vegetarian

Ovulator · Mar 24, 2006

my fiance has been vegetarian for 3 years, and i've always sympathized with the vegetarian cause. 5 days ago i decided to make a half-assed attempt to stop eating meat, and haven't in the last 5 days. which is a big deal because before it was hard to me to go 1 meal without eating meat.

anyone else here vegetarian, how long? experiances? tips and or advice? another problem of mine is that there isn't alot of vegetables i like.

Bozo Erectus · Mar 24, 2006

Ovulator said:
another problem of mine is that there isn't alot of vegetables i like.

Hmm, a vegetarian that doesnt like vegetables. Houston, I think we have a problem.

Masquerouge · Mar 24, 2006

I never understood people becoming vegetarian other than for medical reasons.

I mean, if it's to protect animals, know that harvests kill millions of animals every year.

MrCynical · Mar 24, 2006

I think you're definitely going to have trouble if you don't like many vegetables. You need a wide range of them to stay in any semblance of good health as a vegetarian.

Ovulator · Mar 24, 2006

Bozo Erectus said:
Hmm, a vegetarian that doesnt like vegetables. Houston, I think we have a problem.

well i wouldn't call myself a vegetarian yet, as this experiment will probably explode before i get to orbit, but maybe i'll just have to aquire a taste for vegetables? yesterday i had a vegie sub with subway with cheese, lettuce, tomatoe, green peppers, pickels and spinach. i don't like the latter three, but the sandwich was actually pretty good with all those things combined.

Ovulator · Mar 24, 2006

Masquerouge said:
I never understood people becoming vegetarian other than for medical reasons.

I mean, if it's to protect animals, know that harvests kill millions of animals every year.

but thats more on the animals stupidity, like road kill, but i still drive.

Masquerouge · Mar 24, 2006

Ovulator said:
but thats more on the animals stupidity, like road kill, but i still drive.

Yeah but if people did not harvest crops, less animals would die.

So why do you choose to change your eating habits to save some animals, but do not care about others that will be harmed by your new eating habits ?

Ovulator · Mar 24, 2006

Masquerouge said:
Yeah but if people did not harvest crops, less animals would die.

So why do you choose to change your eating habits to save some animals, but do not care about others ?

because i'm not going to go harvest my own wheat. and it's not the intentional killing of animals, those animals chose to run into that combine. i've seen a squirrel explode on power lines but i'm not going to stop using electricty.

Sidhe · Mar 24, 2006

Alot of animals owe there continued existence to meat eaters, it's an odd relationship we have with prey, but if we don't preserve them, farm them and or cull them then they tend to die out or fare less well, wild boar being a good example, in britain the wild boar died out but it's ancestor the domesticated pig lived, why? because we hunted one to extinction and farmed the other for food, kind of a sad inditement of man and his relationship with his prey. That said I think being a vegetarian isn't about the great things not eating meat achieves, it's more of a political statement(or just a distaste for meat) lets face it if the hard line vegies got there wishes, Cows pigs and sheep would become wild animals there populations dwindling extensively, ironic but true.

I think your in trouble mate, I'd stick with meat, your girlfriend will understand I'm sure. After all she's not left you before because you eat baby sheep or whatever.

Masquerouge · Mar 24, 2006

Ovulator said:
because i'm not going to go harvest my own wheat.

Oh, but you used to kill yourself the animals you ate ?

Ovulator said:
and it's not the intentional killing of animals, those animals chose to run into that combine. i've seen a squirrel explode on power lines but i'm not going to stop using electricty.

I'm sure they do. I mean, I'm even sure that birds build nests in the fields just so that their newly-hatched offspring can get squashed by the harvester.

luiz · Mar 24, 2006

And let's not forget that when agriculture grows, it usually advances into previously wild areas and many animals lose their habitat and die.

There is no way for humans to live on this planet without killing animals.

Ovulator · Mar 24, 2006

@sidhe

i'm fully aware that alot of these animals can thank their existance on us eating them. but the whole concept of taking a life bothers me. the urban sprawl that is killing off these animals habitats and eventually, them, also bothers me, but that is a much more difficult issue to tackle. i know my fiance understands, i'm not doing this in an attempt to keep her or anything, shes already locked down.

El_Machinae · Mar 24, 2006

I'm (mostly) a vegetarian for ecological reasons (I have a smaller footprint if I don't eat meat, because a lot of land is used to raise meat (if you include their feed)) and for economic reasons (the price of grains and vegetables are elevated because we feed so much grain to cattle). I figure the earth is more sustainable if people consume less meat, and more people can afford food if grain and beans are cheaper.

There are a lot of foods that have vegetarian options: pizza, sandwiches, lasagna, chili, etc. As well, I've read that if you try a food 35 times, you will develop a taste for it (might as well start trying things like olives, etc.).

For nutrition, try to learn something about protein - because that will be your weakness.

Narz · Mar 24, 2006

I'm been vegetarian and mostly vegan for the last three years. I feel pretty good.

My advice is to try lots of variety. Try new fruit and vegetables, nuts, seeds, grain every week when you go shopping maybe, play around with recipes and see what you like.

Also, does your girlfriend have a juicer? Juicing is awesome, it's so much better than the bottled pastuerized juice you get at the store. There are so many different varities you can try, it's such a good feeling getting that nutrition straight into your blood stream especially after a long day when you're run down and thirsty.

My favorite right now is chard, fennel and apple juice (the three together) but I switch up once in awhile.

It's cool that you are your girl are in this together. My girlfriend now is vegetarian too. Good luck! :thumbsup:

Narz · Mar 24, 2006

El_Machinae said:
For nutrition, try to learn something about protein - because that will be your weakness.

The best sources of protein are plant based - the algae's (chlorella, spirulina, blue-green algae), wheatgrass, hempseeds, etc.

We really don't need THAT much protein anyway. Eat too much protein and you damage your kidneys and leech calcium from your bones.

El_Machinae · Mar 24, 2006

Diversity will be the key. The biggest issue is that fruits and veggies don't last for very long (and often need preparation), so you'll find yourself shopping quite often.

I'm leery of the soy 'fake meat' products, but it's only a hunch that there's something wrong with them.

El_Machinae · Mar 24, 2006

Where do you get algaes?

I try to get 30g-50g of protein a day, and it's not so hard.

Narz · Mar 24, 2006

Also, for those who say "you can't win" because by eating crops you're still using up land that would ordinarily been the habitat of wild animals what you don't consider is - the vegetarian animals that you eat (cows, chickens, pigs, etc.) eat far more crops and take up far more space than a vegetarian human so you are creating much more damage ecologically speaking.

Exceptions would be if you only ate wild caught fish or hunt your own meat. Eating free range grass-fed beef is also much better (for your health as well) than factory farmed beef.

Narz · Mar 24, 2006

El_Machinae said:
Diversity will be the key. The biggest issue is that fruits and veggies don't last for very long (and often need preparation), so you'll find yourself shopping quite often.

Well techincally stuff like apples and sweet potatoes stay fresh longer than a cut of meat. A root (like a potato) may actually stay "alive" and start growing little leaves on your kitchen counter.

El_Machinae said:
I'm leery of the soy 'fake meat' products, but it's only a hunch that there's something wrong with them.

I'm not a big fan of soy myself but used in moderation I don't think it's bad at all. "The China Study", the most large-scale dietary study of all time, shows that the Chinese, with their limited meat consumption and moderate soy consumption had less instance of many diseases than most Americans. I personally would use qunioa or brown rice instead of soy.

El_Machinae said:
Where do you get algaes?

I try to get 30g-50g of protein a day, and it's not so hard.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=spirulina&hl=en&btnG=Search
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=chlorella&hl=en&btnG=Search
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=blue-green+algae&hl=en&btnG=Search

Masquerouge · Mar 24, 2006

Narz said:
"The China Study", the most large-scale dietary study of all time, shows that the Chinese, with their limited meat consumption and moderate soy consumption had less instance of many diseases than most Americans. I personally would use qunioa or brown rice instead of soy.

Frankly, what country doesn't ?

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