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Niklas · Dec 19, 2008

Here's some general score information about this game:

Technology give (2000/334 * era) points each (that's true for all games btw). That's ~5.99 per tech in this stage, rounded down. So right now all teams have either 17 points (3 techs, like us) or 23 points (4 techs) from techs.

Wonders give 5000/310 ~= 16.12 points each, rounded down (also true for all games). Right now all teams have 16 points from this, for the Palace.

Population gives 5000/918 ~= 5.45 points each, rounded down. This is not true for all games, it depends on the total amount of food on the map. 918 is pretty low, which is consistent with a Highlands map. All teams would have 10 points from this at this point.

Land gives 2000/1897 ~= 1.05 points each, rounded down. This is directly dependent on the number of land tiles. But you don't get points for a tile right away, you have to put culture on it for 20 turns to cash in. So all teams got their number of land tiles in the inner 9 as points the last turn.

Niklas · Dec 19, 2008

After team 5, Mad Scientists, the average number of soldiers dropped to 12000 from 12500. In other words, a total drop of 2000 over the four teams - Mad Scientists lost a warrior on their turn.

All other numbers as before.

Niklas · Dec 19, 2008

An update to our knowledge base:

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Team 1 - Elizabeth of England / Kazakhstan

Land: X+7 in BFC, 7 in inner
Pop: 2
Techs: (Fishing, Mining,) Agri, Bronze Working
Score: 56 = 16W, 23T, 10P, 7L

Likely settled on a plains hill, started building worker.

Team 2 - Darius of Persia / Saturn

Land: (14-X)+6 in BFC, 6 in inner
Pop: 2
Techs: (Hunting, Agri,) Fishing, AH
Score: 55 = 16W, 23T, 10P, 6L

Building warrior until Fishing, then WB.

Team 3 - Willem of the Netherlands / SANCTA

Land: 14 in BFC, 6 in inner
Pop: 2
Techs: (Fishing, Agri,) Mining, Bronze Working
Score: 63 = 16W, 23T, 10P, 14L

Settled on a plains hill, built a WB first. Creative so their borders expand faster, so they now has 20 turns of culture on all their 14 BFC tiles, hence their score lead.

Team 4 - João of Portugal / Cavaleiros

Land: 15 in BFC, 8 in inner
Pop: 2
Techs: (fishing, Mining,) Agri, (Bronze Working soon)
Score: 51 = 16W, 17T, 10P, 8L

We're the only team with only 3 techs, hence our lower score. I just put us in as a sanity check.

Team 5 - Pacal of the Mayans / Mad Scientists

Land: 17 in BFC, 8 in inner
Pop: 2
Techs: (Mining, Mysticism,) Bronze Working, ??
Score: 57 = 16W, 23T, 10P, 8L

Started building warrior.

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We'll know the land tiles for teams 1 and 2 in a few turns when they get points for the full BFC. I might have missed what tech Saturn and Mad Scientists researched after their first, will have a look later on. EDIT: It was AH for Saturn. Still don't know MS, but it wasn't a tech that gave any soldiers. Agri or Fishing is likely.

Renata · Dec 19, 2008

Good to know we're not the only ones to have a run-in with a bear.

Let's hope Saturn loses their scout, too.

Niklas · Dec 19, 2008

I've done some analysis over the shifts in power levels ("Soldiers" demographics). It's actually possible to get an completely accurate prediction of everything that has transpired so far, using demographics and score together. However, there was one thing that was a bit hard to track down, since we didn't have complete information on scores from turns 15 and 16.

To all future turnplayers, please ensure that the scoreboard is shown in one of your screenshots from the turn! :old:

Here's the breakdown on shifts in power levels:

Spoiler :

There are theoretical chances that this is not correct, more teams could have lost warriors and others built them instead on the same turns. But I think we'll leave that as theoretical.

Niklas · Dec 19, 2008

I'm going to repeat Renata's and oyzar's pleas for someone to log in between the other teams' turns to grab shots of the demographics. It would really really increase our chances to get accurate readings. I'm going to bed now, but if some American is awake and around...

oyzar · Dec 20, 2008

Thanks niklas, was wondering how that score worked... It is pretty obvious from score that team 5 have 8, team 1 have 7 and team 2 and 3 have 6 tiles each in small fat cross.

Having ras as turnplayer is great as he'll get the score in there wether he likes or not due to his resolution

RRRaskolnikov · Dec 20, 2008

Renata said:
Good to know we're not the only ones to have a run-in with a bear. Let's hope Saturn loses their scout, too.

That was a funny "episode" :lol:

Joshua will get his ... kicked by his teammates :lol:

@Oyzar:

just when you say that, I am about to play the turn from another computer... I will take a screenny of the score though

edit for demo numbers of turn 23:

Spoiler :

Cheers

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

Kazakhstan grew to size 3, hence their +6 points and the changes in population demographics.

Saturn finished a tech, hence their +6 points. They also got +4000 soldiers, so either they finished TW, or they finished Mining or Sailing and built a warrior. My guess is the former. It would be useful to look over the GNP/MFG/CY to see if that's feasible. Any volonteers?

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

No changes in demographics or score after Mad Scientists', Kazakhstan's or Saturn's turns.

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

I played around a bit with our own tile allocations to see when the ranks changed, here's what I got:

Current GNP: 25, 22, 21, 17 (Total 85, Avg 21)
Current MFG: 5, 5, 3, 1 (Total 14, Avg 3)
Current Crop: 13, 12, 9, 4 (Total 39, Avg 9)

RRRaskolnikov · Dec 20, 2008

new numbers after our turn

(#24):

Spoiler :

@Oyzar: the big resolution is back

!

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

No changes at all from before.

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

No changes after MS turn either.

Niklas · Dec 20, 2008

Scores changed due to teams 1, 2 and 5 getting points for their second-ring tiles. Kazakhstan and Saturn got 7 each, sum 14 as we already knew, but now we know each separately. Mad Scientists got 9, just like we knew they would. :smug:

We will get 7 next turn too, reclaiming our top spot.

oyzar · Dec 20, 2008

Ras please please please edit your played turns post to include the demographics info, and PT please include the missing scores in your posts, that makes it sooo much easier for us keeping track of things...

RRRaskolnikov · Dec 20, 2008

oyzar said:
Ras please please please edit your played turns post to include the demographics info, and PT please include the missing scores in your posts, that makes it sooo much easier for us keeping track of things...

I always posted demographics info in this thread, but if it's easy for you in the played turn thread, no pb

oyzar · Dec 21, 2008

Well doesn't really matter where it is as long as it is all in one place, however the played turns thread isn't cluttered by discussion.

Niklas · Dec 21, 2008

After my recent bout of analyses I must agree with oyzar. Having it all in a neat row uncluttered by discussion in between is so very valuable. So please if you would.

Niklas · Dec 21, 2008

Spoiler :

Team SANCTA's borders reached third tier predictably, getting another 12 land tiles inside their borders (14->26). No other changes.

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