SW2 - the holy jihadeen

we are the arabs, worshippers of Allah.
we are also the only true believers of the one true god.
as this earth is polluted by all those other inferior religions, our destiny has become preordained.
we must purify this earth, or follow the path set by the prophet - rising to the sky in our fiery chariot, establishing New Mecca.

now for the details:

Game: C3Conquests 1.22
Level: Emperor (due to popular demand )
Civ: arabia
World settings: standard size, continents, 70%, 5 billion, Arid, Warm.
barbarians: roaming
SGL - off
preserve seed - on
respawn AI - on
cultural linked - off

Victory conditions: all are on. we are only allowed Space and Domination.

Rivals: Ottomans, Russia, India, Egypt, Zulu, Byzantine, Mongols.

Variants:
* we are DEFIANT (Defiant: You must never give in to a demand from an opponent, that is, you always reject demands for tribute. You may never ally, sign a Right of Passage, MPP, or embargo with another civilization. You may never pay for peace (a peace treaty must either be straight-up or the opponent gives a concession to you. A deal where a tech costs 20 gpt normally and you pay 10 gpt for that tech as part of a peace treaty is fine). Any troops on your soil must be given a boot order every turn. No capturing foreign cities or demanding them in diplomacy. No foreign workers merged into existing cities. If an AI razes one of your cities, that civ must be eliminated.) thanks to arathorn for the ruleset.

* we CANT keep any taken cities!!! flipping cities is acceptable (as they have seen the light of god and chose to join us). captured cities can either be razed @ end of turn, or gifted to other civs.
* we are superior to all other civs, so we must always gain from deals. no one for one deals. atleast 1g gain. as im a reasonable guy - just make it seem like we make a profit... we wont be nit pickin...
* as we are (sort of) peaceful we dont declare on others, but try to convert them first (via culture flips). we may declare if we need a specific goal (resourse, lux, etc), but never more than once every age.
* allowed victory - space or conquest only.

disclaimer - i am not against any religion. i hate nobody. just decided to pick a groovy theme, a` la DUNE. if you are offended, or a muslim, or an arab - tough!

current roster - all filled up!!!!

soul warrior - up now
bede - up next
jb1964 AND Admiral kutzov (part-time / stand ins)
tubby rower
zakharov
Iriquoisplisken

I'd like to join. I haven't won on Monarch yet but I'm in TR01 and AENIGMA1 Monarch SG. I'm still learning so you won't have to worry about me having "rogue" turnsets. I've already learned a lot from the small amount of time that I've being participating in SG's. If I'm not qualified, that's fine. Just let me know.

Either difficulty is fine and I like the historic rivals instead of random.

Ok, I will join.

I would prefer to play Emperor, though I don't mind playing Monarch if everyone else wants to.

Questions on the settings:

- SGLs on or off?
- I prefer to have 'preserve random seed' on, with 'AI respawn' and 'cultural start locations' off. Is this ok?
- I am assuming wonder victory is off.

Everything else seems fine, including the chosen opponents.

I will post more when we have a team and a starting screenshot.

@Soul,

I'll give this a shot but please count on me as 1/2 a player for the moment.

How do we decide if a Tech deal is profitable? Tech calc always needs the total $'s already invested in a tech and I doubt many ever track the investment to date. However, it would be a good thing to do to fine tune specialists.

I'm voting for Emperor, historic opps, AI respawn off, cultural palcement off.

I likewise vote for a hill starting location on a river w/ cows, wheat, a few luxes (wine (whine ) if we can only get one), and several bonus grasses.

ok guys - check post one for clarifications.
SGL = off
random seed = on
respawn AI = on or off. it will be my little surprise to the rest of you
cultural start = off
level = EMPEROR

regarding deals - no hard fast rules, just make it look like we get a "good deal". if we can actually prove we gained more... all the better.

@ jb1964 - I likewise vote for a hill starting location on a river w/ cows, wheat, a few luxes (wine (whine ) if we can only get one), and several bonus grasses.
we have 2 votes for that, but i would prefer spices. remember - we are muslim, and are NOT allowed alcohol of any kind.
maybe i should add it to the rules? "no wines / drugs allowed"? maybe not?

@ all, as we seem to have 3 full time and 2 part time players, i will roll a few starts tonite and post pics. 3 is the magic number...

I'd like to join, too. I'm well on my way to my first Emperor win, and I've played the Arabs before and liked them alot (Monarch, won by Domination, I believe). Plus, the rules seem interesting.

The rest of this week may be a little busy for me, with school (end of the semester, lots of homework and tests), and the other SG I'm in (with you, actually), so I'd like to be at the end of the roster, if I may.

Sufi Bede reporting for Jihad duty.

That's 5 and a half team members. Hello to you all.

soul warrior said:

maybe i should add it to the rules? "no wines / drugs allowed"? maybe not?

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I think we can allow it by saying we will give our citizens grapes instead of wines.

Edit: Hello to you too Admiral Kutzov

idiots reporting in. ready to rock n roll. make Bede post the temple rant before we start so everyone know his and my philosophies. He trained me, any of my posts are all his fault.

Edit: idiots need lots of pictures since we're not too good with words. Let's see the start.

@AdmK, all I did was plant a few seeds, you were the one who watered them with Rolling Rock and fertilized with schnapps.

you were the one who watered them with Rolling Rock and fertilized with schnapps.

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yeah, but it's still your fault in my warped little world. Where's the screenie?

welcome aboard BEDE and IROQUISPLISKEN &

screenies will be posted tonite (in 6-8 hours) as i got stuck at work.

current roster - all filled up!!!!

soul warrior - up now
bede - up next
jb1964 AND Admiral kutzov (part-time / stand ins)
tubby rower
zakharov
Iriquoisplisken

@soul warrior, how many starts are you going to give us? 5 is normally a good number.

Btw, our Roman SG was a domination win, not a conquest (in your sig).

5 starts...
and i will edit the sig... oopsy

okey guys, here are the rolls.
i rolled only 5, these are the first ones. so this is what we got.

im still having trouble with letting you see them without downloading them, but will solve it soon.

this is start no 2

start 3 is here

start 4 looking nice aswell

and last but not least
start 5

and here are some saves, if you want to fool around a bit.
if you do, please no commenting on unseen stuff.