Organized +City States = -130% maintenance?

catquiet said:

Is there any upper limit to inflation or does it keep going up as long as you keep playing?

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• Turns = the lesser of (The game turn + 1/2 the elapsed turns) or the maximum turn. I think that the maximum turn is unused in this mod.
• Added to the above value of Turns is the inflation offset. If less than 0, then the inflation rate is 0. Inflation offsets by speed:
  • Marathon: -270
  • Epic: -135
  • Normal: -90
  • Quick: -60
• for a human player, the InflationPerTurnTimes10000 equals the inflation percent due to game speed times the inflation percent from handicap /100
  • Marathon: 10
  • Epic: 20
  • Normal: 30
  • Quick: 45
  • Settler: 50
  • Chieftain: 55
  • Warlord: 60
  • Noble: 65
  • Prince: 70
  • Monarch: 75
  • Emperor: 80
  • Immortal: 85
  • Deity: 90
• The inflation modifier is the sum of any inflation modifiers from events (presently, all such events appear to be + or - 3)
• For a non-Barbarian AI player, the AI inflation modifier is (the AI inflation percent, by handicap * the maximum of 0 or (the current Era * the per era modifier + 100)))/100. The inflation modifier is the inflation modifier + the AI inflation modifier - 100 Note Eras are still used for religions - this may be a defect!
  • Settler: inflation percent: 90 per era modifier: 0
  • Chieftain: inflation percent: 85 per era modifier: 0
  • Warlord: inflation percent: 80 per era modifier: 0
  • Noble: inflation percent: 75 per era modifier: 0
  • Prince: inflation percent: 70 per era modifier: -1
  • Monarch: inflation percent: 65 per era modifier: -2
  • Emperor: inflation percent: 60 per era modifier: -3
  • Immortal: inflation percent: 55 per era modifier: -4
  • Deity: inflation percent: 50 per era modifier: -5
• Then InflationPerTurnTimes10000 is multiplied by (the higher of 0 or 100 + the inflation modifier) / 100
• Finally, the rate percent (the actual inflation rate for a player) is (Turns * InflationPerTurnTimes10000 / 100) + (Turns * (Turns - 1) * InflationPerTurnTimes10000 * InflationPerTurnTimes10000) / 2000000

int CvPlayer::calculateInflationRate() const
{
	int iTurns = ((GC.getGameINLINE().getGameTurn() + GC.getGameINLINE().getElapsedGameTurns()) / 2);

	if (GC.getGameINLINE().getMaxTurns() > 0)
	{
		iTurns = std::min(GC.getGameINLINE().getMaxTurns(), iTurns);
	}

	iTurns += GC.getGameSpeedInfo(GC.getGameINLINE().getGameSpeedType()).getInflationOffset();

	if (iTurns <= 0)
	{
		return 0;
	}

	int iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 = GC.getGameSpeedInfo(GC.getGameINLINE().getGameSpeedType()).getInflationPercent();
	iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 *= GC.getHandicapInfo(getHandicapType()).getInflationPercent();
	iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 /= 100;

	int iModifier = m_iInflationModifier;
	if (!isHuman() && !isBarbarian())
	{
		int iAIModifier = GC.getHandicapInfo(GC.getGameINLINE().getHandicapType()).getAIInflationPercent();
		iAIModifier *= std::max(0, ((GC.getHandicapInfo(GC.getGameINLINE().getHandicapType()).getAIPerEraModifier() * getCurrentEra()) + 100));
		iAIModifier /= 100;

		iModifier += iAIModifier - 100;
	}

	iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 *= std::max(0, 100 + iModifier);
	iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 /= 100;

	// Keep up to second order terms in binomial series
	int iRatePercent = (iTurns * iInflationPerTurnTimes10000) / 100;
	iRatePercent += (iTurns * (iTurns - 1) * iInflationPerTurnTimes10000 * iInflationPerTurnTimes10000) / 2000000;

	FAssert(iRatePercent >= 0);

	return iRatePercent;
}

Thanks xanaqui42. That comes in handy to understanding how to handle inflation. I suppose the best way to handle it is to reduce your costs in general, and inflation will be reduced.

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Ahriman said:

Poor analogy. Yes, MOO3 was a terrible game. But it was a terrible game because it was far too complex to understand (or for the AI to understand). It was bad because it had too many variables, not because it let you access those variables.

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Ahriman said:

Think of it this way; if MOO3 had been exactly the same game but had suddenly taken away your ability to change 1/3 of the variables, this would have made the game even worse.

If it had been a manageable spreadsheet, that would be one thing, but when it is a spreadsheet where you can't tell what effect you're having by tweaking a couple of variables....

Terrible game design, just terrible. I also really wanted to like the game and followed the development fairly closely, and bought it as soon as it came out. Damn, that game sucked....

I guess I should have been able to see this beforehand; "You can do anything, you just can't do everything" is a terrible game design ethos. No-one wants to be ineffective, or to have to fight an inevitably sub-par AI for control of their empire.

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Ahriman said:

Eh? There is *nothing* you can do to reduce the inflation rate.

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