BioNES: Paddling in the Gene Pool

@PL: would it be possible to branch my C. Funghoid into a detrivoid species (keeps existing) and a new parasitic form later in evolution?
A bit like this:

C. Funghoid ===>>> Funghoid Detrivoris
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...................\===>>> Funghoid Parasitis

Thus the original C. Funghoid will evolve normally but will get a parasitic brother??

of course

Psychic don't go away I am just about to post my evolution and I think you will like it. Or possiblely disapprove of it and send me back to the drawing board.

Name: Amoeba Aggregatus Complex or complex amoeba that aggregates.
Ancestor: Amoeba Aggregatus
Description: The A. Aggregatus Complex is even more unusual than its ancestor. How you ask? Well it is not one species as such. Instead A. Aggregatus Complex is a group of different amoeba that, on their own, are not particually effective. One might be light sensitive but lack in pesudopods etc. However as a whole they are effective, large, killing machines that are coordinated by chemical signals with the ability to break up into smaller wholes as only certain cells can aggregrate. These cells are called node cells and they coordinate the cells around them and are in turn coordinated by a large central node cell, a brain. This species has also evolved the first projectile weapon as certain cells known as 'killing cells' have the ability to manufacture and eject digestive enzymes that attack cell membranes and destorys them while the amoeba absorbs the wreakage. Node cells only break away when an amoeba is has a large threat of being killed and act like escape pods. After awhile the node cells will become central node cells and form their own amoeba.
Complexity: Single cellular protozoa containing level 2 pesudopods and level 1 stomach vacuole, level 2 chemical signals, level 1 natural adhesive, level 1 natural solvent, level 1 light sensitity and level 1 projectile degestive enzymes.
Habitat: Warm shallows to prey on anything that is alive.
Eats: Canivore
Locomotion: Pesudopods.
Behaviour: Aggressive and predatory. Chemicals signals are used for basic communication and electic signals for more complex and faster messages.
Energy: A fair amount is used to fuel all the differen parts and make chemicals. These guys are a real treat if you manage to kill one without it breaking apart.
Reproduction Methods: Mitosis. Effective but slow.
Population: ?
Origin: Warm shallows
Adaptation Summary: (10 DNA)
Cell membrane x1
Pesudopods x2
Carivore (stomach vacuole) x1
Chemical signals x2*
Natural adhesive x1
Natural solvent x1
Digestive enzymes x1*
Light sensitity x1*

Is this ok Psychic?

very very interesting idea there Vert

there are a couple of issues though:
- because its still techinically a single cell you wouldnt be able to develop a nervous system as such. you could however make Chemical Signals lvl 2, which would achieve the same thing as what you describe. in order to get a true basic nervous system you would need to be multicellular.
- ligh sensitivity is the same as the 'Eye Organ/Organelle' gene

EDIT: i already have ideas on what this beasty will look like

Actually what is stopping neural pathways from forming after the cells join together? Psychic don't forget I am playing as a unique being that is both single celled and multi celled and I believe it is more than possible for this to take place. My evolution will spend almost its entire life in a colony with other cells around it. Also light sensitivty is not the same as an eye but it is the genetic forerunner to the eye. If any species has a functioning true eye at this stage in evolution I may be more than a bit annoyed as eyes are complex things that need a brain to process the information and form an image. Light sensitive cells simplely detect changes in light.

NB: If you have read the Swarm, which is an excellent book and highly recommended, I have two words for you. Think Yrr. For those who have not read the book DO NOT google Yrr as it will ruin the book for you. Read the book instead.

PS In fact my amoeba have become multi celled in all but the most extreme circumstances when a node cell may possiblely, in theory, let the cells joined to it go.

Actually what is stopping neural pathways from forming after the cells join together?

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the need for a mylean sheath around nerve cells and said nerve cells to form nerve nets which leade to a central clump of nerve cells called a ganglion in more primitive organisms... the organism is just on too small a scale to develop such things. stick to chemical Signals and receptors for now. it achieves the same thing that you aretalking about anyway.

also im not talking about actual eyes. level 1 'eye organells' are eyes spots, light sensitive patches which is what you are talking about.

I hope this is by the rules.

Here's the next step in the evolution of C. Funghoid. As a result of some mutation C. Funghoid splits in a detrivoid species (Funghoid Detrivoris) and a parasitic species (Funghoid Parasitis). As they have the same ancestor they are quite similar. However Funghoid Parisitis is able to enter a multicellular host and settle within it. Funghoid Detrivoris did some adaptions but stays basically the same.

I think I may add 3 DNA to both (PL? yes?)


Stats for Funghoid Detrivoris:

Name: Funghoid Detrivoris
Ancestor: Cellulacea Funghoid
Description: F. Detrivoris is very similar to its ancestor C. Funghoid, except that it has developed a defense system against predators by secreting poisonous enzymes via its membrane. Ofcourse these poisonous enzymes are harmless to F. Detrivoris.
It also has developed enhanced cilia (lvl 2) on its outer surface which help it direct its movement and escape predators.
F. Detrivoris has also enhanced its exo enzymes (lvl 2).
Complexity: single cellular
Habitat: Shallows
Eats: Dead organic material
Locomotion: Cilia (lvl 2)
Behaviour: F. Detrivoris does not display much behaviour other than a strong attraction to dead organic stuff.
Energy: F. Detrivoris generates energy by absorbing organic material
Reproduction Methods: Binary Fission (the cell divides into 2). Basic form of reproduction.
Population: Depending on the amount of food available, should be booming if there's plenty!
Origin: around volcanic vents, later moved to shallow waters.
Adaptation Summary: (6 DNA)
-Cell Membrane
-Organic Material Absorption (Lvl 1)
-Cilia (lvl 2)
-Exo Enzymes (lvl 2)
-Poisonous Enzymes (lvl 1)


Stats for Funghoid Parasitis:

Name: Funghoid Parasitis
Ancestor: Cellulacea Funghoid
Description: F. Parasitis is very similar to its ancestor C. Funghoid, except that it has developed the ability to enter a host via Cell Penetration. It also has developed enhanced cilia (lvl 2) on its outer surface which help it direct its movement and find its host.
It uses masking enzymes to prevent from being attacked by its host defense system.
Complexity: single cellular
Habitat: Shallows
Eats: Parasite on living multi-cellular creatures
Locomotion: Cilia (lvl 2)
Behaviour: F. Parasitis does not display much behaviour other than a strong looking for hosts
Energy: F. Parasitis generates energy by absorbing organic material
Reproduction Methods: Binary Fission (the cell divides into 2). Basic form of reproduction.
Population: Depending on the amount of food available, should be booming if there's plenty! It'll die when its host dies.
Origin: around volcanic vents, later moved to shallow waters.
Adaptation Summary: (6 DNA)
-Cell Membrane
-Organic Material Absorption (Lvl 1)
-Cilia (lvl 2)
-Exo Enzymes (lvl 1)
-Cell Penetration (lvl 1)
-Masking Enzymes (lvl 1)

Next step in the Funghoid family tree is multi-cellularity but that will be after the update.

OK Psychic I have changed to just chemicals for now but I am keeping light sensitivity as true 'eyes' are unlikely to form in this kind of lifeform. Maybe later when I start to clump cells that do similar jobs together I might form an eye. Eg all the light sensitive cells are grouped together and act together, along with a node cell, to allow black and white vision. That's a little way off yet though. BTW Psychic my current amoeba can become macroscopic if enough aggergate together. Or at least I assume the can.

EDIT: Arian I don't think three evolutions in one turn are allowed. I think two is the limit and you have to get a bonus in order to evolve two.

No problem. Consider them my contribution for the next turn

Yeh Arian you can only have 1 evolution per turn unelss you win a reward that says otherwise, but even then your second evolution cant be evolved from your own species you can obviously keep those evolutions for later turns but so far only cellulacea funghoid is in the next update

OK Psychic I have changed to just chemicals for now but I am keeping light sensitivity as true 'eyes' are unlikely to form in this kind of lifeform. Maybe later when I start to clump cells that do similar jobs together I might form an eye. Eg all the light sensitive cells are grouped together and act together, along with a node cell, to allow black and white vision. That's a little way off yet though. BTW Psychic my current amoeba can become macroscopic if enough aggergate together. Or at least I assume the can.

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Ok thats all good thanks for that

Psychic_Llamas said:

Yeh Arian you can only have 1 evolution per turn unelss you win a reward that says otherwise, but even then your second evolution cant be evolved from your own species you can obviously keep those evolutions for later turns but so far only cellulacea funghoid is in the next update

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Post 102 says otherwise about evolving a parasitic form

Anyway I keep Funghoid Detrivoris (see post 108) which evolves normally from C. Funghoid.

Post 102 says otherwise about evolving a parasitic form

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you didnt specify you wanted all 3 species in the same turn its fine for over several turns but is too much for 1 turn. sorry for the confusion

No problem. C. Funghoid it is for this turn

Hey guys, sorry for my inactivity of late. what with xmas and new years and all, not to mention the distractions from xmas pressies (YAY Wii Fit!) and lack of motivation. to try make up for this for the next update (update 4 that is) im going to let everyone make 2 species with no limit on who you can evolve it from. im working on update 3 now so it shouldnt be too long, (im trying to write it without inspiration so wish me luck lol)

I'm not sure about the others, but I don't mind you taking your time.

EDIT: Actually, can I evolve something from the Gelu Militis?

Name: Gelu Militis
Ancestor: Cellulacea Militis
Description: Species along the lines of the Gelu Militis were already evolving as warriors to compete with each other. However, the "invasion" of the Trodophi Siccus-Militis naturally triggered greater adaptations in the older species in the area. The Celluacea Militis continously attacked their new rivals, and many died in battle. However, new adaptations would emerge.

The Gelu Militis evolved through an evolutionarily untenable but useful transistion stage often called the "Proto-Gelu Militis", during which it had sharp but unwieldy weaponary. However, it managed to evolve out of this into a stage capable of survival in a timeframe of evolutionary significance.

Complexity: Single-celled
Habitat: Cold shallows (as cold as it can survive in, anyway), preferably near Volcanic vents but less dependent on them. Also, any ocean areas where it can survive, warm or cold.
Eats: Partially photosynthetic, partially mineral absorbtion, partiallly eating other cells
Locomotion: Cilia
Behaviour: Social species, generally working together against Cellucea Gelu and other Cellulacea Militis, as well as Trodophi Siccus-Militis. It attempts to kill them to get rid of competition. When attacking Trodophi Siccus-Militis, generally one attempts to sneak up on it and create a hole using a precision strike, which others can exploit.
Energy: this is both how much it needs to survive (appetite/metabolism), as well as how much a predator would get from eating it.
Reproduction Methods: Binary Fission (the cell divides into 2)
Population: I’ll do this bit
Origin: Cold waters, near the border with land and the Trodophi Siccus-Militis
Adaptation Summary:
-Cell Membrane (Lvl 1)
-Mineral Absorption (Lvl 2)
-Photosynthesis (Lvl 3) via chloroplasts
-Cilia (lvl 1)
-Mass Reproduction (lvl 3)
-Cold Resistance (lvl 1)
-Weapons (Lvl *5)

Name: Amoeba Communis Aggregatus Davidus (some archeologist named it after their son- a comparable incident happened in OTL, after all)
Ancestor: Amoeba Communis Aggregatus
Description: Unlike the A.Communis Aggregatus, the A.C.A.D (Amobea Communis Aggregatus Davidus) attempts to catch prey by surrounding them with adhesives. By this method, it is able to suck onto it's prey from several directions and digest it (also taking advantage of it's small size when detached). It also has some degree of Cold Resistance, taking advantage of it to move into cold shallows when the situation fits it.

A.Communis Aggregatus Davidus is also a more efficent predator (able to get more energy from the same prey), and has weaponary to some degree to back up their psuedopods (optimised for multicelluar combat).

Complexity: Single cellular protozoa containing level 1 pesudopods and level 2 stomach vacuole, level 1 chemical signals, level 1 natural adhesive and level 1 natural solvent, as well as level 1 cold resistance and level 1 weapons
Habitat: Shallows and oceans in general
Eats: Carnivore
Locomotion: Pesudopods.
Behaviour: Aggressive and predatory. Chemicals signals are used for very basic communication.
Energy: Not a huge amount of energy to survive more than a Cellulacea Chlorophyta but they move slowly and do not need much to live. When aggregated they need more energy to survive.
Reproduction Methods: Mitosis. Effective but slow.
Population: ?
Origin: Cold shallows near land
Adaptation Summary: (9 DNA)
Cell membrane x1
Pesudopods x1
Carivore (stomach vacuole) x*2
Chemical signals x1
Natural adhesive x1
Natural solvent x1
Cold Resistance *x1
Weaponary *x1

Psychic_Llamas said:

Hey guys, sorry for my inactivity of late. what with xmas and new years and all, not to mention the distractions from xmas pressies (YAY Wii Fit!) and lack of motivation. to try make up for this for the next update (update 4 that is) im going to let everyone make 2 species with no limit on who you can evolve it from. im working on update 3 now so it shouldnt be too long, (im trying to write it without inspiration so wish me luck lol)

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OK

For turn 3: Cellulacea Funghoid

For turn 4: Funghoid Detrivoris and Funghoid Parasitis

See post 108 for details

Good luck with the update

Going to branch some! Sorry if inconvienent.

Name: Gelu Durus (Strong)
Ancestor: Cellulacea Gelu (Gelu means Cold in latin)
Description: Gelu Durus begun to form a multicelluar structure that attracts T. Siccus-Militus, the lesser of the two evils, and a stronger cell wall structure. Overall it is shaped like a buckyball with inside cells and a few tendrils searching for a place to anchor down. Spreads with ejection of colony cells to colonize new areas. Gives off fruit with tough seed cells for long range protection by T.Siccus and their migrations.
Complexity: Multicellular, with basic specification. (tentril V.S. light cells)
Habitat: Shallows, preferably near Volcanic vents but less dependent on them. Prefers warmer shallows but willling to go out from them as far as it can survive.
Eats: Partially photosynthetic, partially mineral absorbtion.
Locomotion: Cilia
Behaviour: Harbors T. Siccus-Militus because it is less aggressive and it protects it from Gelu Militus (Ladybugs!). Tries to form large colonies.
Energy: Low Motabolism High Appetite. slow tentrils help it inch to warmer or colder areas.
Reproduction Methods: Binary Fission to replace damage, Ejection of baby cells from inside the sphere for the growth of new ones.
Population: I’ll do this bit
Origin: A small way from the volcanic vents of Cellulacea Chlorophyta's origin.
Adaptation Summary: (8)
-Cell Membrane (*Lvl 2)
-Mineral Absorption (Lvl 2)
-Photosynthesis (Lvl 2) via chloroplasts
-Cilia (lvl 1)
-Mass Reproduction (lvl 1)
-Cold Resistance (lvl 1)
-"Multicelluar Structure (find better if possible)(lvl 1)"
- "Fruit (lvl 1)"

Fine- I don't mind branches of my own species. But the description doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win.

Neverwonagame3 said:

Fine- I don't mind branches of my own species. But the description doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win.

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How do you think you are gonna win?

By eating all the other species? And then when there's no species left you start eating your own species? You filthy cannibal!