Catch Up if We Can: Korea's Palace and Prision

PTW: Monarch, 15 AI, cold, wet, 3*10^9yr, raging, huge, 80% water, Pangeia

Diplo victory is disabled.
Culture victory is disabled.

This is not an OCC.

One man can not play a SG alone.

Speak up. Be heard.

TemporalAnomaly
Elmarae
DBear
jb1964
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Not a singup, but I will follow this one.
BTW, did you only modify your starting location? Or did the AI also got something nice?

Greetz Jurimax

Cool, I've been looking for a Monarch-level succession game. Count me in.
This will be an interesting start. Since we already begin with alphabet, I foresee building curraghs like mad and suicide running.

@DBear:
no Curraghs (this is PTW, not C3C)

Damn that looks like an interesting start

Sign me up.

I have a natural aversion to PTW, but this looks fairly simple.
Settle in place, add in worker.
Build 2 warriors, build the colossus.
Min on Writing, Min on MM.
Have a harbor Prebuild ready when MM comes in, get some galleys out, try and build the great lighthouse, or library depending on Tech situation.
I cannot say that I am really interested in playing, but I will lurk.

what version of ptw is it?

As romeothemonk pointed out there is not much to do in the first turns so, I played the first 2950 yrs (~80 turns).

4000 BCE: Found Seoul, Start Pottery, MP(warrior)
3550 BCE: Build MP #1, Start grain. prebuild
3400 BCE: Finish Pottery, Start Writing
3250 BCE: Rush Grainery, (2)
3200 BCE: Finish Grainery, Start MP #2
3000 BCE: Finish MP # 2, Start Colossus
1720 BCE: Finsh Writing, Start Map Making
1650 BCE: Finish Colossus, Start wealth (change to prebuild latter)
1050 BCE: Finish Map Making



The known World:





I think he knows what the problem is:



Elmarae feel free to play the next 20 - 60 turns.

I am beging to have missgivings about the difficulty, I would be much more hopeful of the AI's ability to take the lead if the pyrimids were built already.

The Mole: It is whatever version that came with CIV III Gold.

DBear: Are you in?

Jurimax: The AI gets the ability not to be stuck on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, I'll go in, since the first turns are already played. I have GOT to start proofreading the game descriptions better...

DBear and Alright: either of you can go next. Just state your intent and take it away.

Okay got it... Will play 20 turns.

Change harbor to Great Lighthouse
(We need the movement more than the extra food a harbour provides. We also need another city to get the benefit of the harbor. Which won't come into effect until Magnetism when trade links can traverse Oceans)
800 BC - Research Philosophy > Code of Laws
730 BC - London builds Oracle
510 BC - Great Lighthouse > Galley
490 BC - Code of Laws > Republic (min research at max we get it in 37 turns the extra gold is worth it for the 3 turns it loses us) Hopefully we'll meet an AI and can trade for the lower techs before we research republic.
450 BC - Galley > Galley
430 BC - Berlin builds Pyramids
390 BC - Galley > Galley
390 BC - Lost Galley (There is alot of ocean out there!)

Was more than 20 turns but it was getting boring pressing enter

EDIT: Would help if I included the save

TemporalAnomaly said:

The Mole: It is whatever version that came with CIV III Gold.

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does anyone know what it is? ive got 1.27, so id be interested in joining if it fits.

downloaded the save--will give this a go.

t3h_m013 said:

does anyone know what it is? ive got 1.27, so id be interested in joining if it fits.

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Lurker's comment: you can download the save and try to load it.

I played it with PTW 1.27 so if it wasn't that to start with it is now... I don't know if different versions would affect it too much.

Though I only explored in one direction... there better be some land within 3 turns I think I was rather lucky that the galley survived that long. I don't fancy doing all that exploring

We really need to find some AI or some free land to start a second city.

Something else you guys can try is a 20K victory. You should be able to throw up a library, temple, and another ancient wonder fairly quickly. HG or TGL should be a possibility. I would still get up a harbor ASAP as that increases your pop, and pop is power.

romeothemonk, we are already at maximum population.

Wow, it's been a long time since I played PTW--had to download the patch!
Anyway, here's the beef:

1) 390BC: A galley is waiting. Since NE doesn't seem to work, I'll try south.

2) 370BC: Galley sinks.

3) 350BC: We have pop 12 and the grainary is full. We are producing 13 shields/turn and a galley takes 30 shields. I shift one of the workers to taxman until I notice that we are making 29/turn before and 27/turn after switching. PTW, taxmen only produce 1 gold. I REALLY wish this was Conquests.

4) 330BC: Galley built, I send it SE.

5) 310BC: Ship survives. Steady course, nothing but ocean.

6) 290BC: The fates are with me. Steady on. Still no sign of land.

7) 270BC: Too much to ask for it to survive, but we have a new galley. This time we head e, toward the center of the minimap.

8) 250BC: This one promply sinks.

9) 230BC: Waiting...

10) 210BC: Heading east again.

11) 190BC: Survives, but nothing seen.

12) 170BC: Galley sinks.

13) 150BC: Try it again to the east.

14) 130BC: Ship survives. Heading east

15) 110BC: Ship survives again, but doesn't find anything.

16) 90BC: The ship survives yet again and keeps sailing into the sun. Another galley is built and follows course.

17) 70BC: Call this ship the Kon-Tiki, it survives yet again! It sails east, still no sign of land. It is almost right in the middle of the minimap. The ship just departing capsizes.

18) 50BC: This is an incredible run. The ship heads east and we find land with a border! No units, though. We head safely to the shallows.

19) 30BC: A Japanese galley pulls alongside. We make contact. We buy Masonry, Wheel, Lit, Warrior Code, Ceremonial Burial, and Ironworking for 790 gold. We had 894 on hand, making 29/turn. We then buy mysticism for 95 + world map. Then we buy math for 9 (all that's left) + 13/turn. We'll still make 16/turn. Japan offers us horseback for 9/turn, but I want to be able to make some money, so I pass. We also have contact with the Mongols and India. It appears that all of them are at least in Medieval age. We build another galley, start a settler. Time to colonize this new world!

20) 10BC: Our galley heads east along the new world and finds an unclaimed patch of jungle along the coast.

romeothemonk, I also turned off cultural victories to avoid a premature win.

I chose to build infosructure rather than settlers for kamikaze galleys. The odds are just to long for my liking.

Points of intrest:
We are at tech parity with the AI.
We found 3 contenants...
and only two are inhabited.
We are a republic.

I am a little disapointed; I thought the AI would do a better job leaving us in the dust. I never counted on that lucky little Kon-Tiki.