Cultivating a dose of Anglophilia!

Founded on the spot.

Decided to leave the religions to someone else and go for agriculture to get the capital up and running sooner than later.

Wanted to focus on scouting the area and finding other civ's cities. Will go to BW soon and play a standard opening of taking a neighbor's capital.

After Agri, I went AH, which was probably silly as I could have got a religion late, and dont really need the pigs just yet. Horses not too far.

Huts popped gold and maps.

Met USA

After AH went BW

Pasture the pigs and built mines. Built warriors and some hammers to a barracks . London up to 4 pop.

Started wheel

London to pop 5.

Buddhism finally founded by Augustus. He is my target so the shrine is ours. Hoping we get a second religion on the continent. Failing that maybe Oracle to Confucianism, should be doable with all that production.

Uncertain about the 2nd city. Maybe on the horses. Or maybe coastal for future trade routes.

Big 3 cities plan so far , London, and Rome.

Copper is hooked up soon, and with a barracks, there will be Roman blood on the ground. Very cultured.

Decided to go for religions at the expense of everything else; ran high commerce tiles, grew as fast as poss so no workers or settlers yet .

Techs: Hunting 3880(hut), Myst 3800, AH 3720(hut), HBR 3520(hut), Poly 3360 (Hnduism), Archery 3200, Masonry 2960, Mono 2520 (Judaism).
London pop 5, no worker, no settler, no tile improvements, 2 warriors and archer.

Remember: Don't read the spoiler if you're on the roster and yet to submit your game!

Its a bit confusing to know how to play this one. I think most people are aiming to grab a religion but I'm not sure that's the strongest play as early cottages are a must for a culture win, so Pottery would normally be my first tech path but it won't seem as good a start at 2400BC when I'm the only one without a religion I normally only make a go at CoL and Philosophy for founding religions as they are on the wanted tech path. Oh well, such is life and there's no trash round so...

Found in place. Certainly not the greatest starting location but hopefully that means metals. Research is Agriculture and building a worker.

Pop a hut for 81 gold and another for 25 gold.

Agriculture in and research set to The Wheel.

I meet Washington as he grabs a hut a turn ahead of me in the north.

Another hut gives me a scout.

The Wheel in and onto Pottery.

Another hut is hostile and bye-bye warrior.

Pottery in and now I would head for Code of Law but I want to grab Bronze first for some chopping.

I built the worker then a warrior in London and invested a few turns in a granary and then a settler at size 3.

I meet Mao somewhere

Settler and Bronze Working complete same turn and whattaya know we've got copper.

Nowhere really grabs me as a good second city except maybe the wheat and river south west

Augustus also turns up

And that's an attempt. Here are some pictorial evidence of my "efforts".







If I was playing on from here I'd tech Writing, Mysticism, Polytheism, Priesthood and Code of Laws and then Alphabet. I'd try and chop Parthenon in London as well.

I chased meditation+polytheism, working the lake and got both buddhism and hinduism. That's the good part.
Bad part is I lost the initial warrior and had to build another for fogbusting, making me late for settler rush, making it so that augustus beat me to the best city spot ever.
I won't submit this but the plan was to oracle CoL and lightbulb theology with a great prophet. making 4 religions to play with.

isn't much good land for big city sites.

on my continents test, the landgrab wasn't as oh-so-terrible as on inland seas. so i figured okay, i'll focus on religions and making london pretty and then sprawl out some. researched mysticism, warrior headed west to pop the hut. it gave me hunting (not bad, i might have preferred a scout but at least it got me to AH quicker so it's actually better longterm).

3720 myst comes in, and i start drooling over a great city spot. gold/cows/clams. financial clams even!! then within 2 turns i see someone's borders and i'm like "ooooooh noooooooo". it was gus, and he swapped to slavery the very next turn.

so i'm like yeah ok, i didn't think i'd need to obsess about a landgrab. but there's a city that belongs to me, not to him, and he can chop trees and he can whip. i need to get a settler there before he does! if i don't at least try i will hate myself. i actually alt-tabbed out to the calculator to figure out whether to start a settler at pop 2 or grow to 3 . if i ignored commerce on the lake, growing to 3 first was gonna cost one extra turn, but then i'd have at least a second warrior for our empire ... i hadn't even finished my first warrior yet! so i ignored the commerce i could have gotten from the lake, full speed ahead on food, got warrior #2 out to look around, started making a settler, and prayed.

somewhere in there i got 40g from a hut and founded hinduism. i started researching AH next since i had hunting (later realized i should have done agriculture first to get the double pre-req bonus ). i met washington and it actually kind of surprised me. i was sooo obsessed with "OMG must have this city" that i'd forgotten other people existed. especially since by now i'd seen wheat there. 2800 AH came in, there's horses over there by gold/clams/cows/wheat/wine/fishville TOO. that place is a mess of good cities! still nobody had founded buddhism, i wanted to research meditation but i knew that if i succeeded at that, i'd have jinxed myself at reaching the city first. so, i started agriculture.

i barely beat him ! his archer/settler was on the plains hill between the fish and the clams, the AI blue dot suggestions were on the square he was on, and the square i was on. he probably would have settled there next turn, but i'd moved on to my forest last turn so i could settle that turn, and "neener neener gus!" once i saw the wheat i decided that the harbor will give me health, who needs a fresh water bonus anyway, might as well save the fish for another city. looks like he made the other city, if one of y'all wants to like, kill him with axes for me or something i'd love to have it too .

so, i have a london with 3 people, a york with 1 person, several worker techs, but no workers at all! our army consists of two warriors, and one's not at full health. it wasn't until 5 or 6 turns after the settler was done that i remembered "oh yeah, work the lake again, you do need commerce after all!"

i met mao in 2480 and then all of a sudden it was 2400 BC already. i didn't explore hardly at all in the north, the warrior up there spent a lot of time healing. and i should have gone to over to look at gus's capital for intelligence if somebody wants to kill him, but hubby's fault of course. there's a doubleplusgood spot in the south i want after ironworking that i'm drooling over too...dyes/pigs/hills and a freshwater lake that can get a lighthouse.

i think buddhism STILL hasn't been founded! i really should have gone for it, but i'm glad i got my city *giggle*.

edit: i'll put in a picture too. is it pathetic that i gloated at a bunch of pixels on a screen?

My main empasys was as useal on scouting and general development.
It is my belive that it does not matter what victory condition one is going early on. One need to develop and find what is out there.

So, If I remember correctly I move settler on plain hill and settle next turn not in original location. It bit me in future, but that is little risk one take when moving settler from starting position.

I still like my river side industrial capital.

Research
farming-hanting-animal husbentry-bronse working-well(7)

Build-worker-scout-scout- warrior -warrior- settler(5).

Scout bouth or our neybors. Have warrior near Washington thinking worker steal, but it now too late.
Worker steal useally not a best strat on normal speed, except if target capital near by.





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my favorite thing ... i see the lovely city site and think "i'll cry if i don't get it!" mice sees gus get it and marks it "target". what a different mindset huh?

cabert: same difference, but your fourth religion would actually be judaism not christianity. the GP does mono before theology. trust me, because i had to beg wheedle and plead for hatty to trade me mono the other day, since i was dying to use my GP to found a religion and she'd already founded judaism and i needed to get it unblocked! but it would work in your world since likely nobody would have gotten mono either .

ojevind ... don't panic about the AI archers, get used to it! on monarch they start out with 2 archers, a settler, and a worker. and they know archery, but not hunting . they cheat! the worker is a big fat huge advantage.

pigswill you win the hut prize sheesh! HBR is huge from a hut. well, if you're genghis or something. but the AI does love it in trade.

mutineer: yeah i thought about moving the capital too, i wanted more river tiles. i wasn't brave enough to, since i could see some jungle west and thought there might be some east too, and/or desert east. edit: and i just about cheered out loud when i saw what the RNG gave you in "it's a scary world"

ozbenno: i'm just not confident enough to skip religions knowing it's continents. i played a deity RB event recently where literally all 7 religions were founded on the other continent! granted, it was isabella and huayna over there, and it was deity, so it's not gonna happen like that over here, but still, it scared the snot out of me. i want a guarantee that i can build at least a couple of cathedrals *giggle*. it was not fun, and i wasn't even going for a cultural victory!

three of us mentioned a 3880 hut and all 3 of us got hunting from it. it had to be that one on the hill visible from london. maybe they're pre-determined that way, if you get it that year you get a certain thing? i never knew that.