.
Backstubbers? I do not know Warlords one yet, but in Vanilla
Mounty is a famous one, Catty and Masta are other civ that would attack friendly and can be bribed to attack friendly. Not sure about JC.
Difference between them is that Mounty will attack anyone, even civ 150% stronger then him, Catty will want military parity and Opportunist Masta need to be mush stronger.
Generally, when religions not a factor, Warmonders and peacemonders have correspondent hidden diplomatic bonuses, making warmonders like warmonder and builders like builders.
So, it tent to be a good idea to choise between them.
If you look on my saves, you can see that a long time ago I made choise in favor of warmonders, resulting me been friendly with all 3 of them and builders generally hate me.
This is the first game I have played where I have really made use of muskets and draft. I used this in an offline game (Emperor playing Mehmed) and found this strategy very powerful.
Do you mean Mansa Munsa? I'm not sure who else you could mean. Is Nappy a backstabber?
I think this is where you have done much better than me. I traded with Gandhi for happiness but overall this may have been a mistake. Perhaps it would have been better to run 20% culture and be tech/resource trading with 2 or 3 civs rather than just Alex. It will take a long time to repair this damage.
Thanks again for your comments. I have learnt a lot in this thread.
shyuhe
Deity
Hi all, been lurking on this thread a bit. I'm not a great player by any means but I will give this game a shot too, if you guys need more players (I can pick up from Round 4 or 5 and try to catch up a bit over the weekend).
, see what you manage to do.shyuhe
Deity
Well, I picked up Mutineer's 1200 AD save. This is my first time doing deity (I was going to move up to immortal soon anyways so I figured this should be worth a try). The AI sure does love to dog pile.... I didn't really do a whole lot through 1400 AD - mostly builder stuff + drafting.
Spoiler :
No doubt I'll be joining that war soon... although I'd like to finish off Gandhi's last city before commencing that war so that I can minimize the WW from the Gandhi-war. Shyuhe,
WW is civ independent, meaning if you are in peace with Gandy, WW from war with him would not effect you when you warring washington.
We want to join motherland will, but I do not think it justify expences of doing amphibious assult on his 1 tie city.
WW is civ independent, meaning if you are in peace with Gandy, WW from war with him would not effect you when you warring washington.
We want to join motherland will, but I do not think it justify expences of doing amphibious assult on his 1 tie city.
Ok, Round 7 closed with 3 saves.
1) Mutineer..Mutineer
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4978895&postcount=158
Chemistry-riffling-steel(11)
12 cities. Prepare for war with Washington
2) Mutineer..Mutinee-Godel...Godel
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4994149&postcount=160
Chem-Riffling-Steel (11)
Finished Washington,
12 cities.
3) Mutineer...Mutineer- Shyuhe
Chem-riffling-steel(13)
11 cities, Prepare for war with Washington.
Next Round 8
20 turns
Expected end 1550 AD
1) Mutineer..Mutineer
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4978895&postcount=158
Chemistry-riffling-steel(11)
12 cities. Prepare for war with Washington
2) Mutineer..Mutinee-Godel...Godel
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4994149&postcount=160
Chem-Riffling-Steel (11)
Finished Washington,
12 cities.
3) Mutineer...Mutineer- Shyuhe
Chem-riffling-steel(13)
11 cities, Prepare for war with Washington.
Next Round 8
20 turns
Expected end 1550 AD
shyuhe
Deity
Well, I wanted to eliminate Gandhi so that it would free up Monty's hands (and Mao too) in hopes that I could get them to war with Washington. I guess it's a pretty big gamble though since they might dogpile on me instead if I declare on Washington... So be it. Peace with the stupid one tile city and on to Washington with outdated units!
I will play at least 10 turns tonight.
QUESTION: Does the "you have traded with our worst enemy" diplo penalty accumulate over time?
That is, I am trading with Gandhi and Gandhi is Alex's worst enemy. Alex has already asked me to cancel deals with Gandhi and I said no. IIRC, there is currently -2 from Alex for trading with his worst enemy. Can this increase if I continue trading, EVEN IF Alex doesn't request that I stop trading again?
QUESTION: Does the "you have traded with our worst enemy" diplo penalty accumulate over time?
That is, I am trading with Gandhi and Gandhi is Alex's worst enemy. Alex has already asked me to cancel deals with Gandhi and I said no. IIRC, there is currently -2 from Alex for trading with his worst enemy. Can this increase if I continue trading, EVEN IF Alex doesn't request that I stop trading again?
shyuhe
Deity
You have traded with worst enemy do accumulate with trading up to -4(Apply only to tech trading), but dissipitate with time slowly. Refuse to stop trading penalty never go away.
In my save I did traded with Gandy, but he was Mao worst enemy, so now I have -1 for trading from mao, but I agreed to declare war, so I do not have permanent - with him.
Yes, 1550 is a correct yer, you allways can use F8 to check.
In my save I did traded with Gandy, but he was Mao worst enemy, so now I have -1 for trading from mao, but I agreed to declare war, so I do not have permanent - with him.
Yes, 1550 is a correct yer, you allways can use F8 to check.
shyuhe
Deity
Mutineer, I just looked at your save. Man your position looks so much better than mine... I'm still missing MT and astronomy. I'm hoping to shop biology around a bit as soon as I get it but I might get screwed hard if the AI beats me to it... Did you draft all those rifles from the globe city? Or did you draft them from other cities too?
Well I drafted them from all cities I was able to, even include 2 indians one's.
You can easy see it in save if you look on unhappiness from draft.
Globe city was drafted each turn I was in Nationalism.
Tech wize I got 2 GA insted of your 2 GS, but I traded better.
I used GA to bomb left border city and saving second GA to bomb some city in Washington land I decide I need to, or maybe Indian capital, as greek culture aproach on it.
But actially war wareness fom this phony indian war preventing me form teching well, it forced me to whipe a lot of slow grow pop in ex indian land.
You can easy see it in save if you look on unhappiness from draft.
Globe city was drafted each turn I was in Nationalism.
Tech wize I got 2 GA insted of your 2 GS, but I traded better.
I used GA to bomb left border city and saving second GA to bomb some city in Washington land I decide I need to, or maybe Indian capital, as greek culture aproach on it.
But actially war wareness fom this phony indian war preventing me form teching well, it forced me to whipe a lot of slow grow pop in ex indian land.
Yes, by the look of it, decision to attack Gandy was better, as Gandy develop mach faster, as result all world develop faster.
If culture old, GA would not help you to claim any ties.
Seems we got all 3 active save fast, consider round close, I will close it properly tomorrow, when I have time.
If culture old, GA would not help you to claim any ties.
Seems we got all 3 active save fast, consider round close, I will close it properly tomorrow, when I have time.
