Religion->Cultural victory

FrostK

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Required start conditions:
1. Desert start. (Nice tundra start in theory should also work, but it is quite rare)
2. A lot of space around. The more the better. In fact you need nice places for 3-4 cities, then it is not important - it can be tundra, forest, desert or even snow.
3. You are able to take required pantheon.

Strategy:
1. Take pantheon. +1 from desert.
2. Spam cities. Put cities on luxuries to boost happiness. Spam as much as possible. Anyway happiness must remain positive.
3. Take religion. +2 gold from city + building pagodas.
4. Enhance religion. Usually it is required to enhance before third religion is founded. Take building mosque + ? (I think +30% is the best)
5. Close piety asap. Choose +2 tourism for each religion buildng.
6. Meanwhile buy pagoda and mosque in each city.
7. Now you have a lot of tourism. Number of cities*4.
8. Press 'end of turn' and achieve victory? No, not that easy - some comps may have a lot of culture, so some more action will be required.

That's it.

Now what i want to understand:
1. Race. Maya (Great persons, imba shrine) or Byzantium (additional building! +50% tourism) or Ethiopia (easier to take pantheon). In general on perfect, perfect start when Uluru is near capital, Byzantium is the best. But you will need tones of restarts to achieve this, on general starts you often can not take pantheon fast. (Rememeber that also you need a lot of space to build cities). With Ethiopia start is easier.

2. Politics. Start with liberty or take piety? With liberty expansion is easier, with piety tourism appers earlier.

3. Any your ideas are wellcome.

For now my best result is cultural victory on deity, 220 turn. Here are screenshot of world map on turns 100 and 200 ( I am in the right bottom corner).
 

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Two questions, getting the game tomorrow (laptop being fixed)

1. Isn't Arabia supposed to be pretty good now too? Desert start bias and their new UA

2. Can Byzantium pick a Reformation belief as their extra?
 
Considering Arabia - may be on Immortal difficulty, on deity is really hard to take fast pantheon for them.

As I saw Byzantium can not take reformation belief as an extra. Fortunately, otherwise Byzantium could win in nearly every game.
 
Turn 220? Damn, that's fast. Do you play on standard or quick speed? Large map?

And I think this only works on Pangea because tourism only influences civs who you've already met.
 
Considering Arabia - may be on Immortal difficulty, on deity is really hard to take fast pantheon for them.

As I saw Byzantium can not take reformation belief as an extra. Fortunately, otherwise Byzantium could win in nearly every game.

Byzantium with 2 tourism from universities and public schools etc...:lol:
 
You can't choose 2 reformation beliefs apparently with Byzantium sadly
 
4. Enhance religion. Usually it is required to enhance before third religion is founded. Take building mosque + ? (I think +30% is the best)

If you can get it, you should pick a cathedral instead of mosque so you aren't dependent on wonders to put your artists in prior to the museums (excluding the palace slot of course)
 
If you can get it, you should pick a cathedral instead of mosque so you aren't dependent on wonders to put your artists in prior to the museums (excluding the palace slot of course)
Wasting great artists on it is worthless and you are supposed to win before arch.
Also i found getting holy warriors as 3rd byzantium belief helps a lot when you get some stubborn inca that spam culture.
 
Don't forget Brasil. The carnival boost on the early tourism generating buildings makes you win very fast. And you get Great Artist faster iirc, which you can burn into even more carnivals.
 
Sacred Sites ICS is well known. ;-)
However it have weakness, you need to found religion and grab at least 2 buildings, and right reformation belief. Being faster in it than AI is not always easy. And also grab right pantheon if we are aiming for this desert folklorore. Also reformacion belief pass to fallowers. So every civ which got influence can benefit from this buildings as well.

From Nations Egypt is nice since have extra happiness to support all this cities. Poland is nice to, since you can faster dig into Piety, and then jump into Liberty.
 
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