Rise of Mankind 2.8 Feedback and bug reports

NBAfan · Dec 3, 2009

BUG V. 2.8 with hotfix installed.

I noticed a bug. Scientific research gets a boost after regenerating map a couple times. It started at 11-12 beakers and now I get almost 1 beaker each time I regenerate. I'm playing with Henry VIII (sci-ind) and Siamese Empire.

I think this is a known bug with BTS.

duane1947 · Dec 3, 2009

I have 2 problems...running 2.8 full and the first week or two of games everything was fine...all of a sudden it hits a point where after a few turns, it says "memory allocation faulty" and ctd.....learning to manually save every other turn.....down loaded the patch last night, installed it this afternoon and when I loaded the rom.... no snail speed and after giving up trying to start a new game...went and tried to start a saved game....screen froze and finally got a pop up that said runtime error....ctd.... to top it off, like a real dumb shot I didn't back up my rom before I overwrote the patch files into it.....
help?

Dancing Hoskuld · Dec 3, 2009

duane1947 said:
I have 2 problems...running 2.8 full and the first week or two of games everything was fine...all of a sudden it hits a point where after a few turns, it says "memory allocation faulty" and ctd.....learning to manually save every other turn.....down loaded the patch last night, installed it this afternoon and when I loaded the rom.... no snail speed and after giving up trying to start a new game...went and tried to start a saved game....screen froze and finally got a pop up that said runtime error....ctd.... to top it off, like a real dumb shot I didn't back up my rom before I overwrote the patch files into it.....
help?

You can't load saves from RoM 2.8 into 2.81. You may also be having a cache problem, try deleting it. The easiest way I have found to do that is to load plain BtS (or any non-RoM mod) and then load the new RoM.

duane1947 · Dec 3, 2009

Fantastic....will try that asap....or maybe pdq and let you know... Kind of figured that was the problem with the new patch .. that part is really ok, was getting really ticked off at Dido hitting my coast every time I wasn't looking :-)

Thanks for sharing.

afa2000 · Dec 4, 2009

NBAfan said:
I think this is a known bug with BTS.

It's not. I think I found where lies the problem. Just tried regenerating 5 times at the following configs:

BTS normal game - OK, no bugs

RoM with non-scientific leader - OK, no bugs

RoM with scientific leader - that bug keeps happening.

My guess: the 15 % scientific trait bonus stacks every time I regenerate the map.

azuil · Dec 4, 2009

azuil said:
Thanks, although I haven't tried the civic yet,

Yeah, i tried that and saving and opening works (even opening the savegame directly from windows).

~~I haven't tried this yet; but i'm downloading RoM 2.71 right now. Maybe that helps...~~

Nope, that also doesn't work. Game crashes while loading. (And i was going so well with this game :S)

Again; the logs attached...

*bump* (sorry... but it's a big one for me...)

Flay · Dec 5, 2009

The patch is intalled now, and I just wonder we did a test in MP (without much hope), but we got OOS only when attacking barbarian, animals, or other CIV. I amnot sure since we didn't play much the 2.8 in MP but was it only when attacking or allso when defending that OOS occure in 2.80 ?
Anyway any news on a fix for that OOS in MP?

zappara · Dec 5, 2009

os79 said:
So there! My computer did play your megaciv in 2.71 just fine. I just removed what civs I did not want and extracted the PAK art to their proper folders.

os79 said:
Well, it seems that only Argentina crashes my game every time I clicked on it. I went ahead and deleted it from Custom Civilizations folder.

Zappara, and others, you might want to test whether or not removing Argentina works for you. I have to test STARTING an actual game and will report back later...

I just verified that Argentina civ works correctly in the megapack (started game with it). Because you unpacked the fpk files you might run into problems because the fpk files contain some of the old leader files that were replaced in mega v1.7 with new ones - these new ones are in the modules folders in unpacked form so if you unpack fpks some of the files these new leaders have will get overwritten with wrong files (causes animation problems -> CTDs). Below is the picture of game started with Argentina and its leader Peron (which by the way has new graphics).

Basically you shouldn't unpack the fpks if you don't know how the modules are structured and what are new files and what not. If you unpack the fpks, you must unpack them to some other location first, then check from the megapack's files what leaders where updated and then remove the old files from the files you just unpacked and then copy the new files to exact same locations - it's quite complicated process, I know, which I don't recommend this process to anyone as you will probably just end up getting CTDs and then complain here... I've said, I'll try to provide individual civs as downloads but that will take time and most likely not sooner than on xmas holidays.

I couldn't update the fpks this time because that program doesn't seem to work in Windows 7.

os79 · Dec 5, 2009

zappara said:
I just verified that Argentina civ works correctly in the megapack (started game with it). Because you unpacked the fpk files you might run into problems because the fpk files contain some of the old leader files that were replaced in mega v1.7 with new ones - these new ones are in the modules folders in unpacked form so if you unpack fpks some of the files these new leaders have will get overwritten with wrong files (causes animation problems -> CTDs). Below is the picture of game started with Argentina and its leader Peron (which by the way has new graphics).

Basically you shouldn't unpack the fpks if you don't know how the modules are structured and what are new files and what not. If you unpack the fpks, you must unpack them to some other location first, then check from the megapack's files what leaders where updated and then remove the old files from the files you just unpacked and then copy the new files to exact same locations - it's quite complicated process, I know, which I don't recommend this process to anyone as you will probably just end up getting CTDs and then complain here... I've said, I'll try to provide individual civs as downloads but that will take time and most likely not sooner than on xmas holidays.

I couldn't update the fpks this time because that program doesn't seem to work in Windows 7.

It seems a simple process. Long but simple. Thanks for the tip and sorry for seeming to be disrespectful before. I did not know what I know now.
Thank you for your patience. Now to my work unpacking and doing proper way. What you just described above can be done easily using Move function because it will tell when I want to overwrite. I will just say no. Then If I run into problems. I will systematically investigate it. If I fail to find solution, I will PM instead of broadcast here.
Again, apologies.

zappara · Dec 5, 2009

os79 said:
It seems a simple process. Long but simple. Thanks for the tip and sorry for seeming to be disrespectful before. I did not know what I know now.
Thank you for your patience. Now to my work unpacking and doing proper way. What you just described above can be done easily using Move function because it will tell when I want to overwrite. I will just say no. Then If I run into problems. I will systematically investigate it. If I fail to find solution, I will PM instead of broadcast here.
Again, apologies.

The leaders that have new graphics in Megapack v1.7 are listed in the Megapack's readme file. Check the changelog from there.

I just uploaded v2.81 patch which is specifically made for Rise of Mankind 2.8Mega. You can download it from here. Do not use this patch for RoM 2.8Full or RoM 2.8Lite.

os79 · Dec 5, 2009

zappara said:
The leaders that have new graphics in Megapack v1.7 are listed in the Megapack's readme file. Check the changelog from there.

I just uploaded v2.81 patch which is specifically made for Rise of Mankind 2.8Mega. You can download it from here. Do not use this patch for RoM 2.8Full or RoM 2.8Lite.

Take a mental note to ask for precise process for a new skill next time

.

Your tips worked beautifully! Now I have all civs in my RoM

.

For you people who need to unpack, here is the process, it is really simple (embarassing simple):

Be sure to have all the civs extracted to Rise of Mankind/Assets/Custom Civilizations if you hadn't done it before.
Make a new folder on the desktop (Art is a good enough name as it will be a very temporary folder anyway.)
Now, unpack all four fpk to that new folder. (I checked to make sure there are no overlapping files in these fpks myself so you don't have to check. No overlapping, so unpack without fear)
Now, click and open that folder. There you will see the folder named modules. Click it once.
See up and see the menu Edit, click it.
Click Move Folder.
Go to Rise of Mankind/Assets in the pop up window. And click OK.
Now when it ask to overwrite Module folder, say yes.
Now when it ask to overwrite any other folders, click no. (Use the checkbox to do the same for all folders)
Now when it ask to overwrite files, click no. (Use the checkbox to do the same for all files)
Now, just toss that Art or whatever you named that folder into recycle bin as you don't need it anymore. In there are old files irrelevant to the civpack of this day and age .
Now go to Rise of Mankind/Assets/Modules and find the jar file. Double-click it and wait for the Java window to pop up. Just close it after it opens since it just did its job.
Now play!

For you who don't play with Afforess' AND, do what Zappara say about the patch for the megaciv. For the rest of you who does use the AND, don't bother since only real difference between regular patch and megaciv patch are the python files for building paths that use callbacks. (Zappara, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

, I was wrong before so I can be wrong again.)

luckxor · Dec 5, 2009

Greetings to everyone. I'm getting this error in each turn.

error in techAcquried event handler < bound method
Bugeventmanager on.techaquried of>

<Bugeventmanager bugeventmanager instance at 0x048 1EA30>>

Eddi · Dec 5, 2009

Hi, I have a problem:

I am running Caste (-50% growth for cottage, etc.), but my cottages and mines won't grow at all.

Am I missing other factors that reduce growth? -100% seems a little extreme.

little_cyclone · Dec 5, 2009

Eddi said:
Hi, I have a problem:

I am running Caste (-50% growth for cottage, etc.), but my cottages and mines won't grow at all.

Am I missing other factors that reduce growth? -100% seems a little extreme.

Just to eliminate the obvious, you are working them, correct?

Elucidus · Dec 5, 2009

So does this work with PTBS? Because i can't seem to get it to work. My computer crashes and my wife's is OOS when she tries to join.

Gomer_Pyle · Dec 6, 2009

I get a CTD when trying to launch/host starts a MP session with 2.81 (when it should start loading). It is a XML error about some leaderhead wilhelmina or something. Game minimizes to desktop and just disappear after a few seconds...

My friend with the same files can start it ok. Cannot find anything in any logs either. Also SP sessions is working just great. :S

I am running Windows7 Ultimate 32bit with game patched to 3.19 and blue marble and I am running RoM 2.81 + A New Dawn (But I get the error with vanilla RoM 2.81 too.

Error ingame says

XML Error: TAG:Leader_Wilhelmina in Info class was incorrect. Current xml file is modules\custom\leaderheads\wilhelmina\wilhelminadiplomacyinfos.xml

It seems like there is several error windows on top of eachother. I think it may be the custom leaderheads. Marked in red in the spoiler below

Here is bottom of my xml log:

Spoiler :

Content in crashdump:

Spoiler :

Edit2: Help I am getting this on RoM 2.71 too. Gonna attempt a complete reinstall now. But I fear it has to do with Windows7???

Edit3: After complete reinstall of game and only running 2.71 I am still getting XML error and CTD when launching a mp session. Arrgh. Gotta be win7 since it worked well for me in Vista. And yes I have installed everything with admin rights...

Edit4: I have attached my crashdump incase any people with knowledge have time to check it out...

Eddi · Dec 6, 2009

little_cyclone said:
Just to eliminate the obvious, you are working them, correct?

yes, when i don't work them they say "must be worked to grow", and when i do work them, they stay on "15 turns to grow to hamlet" eternally

[EDIT:] i just checked, and confirmed they start to grow as soon as i switch from caste to tribal.

JaeChunDaeSung · Dec 6, 2009

I must say (without sounding too discontent), knowing what King Sejong looked like, the standard LH is nothing like him. I had found a far better design elsewhere, so I'll look it up again, with the hope that in future versions, this is used instead. Just hoping to help make even tiny little details like the appearance of leaders be more appealing and at least close enough.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=11237

This should be it.

Erii · Dec 6, 2009

afa2000 said:
BUG V. 2.8 with hotfix installed.

I noticed a bug. Scientific research gets a boost after regenerating map a couple times. It started at 11-12 beakers and now I get almost 1 beaker each time I regenerate. I'm playing with Henry VIII (sci-ind) and Siamese Empire.

Pretty sure this is because of the +1 science/city that scientific gives, but it is a bug.
I'm guessing it would be even worse with advanced start and regenerating map (1 science/city) I haven't had much time to playtest theories on what exactly causes this yet, but I'm guessing that even if you lose a city, you'll still get +1 science from it. If anyone can test that, I'd be interested in the results.

JAZBONE · Dec 7, 2009

Following up on my postings of 11/14 (#315), 11/22 (#403) and 11/28 (#479), there seems to be a bug associated with the Mass Media tech. In the game I am currently playing, I get a CTD within one or two turns after achieving this tech, the crashes occurring as I select a new project in a city window. Crashes do not seem to depend on the particular building or wonder selected to build. After each crash I backtrack and select a different tech to research. The game proceeds normally until I select & achieve the Mass Media tech and again get a CTD one oe two turns later. Anyone have an idea as to what is going on?

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