So Islam is a religion of peace?
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Which of the thousands of different Islams are we talking about, here?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Nope. It's just another religion(s).
Islam in general.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
It's impossible to characterise Islam-in-general as either peaceful or violent, tolerant or intolerant. Far too much internal variation.
Islam according to the Quran?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
There is no single literal reading of the Qur'an.
Cato the Elder
King
Subject to a lot of different kinds of interpretations.
Islam ranges from the pacifist Ahmadiyya to the extremely violent Qutbism. It all depends on which verses and the like you find most important, because you can prove a ridiculous amount of things based on a religious text.
Well, that isn't good. Some guy I know is saying that Islam is a violent religion and I'm trying to argue against him.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Ask him if he thinks a hammer is a murder weapon.
Come on, man. Any religion or idea could be used for violence.
There's your argument
Cato the Elder
King
Just look up some things about the more pacifist tendencies within Islam and you'll have some solid counterproof. Pretending violent Islam doesn't exist is daft; there are more than enough people who commit horrendous atrocities in the name of Islam. The strength of your argument lays in that you should explain that Islam isn't necessarily violent, and that more Muslims profess a non-violent faith than a violent one.
Yes! That's great! Can you provide me with some?
Farm Boy
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I think Cato already has your back. Try looking up some more on these guys?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
My point exactly
Cato the Elder
King
Ahmadiyya are not considered Muslims by some other sects of Islam, however. Sufism is another interesting one to look up; because of its esoteric nature it tends to be inclined towards the peaceful although there has been violence amongst them I believe. The Alevis are also interesting and worth looking up.
I get the impression Sunni Islam is, on average, more violent than Shi'a Islam as well.
Is the OP asking for evidence that Saladin was a fairly enlightened and progressive ruler?
Perhaps your perception of Sunni Islam is coloured by Wahhabis and Salafists.
And perhaps your perception of Shia Islam is coloured by the Islamic Republic.
Shia Islam is kinda like Christianity with their obsession with martyrdom and persecution and charismatic divinely-appointed religious leaders and such.
Also, in before The Usual Suspects.
