Many Leaders Game 3 - Prince Domination

@ TriviAl & all

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i replayed my first 100, but escorted the settler this time ~ VASTLY different game :)

razed 2 of shaka's cities, captured Ulundi; he still has 3 more cities, though!! unbelievable expansion, no?? I wonder if that's one of Blake's AI routines. HOwever, they aren't defended by a skeleton garrison either ~ 2 archers and an axe are the norm!!
 
@ TriviAl & all

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i replayed my first 100, but escorted the settler this time ~ VASTLY different game :)

razed 2 of shaka's cities, captured Ulundi; he still has 3 more cities, though!! unbelievable expansion, no?? I wonder if that's one of Blake's AI routines. HOwever, they aren't defended by a skeleton garrison either ~ 2 archers and an axe are the norm!!


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Yeah - I hit him in the current round - he was a really tough cookie - had to raze or capture 6 cities. If I hadn't been going flat out war focus, don't think I'd have managed it. Seemed a lot for Prince level - felt a lot harder

Think he managed to leverage that amazing capital properly. Nice to see!
 
@pholk
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Ouch :sad:
Will you play on to show us all that you can make amazing comebacks? ;)


@pawelo
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Great minds think alike!


@all
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I was pretty lucky in my campaigns, given that Shaka had only three cities, and did not settle copper yet. On top of that, Izzy had only TWO cities, and Barcelona was sorely defended by a single warrior.
 
@ Kodii
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indeed, i WILL play on, if only to see what can be done. to be honest, though, if it wasn't for the play 50 turns, then wait routine, i probably wouldn't have the gumption to keep going. Now I can come back with a plan . . . pray!!
 
Willem the 2nd

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When last we left our hero, the workers were just finishing up a copper mine north of Utrecht. Interestingly enough, the copper mine, which was adjacent to Utrecht, could not supply it with copper, although it was able to use two rivers to get said copper to Amsterdam. The plan was build Axes, tech to alphabet, trade as much as possible with Shaka and Isabella, settle near the plains gold, and then smashie smashie.

On the way, it seemed like a nice idea to get Oracle. It seemed even nicer to someone else in a far away land 2 turns before I would have gotten it. To add insult to injury, I lost a mine at Amsterdam the same turn, but was unable to save it because I didn’t get the cash from it until next turn.



I ended up continuing with the Temple of Artemis, which was built in Amsterdam in 550 B.C.



Alphabet achieved, ring up Shaka and Isabella, both think I am a heathen. They’re probably right. On the bright side, they’re not terribly fond of each other, either. I like how Isabella doesn’t have mining yet. Grabbed iron working next, right now I have literature selected, but I think I might start after the Optics techs instead.



Built about a half dozen axes and a couple of bonus spearmen, and they are poised on Shaka’s borders. Iron is being hooked up in my third settled city, The Hague (which was founded by an unescorted settler :shock:) for Swordsmen, but I’ll hopefully start the invasion with the Swordsmen still under construction.

Here is the southern map in 375, with placement of Shaka’s troops. You'll notice that he has at least one more city in the tundra down south:



And the north, with The Hague, and some indication of Isabella’s territory:



Domination percentage:



and Demographics:



I’m looking forward to the smashie smashie early next turnset.
 

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@Ozbenno
Sorry for the save. It's up in my last round post.

@Kodii & all

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I have never tried Praetorians rush before ( first time I ever play Rome ), that's why I had to play this way. When I've seen Zulus next to me getting Slavery in turn 25 or so, I understood that I must go faster than waiting for Iron.

As in your game Kodii, Zulu hasn't expanded like in the other games - it's gonna be a tough one for you guys. Anyway, should I've waited for a few more turns, it was going to become impossible.

When I attacked him, first axes were getting built in his cities. Ulundi had already four military units, not to mention other cities.

On the other hand, I felt almost sorry for Izzy. It's pathetic - starting next to Shaka, not being able to pump anything else than two archers ( one in the capital and one next to it!!! - staying on the stupid forest hill while Praetorians are coming close to Madrid ), one warrior in Barcelona and one scouting warrior...

Now it will be very funny - I have 8 cities and no CoL, no Currency and very little chances to land GLight...
 
Babylon, round 2: 2000-375 BC

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I continue to expand peacefully for the time being, researching Construction and Currency, while building workers and axes.

1720: Dur-Kurigalazu founded to block Isabella and claim gold and rice.
1520: Mathematics is in, Currency started

1200: City by the ivory founded. Just in time, Shaka had a settler only one tile away :D
1120: Gold connected, research rate 80%. Later elephants are also connected, letting me grow my cities.

575: Shaka, true to form, declares war. I have lots of axes and spears but no catapults, so I mainly defend myself for the time being.
525: Construction in, starting catapults in all cities.

With catapults I should be able to attack Shaka. Isabella is no threat, and she will be the next target.
 

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@ yena
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so far, looks we're the only 2 Shaka got the drop on ~luckily, you were more prepared than i
 
Now with 3.13 patch ( P.S. :gripe: Why did they took away the Glance screen ? ..... But I like the new Portuguese diplo music, real Portuguese Guitar and real Coimbra's Fado ( or I think so.... ) )
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Not much to say, so I'll give you the Comic book:
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Said no ( really don't need the anarchy now ), but I'll go to Buddhism if Shaka adopts a religion )

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Map375 BC
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F8
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F9 - power
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Demo screen
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Shaka spread agressively, bu not as much as I expected ( maybe heading other way ?) Izzy does not look like being expanding at all.....

Shaka is not ploting against no one ATM ( he's willing to DoW Izzy )....
Next stop: MC, forges, Collosus. Construction, cats, bye Shaka :devil:
Will settle near the northern phants ( not spetacular but has a FP to give food )

Now will check what's the fuzz about the spoilers ;)
 
also, i was test-running the patch last night when I should've been rolling out the QMs ~ i got a crash to desktop about 250 turns in. Of course, it could've been nothing, but i OD have the BUG mod installed too, so . . .

further off-topic, i was Charlemagne (in a practice game) and started on the same continent w/Shaka ~ he declared on me after about 150 turns, hasn't taken anything yet, but also won't take peace for less than a city!! dang AI!
 
We've now moved to rounds shorter than 1 week? Maybe I can get this played on Saturday. What is the consensus on whether we move to 3.13, I have a dual install but don't want to switch for important games such as this since there might be some horrible bugs lurking.

I guess this round is to be played with 3.02 still?
 
I will paly 2 turnsets (2000BC - 375BC) tomorrow to resynch with the game.

There are some concerns with patyching being expressed and I would rather not rush into patching if there is no consensus.

Ralph
 
Just noted Alan is asking GOTM / SGOTM players not to patch yet in the GOTM Forum so I will hold off pacthing
 
Is anyone else gettign a CTD when they open the Ctrl Tab thingy?

I had BUG on, now it's off and I'm still getting the crash, before and after patching.
 
I read about someone having this problem on your Pharaoh game, mice.

It seems that patching isn't bug free, uh? :trouble:
 
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Put off playing this for several days. Basic choice was chasing Glight and expanding slowly or axe-rush Shaka. In the end I decided to go for the axe-rush. Kept the two cities I had at the beginning of the round, they built nothing except axes. 20 of them in fact, of which 8 have died so far. Shaka had quite a few axes as well as impis and archers. Declared war about 900bc, captured three Zulu cities, looks like there's two remaining (copper city and new founded city).


Meanwhile my workboat was exploring up north, there's a lot of islands up there and no obvious link to another continent (though culture bridges could appear later I suppose).
Techwise its been pretty slow which is hardly surprising, picked up IW and Compass for Cothons which might help the economy. Great Lighthouse still hasn't been built anywhere, so that's one to consider.
 
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