Dune Wars Screenshots Thread

Deliverator · Oct 9, 2009

I would like to start a thread where people regularly post their Dune Wars screenshots for a couple of reasons.

1. For fun. It's a good way for newcomers to get a feel for the mod, and for current players to share their experiences.

2. For promotion. It would be really handy to have some good screenshots to upload to other sites and elsewhere on Civfanatics in order to promote the mod more.

Screenshots of any part of the mod are welcome, with or without explanations. You can show off how much you are winning or losing, or just highlight something you think is particularly cool.

Screenshot Tips

+ When you press Print Screen to take a screenshot it will automatically be saved to your My Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword/Screenshots as a JPG file.

+ Keyboard shortcuts to help you take nice screenshots:

ALT-I : Hide Interface
CTRL-I : Minimize Interface
CTRL-Left Arrow/Right Arrow : Rotate camera in 45 degree increments
SHIFT-Left Arrow/Right Arrow : Rotate camera in 15 degree increments
CTRL-Up Arrow/Down Arrow or SHIFT-Up Arrow/Down Arrow: Tilt the camera up or down
CTRL-Home : Return to Default Rotation & Tilt

+ To attached a screenshot to a post you can just use the Manage Attachments link or the paperclip icon.

Who will be first?

davidlallen · Oct 11, 2009

Updated city screen screenshot

Deliverator · Oct 21, 2009

Bump. Come on, they don't have to be a work of art or anything. Just having a handful of screenshots to showcase the new version 1.6 would be nice...

Ahriman · Oct 21, 2009

I will add some when I get a chance, but next few days are busy.

Slvynn · Oct 21, 2009

Ok here is my screenshots from 1st 1.6 game - Atriedes, Arrakis, Leto II, Beeline to Quizerate, blooming economy and Tleilaxu which come and crush me with huge superior military.
Lesson - don't neglect army even if you are superior in technology, and scout alot.

Spoiler :

Slvynn · Oct 22, 2009

Well , another immortal game, that went veeery smoothly at start, but then Feyd came and .....
What i like in DW that if you want big empire you should care about all its parts defence, because if you leave some weak defence in middle , that the thing which may happen *looks at screenshot*

Slvynn · Oct 24, 2009

Another game i playing on deity and winning - All our Landsraad party declared on Harks and we have nice dogpile while cities go to me. In front of you - my glorious Imperial Militia forces.

Deliverator · Oct 24, 2009

I think I need to remove the Great Wall of China from Arrakis...

Slvynn · Oct 24, 2009

Yep it looks odd, indeed.

keldath · Oct 24, 2009

I think I need to remove the Great Wall of China from Arrakis...

totally...
i forgot to mention this,

i ran into some nice reskined wall in some mod , and i used it on one of the early dune wars.

Deliverator · Oct 25, 2009

I don't think we should even have a big wall like this at all. There is nothing like it in the books. The Shield Wall is just a mountain range really. If we want an equivalent wonder to the Great Wall we can use a place of refuge like the Cave of Birds, or perhaps some advanced missile/lasgun system.

Ahriman · Oct 25, 2009

I think I need to remove the Great Wall of China from Arrakis...

I agree, as mentioned in the Wonder thread, it doesn't make much sense. It prohibits worms and smugglers from entering your terrain, which is kinda illogical.
Its a gameplay issue, the effect doesnt' make much sense.

The_J · Oct 25, 2009

In the film, the headquarter has a energy shield. Okay, the great wall does not really look like it, but the effect fits.

Deliverator · Oct 25, 2009

Well, that's what our Force Shield using the Arcology graphic is meant to represent.

Slvynn · Oct 25, 2009

The_J said:
In the film, the headquarter has a energy shield. Okay, the great wall does not really look like it, but the effect fits.

That wall as i understand used for Town shield, which was brown once and now it's blue

Ahriman · Oct 25, 2009

Right. The force shield protects an individual city; it can't stop anyone from entering your entire cultural borders.

Slvynn · Oct 26, 2009

This is what wll happen if someone will talk too much (Roma Attani status - DEAD)

Those rushes are very nasty, and i am kicking immortal small map game.

Btw such rushes are hard to counter for non-(aggressive or protective) ai.
Her soldies were wondering and she had just 2 soldiers in her own land. But thats not matter. Even if she had 3 soldiers in each:
Improved shields promotion can be very nasty in hands of rushing human player. (total +30 % str with barracks and Agg trait, against only existing military type units at start of the game - guardsman) (so call it - game breaker)
May be - to deny such incredible rushes, improved shields promotion should be aviable bil later in game.
May be all specialisation promotions (vs UnitClass) should come after certain tech being researched. (or just add special tier 3-4 tech?)
Agg leader with improved shields and cheap baracks = no chance of survival for not -agg.
Only existing units at start of game are guardsmans, so by using pretty obvious and stupid move Agg leader who promotes with Improved shields - early civ killer. One game i killed 3 ais with this.

Ahriman · Oct 26, 2009

.... stop playing highly stocked small maps. That way, it takes longer to walk to your enemy.

But anyway,
Soldier with combat 1 and improved shields = strength 2.6 vs guardsmen
Soldier fortified in city with 20% cultural defense and no promotions = 3.9
(I forget what the soldier bonus for city defense is - 50%?)
Win probability of 3.9 vs 2.6 = HUGE.

So you will need at least 2:1 odds, maybe more.
And if they have an Infantry unit.... strength 5.7 or so?

And if your rush fails, then you have wasted a ton of time in the early game building barracks and units instead of expanding.

Besides, how is this different from vanilla? Does shock have a tech requirement? I forget, haven't played it in forever.

Also; at high difficulty levels, shouldn't the AI be getting free promotions? Or is that only in FFH?

Slvynn · Oct 27, 2009

No, 1st you making wrong maths.

Soldiers have +25 % defence in city, and cultural defence possible is 20%, so its 2.9 vs 2.6, but in city. Ai wonders, and on land its just free promotion for you.

2nd i never wasted a rush. It woking always.

3rd its small map, and its not quite hightly stocked. Distance was 8 tiles from my culture to her closest city culture. Also standard maps causing CTDs, so perhaps i need to put back 1.6.1 version.

4th i think AI gets promotions for free in FFH

5th
dont compare to vanilla, because its very wrong thing to do - there are 3 types of units that aviable early at game, and they different progression of defence capabilities , strengt and time.
In DW some early part of game is just guardsmen.

6th
i think that fixing production costs of ALL units will lighten this .

Ahriman · Oct 27, 2009

Soldiers have +25 % defence in city

Ok, like I said, I wasn't sure if soldiers were 25% city defense or 50% city defense.
Maybe we should increase the soldier city defense bonus to 50%?

Your math is also wrong though; you're forgetting thr 25% defensive bonus from fortification.

Distance was 8 tiles from my culture to her closest city culture

this is a *very* small distance. On a standard map, in the early game you are normally looknig at 15+ tiles.

dont compare to vanilla, because its very wrong thing to do

Why not?
We don't need to make early rushes any harder than they are in vanilla.

there are 3 types of units that aviable early at game, and they different progression of defence capabilities , strengt and time.

Soldiers are warriors, infantry are archers, quads and thopters are basically chariot/horsearchers, bladesmen are basically swordsmen/axemen.

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