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quibing · Oct 13, 2009

I am a little confused. That these leaders in CUSTOM LEADERS adds 2.71? Or is it a modmod?

zappara · Oct 13, 2009

quibing said:
I am a little confused. That these leaders in CUSTOM LEADERS adds 2.71? Or is it a modmod?

Originally they were part of the Mega civ pack but I moved them into the main RoM because one of the goals is to get at least 2 leaders for each civ. So RoM 2.71 full mod has those leaders included.

quibing · Oct 13, 2009

zappara said:
Originally they were part of the Mega civ pack but I moved them into the main RoM because one of the goals is to get at least 2 leaders for each civ. So RoM 2.71 full mod has those leaders included.

Ok. Thank you. This means that basic hosting where you have filled in the modification, I downloaded 2 times its incomplete form. These leaders was not. Perhaps the problem with me. Thank you for your reply.
And 1 question, Do you plan to trim or change the power units in the modern era in 2.8?

zappara · Oct 24, 2009

Version 2.8 notes:

Spoiler :

Afforess · Oct 24, 2009

- Changed: Walls fVisibilityPriority 1 -> 1000 so that they should remain visible around the city all times
- Changed: High Walls fVisibilityPriority 1 -> 1000
- Changed: Barbwire Fence fVisibilityPriority 1 -> 1000

Thanks Zap, that really bugged me.

Hydromancerx · Oct 24, 2009

Gamedefines
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- Changed: BASE_SPY_STEAL_PLANS_COST 100 -> 1000
- Changed: BASE_CITY_GROWTH_THRESHOLD 25 -> 30
- changed: CITY_GROWTH_MULTIPLIER 2 -> 10 (cities grow slower)
- Changed: ROUTE_FEATURE_GROWTH_MODIFIER -50% to -25% (forests have higher chance to spread even when plots have routes)
- Changed: OVERSEAS_TRADE_MODIFIER 100 -> 50
- Changed: FOREIGN_TRADE_MODIFIER 150 -> 100
- Changed: TECH_COST_KNOWN_PREREQ_MODIFIER 20 -> 8 ( define * OR tech preregs), example if tech has 3 OR prereqs, knowing all those three before researching this tech gives 3*8% = 24% bonus to research speed. At maximum this is now 5*8% = 40% (Monarchy) instead of 100% as it was with default BtS value
- Changed: TECH_COST_TOTAL_KNOWN_TEAM_MODIFIER 30 -> 50 ( (define * how many met alive rivals know this tech) / the amount of all alive civs = added to research modifier), example: (50*5 known civs) / 10 alive civs = 25% bonus to reseach speed. What this means is that techs already known by others can be now researched faster making it harder to get ahead of other civs in tech race (effect is about twice as much as with default BtS value)
- Changed: WAR_SUCCESS_CITY_CAPTURING 10->25, AI now feels more like it's winning/losing based on city gain/loss
- Changed: UNIT_UPGRADE_COST_PER_PRODUCTION 3->1, upgrading unit costs now less

So that's why its so much harder. Your cities don't grow as fast and your techs take longer to research (at least to get ahead). You're a sly one Zap.

Flay · Oct 24, 2009

I tried to look for it but didn't found it ( not very smart indeed).
What are the difference between 2.8 and 2.8 lite ? :blush:

zappara · Oct 24, 2009

Flay said:
I tried to look for it but didn't found it ( not very smart indeed).
What are the difference between 2.8 and 2.8 lite ?

Lite doesn't have new wonder movies and new (modular) leaders. Otherwise it's exactly the same mod.

Flay · Oct 24, 2009

was 2 late

Grunthex · Oct 24, 2009

Quick question, since I wanna finish my 2.71 game before I play this.

Did the BTR80 change make it live in 2.8? You had tried it out, and I thought I read somewhere that it wasn't gonna stay in, but it's still in patch notes.

cr0ws · Oct 24, 2009

Ahhhh 2.8 is finally out! At least 1 thing went good today! thanks Zappa!

Good idea using torrent for downloading, these corrupt files issue was a bugger in itself.

Preytor · Oct 24, 2009

Question:
Do the all the scenarios in Rise of Mankind\PrivateMaps work with RoM2.8?
In particular Earth 18 preset civs, Huge?

zappara · Oct 25, 2009

Grunthex said:
Quick question, since I wanna finish my 2.71 game before I play this.

Did the BTR80 change make it live in 2.8? You had tried it out, and I thought I read somewhere that it wasn't gonna stay in, but it's still in patch notes.

That change didn't make it to the live version. Patch notes corrected.

Preytor said:
Question:
Do the all the scenarios in Rise of Mankind\PrivateMaps work with RoM2.8?
In particular Earth 18 preset civs, Huge?

They should as nothing has changed from v2.71 to v2.8 that would affect those scenarios. Though I haven't tested them out so if you find any problems please report them in the v2.8 feedback thread.

quibing · Oct 26, 2009

Zap! 1 question. Units have been set up under 2.71 will work under 2.8? Or need to re-copy-paste settings from new CIV4UnitInfos.xml?

Supercheese · Oct 26, 2009

quibing said:
Zap! 1 question. Units have been set up under 2.71 will work under 2.8? Or need to re-copy-paste settings from new CIV4UnitInfos.xml?

Well, the <iPower> tags for basically all units have been re-calculated for 2.8, so any 2.71 units will need to have them changed accordingly.

New formula for iPower is: (old)iPower ^ 1.3 = (new)iPower, IIRC.

blade117 · Oct 26, 2009

Torrent question, Could someone possibly upload the mod without a torrent, because I find torrents to be incredibly slow and also my laptop rarely has internet (only during academic day) so that would slow it down even more. Otherwise, any help?

Supercheese · Oct 26, 2009

blade117 said:
Torrent question, Could someone possibly upload the mod without a torrent, because I find torrents to be incredibly slow and also my laptop rarely has internet (only during academic day) so that would slow it down even more. Otherwise, any help?

RoM 2.8 has already been uploaded to non-torrent download sites.

See: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8581141&postcount=2326
And: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8581435&postcount=2328

quibing · Oct 26, 2009

Supercheese said:
Well, the <iPower> tags for basically all units have been re-calculated for 2.8, so any 2.71 units will need to have them changed accordingly.

New formula for iPower is: (old)iPower ^ 1.3 = (new)iPower, IIRC.

Ok. Thx.

zappara · Oct 27, 2009

Supercheese said:
New formula for iPower is: (old)iPower ^ 1.3 = (new)iPower, IIRC.

Actually the new formula is Str ^ 1.3 = iPower.

blade117 · Oct 27, 2009

Thanks

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