Nobles Club III - Kulai Khan

I think I'm still on track for a diplo win, but am frustratingly short of being nominated for the AP vote - let alone winning it. I can adopt everyones favorite civic, execept Victoria, whos just been DoW by Ragnar. Think I'll pile in and ask Toku to join in - get this hes, popular and likes other people too! The pop should come in handy as will the diplo + with the AIs.

I'm teching well, and trading and stealing a few techs too. Economys ok but still need to expand on to those crazy islands. Guess which wonder I got with MC - late as well. Won Lib and took RP! Got a GS just before starting lib and bulbed him on PP and did the last 4 turns myself. I wanted him to bulb Lib, but he didn't like the idea, nor the one about 5 turns later. bah!

Interesting times. Oh yer look out for a stupid mistake. Where's Wally style. He's there somewhere.....

Picture time.

Goodnight Mr Wang.


Ragnar DoW on Freddy so I pile in and kill him before Ragnar can get his cities!


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Cheeky monkey!


Finally found Iron - Keshics meant I could wait till my economy was ready!


Take a barb city and keep it. Its a nice commerce site - lots of food out here in the islands - maybe Sids if it goes that far - Space or UN.


Steal some tech.




Nuff said.

Found a city....


.... and another. Notice the lines I drew? Counting sea tiles etc. Morai maybe?


We say yes. Not sure why. I guess mainly the diplo hit would be to much.


We say no. Justin can bog off. With Toku and Ragnar on side who cares what he thinks. All he does in the AP is try for the diplo win. Which does
work! Ummm...


Very late mids!


One last city for the moment.


Graphs etc are here,
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6669466&postcount=123

Yer thats true. I was looking for a more peacefull game to conrast other peoples games! Well peacefullish. mwhahaha....

I guessed I'd probably Vasselise Vic in a war anyway. When I get the report up you'll see the big buddist lovein we got going on with Justin at the Helm! Got to say its quite a fun game and my army has barely flexed it muscle yet! Only a couple of turns to rifling.....

Also I'm loving the map! Its pretty interesting with all those islands to our west. I've just started to realise how good they are and I'm starting to settle them. How close to what the RNG gave you is this map?

Cities. I tweaked them after this screen was taken. Doh!


Glance. If you look closely the obscured numbers are, top to bottom +13 and +11. I think.


Tech


AP


WTH happened to Ragnars culture? Did he bomb a Great Artist?


Power. Vic took a chunk out of him!


Demo. Doing ok here. Will soon have a second decent millitary site, in the iron/jumbo city.


Capital. Iron works me thinks! Why change the wonder whoring of a life time?! That sea sure does look shinny! Also popped gold here so lost a hammer, but thats ok for the gold!


Forbidden Palace. Wangs old Capital. Oxford with some spy action. Wish I was building this else where in retrospect. Maybe I should change Berlin - my GP farm into an espionage city? and make this pure science? Help!


Final look at my empire. I'll place a city down at the end of the road by the fish/fur.




Sorry about the long report, but it ws a long set! So can I get a Diplomatic vicory here? I reckon its possible, but I'd love some advice!

If you check the settings you'll see why... Pangea with natural shorelines normally produces some decent sized islands and some inland seas/big lakes. it is a nice variation of the ( boring ) oval shaped pangeas

I've played up to about 1650AD, and I'm at war with Queen Vic - miserable old hag!

See built the AP but doesn't control it, has 3 cities left - one is pretty marginal in some desert - and has lost 4 cities to me. Razed 2 and refounded one, others are Cristian holy city and London. Ragnar is at war with her and Toku just made peace. Despite me voting No for stop the war and winning the vote he took peace a few turns later.

Now She really hates me but will capitulate to me, but I don't think I want her. Shes not popular with my 2 main Allies so I want to stay in their good books, but I'd like to avoid her capitulating to anyone else! I'm not sure I have the impertus to take her last cities, and I'd like to leave her as a dilomatic punch bag.

This isn't really a question post, more a little update. That being said, if I bribe Ragnar to peace would she capitulate to him if I take peace too? I don't really know how voluntary vassalage works.

Also will having the highest AP votes mean that during the next election I'll be a candidate, given that I didn't build it?

If all goes well this game might be wrapped up by tomorrow evening! Or not if it goes to UN or space.....

I wouldn't have given in to Ragnar over Education, he has many positives with you you can afford the odd -1 you refused to help us, he'd still be friendly

Your right of course. After the event I thought stupid decision. I keep doing this kind of thing. You pointed out a similar trade in my last - Ramesses - game as well! You'd think I'd learn given thats the point of these games....

Early tech was: Agr(found in hut)/Min/Arch/BW/AH
Build order: Worker, Archer, Archer, Settler, Archer, Worker, Settler, Barracks, Axeman



I settled north-northeast of the copper to get some space between me and Wang. The second city is the one east of the horses.

After I had the copper connected I build an axeman and with that and two archers I decided to try to kill Wang while he had neither copper nor horses. As I found out, he didn't have archery either so I was able to take Seoul and a few turns later his second city. It was still a size one so it was destroyed.

Friedrich is angry because I attacked his now dead friend Wang. Seing that he hasn't connected his copper yet, I want to try to take out the city there and Hamburg in the north.

The technology I'm researching is iron working just in case somebody is wondering.

I was able to take two of Friedrichs citiies but the Berlin proved to strong for me. Luckily he accepted a truce while I was connecting the horses and bringing in some new axeman.
I had to destroy the city east of Berlin next to the copper twice but he never did connect the copper and luckily didn't find the iron to the north of Berlin. So I took Berlin and built a new city next to the iron.
Next step could be a little difficult. I want to take Victoria next, she is the only one who isn't neutral. Seems she was friends to both Wang and Friedrich. But all of the others share buddhism so I don't know how they will react to an attack.





I'm not that happy with the cash flow but I got Code of Law with the Oracle and plan on building courthouses at least in the commerce cities.

Yeah! Worked like a charm. Victoria had only archers at first so used the flank promotion a lot an wore them down before taking them down completely.
Luckily Ragner and Toku took the chance and attacked Justinian while I was busy with Victoria. So the three weren't interested in bothering me and couldn't take the chance to leave me behind in the tech race.
When Victoria got the first spearmen ready, my first swordmen started arriving. Never had any real trouble removing her from the game.

By now I began to have some real trouble with the cash flow. Research was at 10% at the most. I still had no currency so no chance to build some market places or wealth.

So I decided to try and take down Toku while my army was still up to date and really experienced.

I got some trouble remembering, which cities a took when. I offered him a peace treaty in exchange for construction after taking one or two of his cities, which he took. I used the 10 turns to build me some catapults. I saw by than, that he had built some cities on the islands, so I decided to just trow him of the continent and make peace after that.

Now I'm trying to connect all my cities and get them up to spec. Maybe I can get my research up to 30 or 40%. Techwise I'm as far as the others. Feudalism is universally known, so I have to reserach a bit before taking the next step.

Never had as much time as I thought I would have because Ragnar decided to attack me. I was researching Civil Service at that moment and was able to set the research slider to the maximum and promote some of my swordmen to macemen. Took me some time to gather the forces for an attack after beating off his attacks. Luckily he didn't have Engineering, so could still use my Keshiks.
I built a nice stack of catapults to wear down his defences and his longbowmen before going in with the Keshiks and maceman. I discovered guilds in between so I could promote my best Keshiks to knights.

War weariness is hitting me pretty strong by now but I want to finish off Ragnar while he is still researching Engineering. My knights will be pretty useless when he get some pikemen.

Domination Victory. I had to leave Ragnar with two cities, because I don't have a fleet.
I had to wait and research for some time because Justinian had discovered Engineering. No more easy victories with my knights.
I waited till I had Rifling discovered and dropped my science rate after that. I used the money (something like 600 gold per round) to promote my macemen, archers, longbowmen etc..
Was really angry when Haitabu switched to Justinian before my new army was ready.

After the discovery of Rifling it was pretty easy. He didn't even have gunpowder till the last city I took.