Mp3 - Russian Border Patrol

MP3 - Russian Border Patrol


This game will be played on Rhye's 134x130 Earth map, modified to 134x80.

Varients are:

- The capitol can never be moved from Moscow.
- Allowable governments: Despotism, Republic, and Communism (and Anarchy...temporarily)
- No Swordsmen, MDI, Guerillas (attempting the Horse upgrade path)
- All expansion is limited to within CCCP borders. After that, only to other communist territory (China,N Korea,Cuba,etc)
- There are 29 Civs (no Zulu or Ottoman)
- Wars may be started for communist land, if declared on, or if going for conquest (after securing commie territories)

Acceptable Victory Conditions (all are turned on):

- Conquest
- Space (this is the ultimate victory - though others are acceptable)
- 100k/20k
- Diplomatic
- the only one excluded is Domination, as I don't believe there is enough tiles for our land

Difficulty is Emperor

Note: no evil intent is implied by this "communist" variant. It is for gameplay purposes only.

Here is the map, and our start:

EDIT: This is standard c3c 1.22 - not Rhye's of Civilization mod.



Roster:
MeteorPunch
Khan Asparuh
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Would you accept me, knowing that I've never played this map and I can play only on weekdays? What civ version is it on (C3C 1.22?). Modded?

Khan_Asparuh said:

Would you accept me, knowing that I've never played this map and I can play only on weekdays? What civ version is it on (C3C 1.22?). Modded?

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Yes, c3c 1.22 - not modded. I'm hesitant on the weekend thing - I think it's important in a SG to be consistent, though, sometimes turns get played everyday, and sometimes there is a lull...Will you still be posting during the week (and just playing on weekend)? If you can post on weekdays I think it would be alright.

I have no problems on posting on weekdays (actually I'm allready in 2 SG, Whoknows2 and Pen1), and soon enough I'll have Internet home so you won't be able to get rid of me .
Actually I take the game on one day, play it in the evening and post on the next day.

That sounds good to me. I'll let you start if you want...it is the weekend - but we might need to wait for some more to join. Do you have a preference, Monarch or Emperor? This isn't a game to prove how good we are, it is totally for fun...but challenges can be fun!

I dont mind starting it, but I have no save. Can you upload one or give me a link to the original map, please? As I said, I've never tried this one.
Actually this weekend is exceptionnal, if I get it today I can play tonight and post tomorrow. But I believe that we must wait for at least one more player, thread came out only 4 hrs ago.
EDIT: I vote Emperor.

Emperor eh, feelin' lucky? If we lose, it's all your fault

ok, strategy: pop goody huts like mad, and keep us ahead in tech. With 28 emperor ai civs we probably won't have time to set up a worker factory...if we can just set up a good core I would be very pleased.

I'll post a save here in maybe 10 minutes...

20 turns - take as long as you need and remember the variant rules. Good luck!

Why, Is this map so difficult? We'll have a lot of jungle I guess but...
And the SG must be played on chalenging level.
We're not on a river, are we? I'll probably move in the SE...
EDIT: Got it.

Khan_Asparuh said:

Why, Is this map so difficult? We'll have a lot of jungle I guess but...
And the SG must be played on chalenging level.
We're not on a river, are we? I'll probably move in the SE...
EDIT: Got it.

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We have forest - but no jungle. Also I am probably being extremely picky here, but I'd prefer we not move the capitol. The variant states that the palace must remain in Moscow, and I didn't think Moscow itself would move . This one city should remain in place, imo.

EDIT: If you move it, that's fine

No way, no move, it's against SG variant. We can deal with this. I'll settle in place.

lurker's comment: IIRC there are a lot of barbs around Moscow... just letting you know.

Havent seen them yet.
MP3 Opening moves
(0) 4000 BC Moscow founded in place. Explorer ordered.Worker on the cow, explorer in the west.
Research at 0 for now, set on CB to avoid popping it.
(1) 3950 BC I'll just road the cow for now, I want to irrigate it but have no fresh water around. A second city site IMO is found in the west. I have no earth map of the RL to check where the CCCP frontier was.
(2) Already a blue border in the SE, Germany I guess. They are close! MM Moscow, we'll grow later but we'll get explorer earlier.
(3) Meet Germany and Holland. Dutch have Alpha and CB, lack BW, Germans have WC and lack pottery. Nothing to trade, no surprises.
(4) Moscow explorer - warrior. They have traded, Netherlands are up Alpha, CB and WC and Germany only lacks CB. We have nothing to offer.
(5) Explorer finds a hut in the east.
(6) Met Joan of France, up masonry and alpha, down pottery and BW. Hut gave us WC, no surprise. I doubt that Joan haven't met Germany yet, so I pass on Masonry at monopoly price, for WC, pottery, BW, 4gpt and 20 g. I buy instead Alphabet for Pottery, WC and 7g. They'll get BW from the other AIs, but this will cheapen Masonry.
(7) We have Dutch SoD approaching Moscow. I'm praying, warrior due next turn (with growth). We've met Celts, I get CB for BW 13g and 2gpt. We're up CB on Germany, level with Celts and Netherlands and down Masonry on France. Min research set on Writing.
(8) Dutch go away, our warrior MP Moscow, I order another Explorer. Met Spain, were level. Germany caught up somehow and even has Masonry, French have the wheel.
Met Rome too, they have the Wheel and Masonry. No trades possible. At least all first tier techs are known. I change research on Masonry, so huts will give us The Wheel and Writing. This map is insane, capitals almost share tiles...
(9) Nothing new.
(10) If I'm right, there must be a way to get my explorer in Africa, contacts are essential. Europe is in OCP for the capitals! Met Portugal; we're up WC they only have 10G. Not worth it.
(11) Moscow explorer - warrior, to escort the coming settler. Dutch pop a hut I missed near our frontier, get barbs. AIs got their workers in the capitals but I can't buy any.
(12) Where are the Asian Huts?
(13) Greeks show. We're up WC, it give it to them for 20g. We've also found Babs and Hittites. They have Masonry. We can't trade.
(14) Moscow warrior - settler. Can’t build granary now.
(15) Meet Mongols. Finally, they have Masonry, down CB, and have 105g. I sell them CB for 76g (market), and then buy The Wheel at 4th from France for 102 g and 3 gpt. (I hired taxmen in the Capital). Horses near Moscow. Hittities are the only ones to trade straight Masonry for The Wheel.
Masonry for 25g from Spain.
Masonry for 10 g from Portugal.
The Wheel for 30 g from Mongols.
The Wheel for 29 g from Celts.
Now we're up the Wheel and Masonry on the Greeks, only Wheel on Germany, Spain, Babs and Portos, level with France, Rome, Netherlands, Mongols, Hittites and Celts.
We have 110 g, too few of the others have any money.
I hope you don't mind those trades (some far below market price), but these are 1 tier techs, so spread really fast. I got the maximum out of them. And "We're scientifically advanced", with only 1 hut popped. I know, I waste half a treat. But I have 3 explorers out there, and contacts acted like huts. 0% research set on HBR at -1 gpt...
(16) Met Arabia. We're up Masonry, Alpha, Wheel and WC on them.
I sell the Wheel to Portugal for 44g.
(17) I buy Mongolian worker for 116g
(18) Met Byzantium, they are equal to us and have to deal with Barbs - workers in the capital. Finally found a hut in Asia. Mongols have Mysticism, I set research on it.
(19) Change Moscow to Temple, pop the hut and we get St Petersburg in Asia. I think this city can stay ours, it is in Communist lands (Maybe China). Still, check this for me please. And change name if we have to. Set on Warrior. Our income goes to +2 gpt. Germany and Spain have settled their second cities too. Settler due next turn in Moscow.
(20) 3000 BC Moscow Settler - Spear (build up to the next player, just as settler's destination). We meet Korea near St Petersburg, techs equal, no money.
Dot map: Yellow is prioritary for me, there are Dyes in the fog. I doubt we can get the Blue one for 3d town, but I am a dreamer...
Self analysis: I made some trades too early. Especially the one with the Celts.
I must add something. THIS MAP IS INSANE! And quite real, Europe is just as crowded as this in RL.
I think that a crowded map like this can only be dealt with many embassies and MA.
When we get a tech up, we must declare to someone in remote location, then MA with his neighbours. That’s the way IMO.

A few pics

And a DM:

Lots of action and fast trading there. Pretty much what I figured with so many civs. Trading will really be key for keeping up in this game.I think it's important to go for the techs the cpu doesn't go for and then trade for what they have at cheap prices.

I like your city to the SE with the cow and the horse for next. St Petersburg is *way* far out there . I think it's within our little borders. I don't know the exact CCCp borders either, but I'll look at a map to check later.

The third city will be around the blue dot, unless someone else gets it. those european civs will be on our land fast. Another good one would be east of the fur.

Just noticed your note about yellow having the dyes...that will be 2nd or third capitol city. We really need the dyes and horses so it would really suck if we lost either.

I'm gonna play 20 turns unless someone else signs up soon . I think this will be a fun game .

I think the horses city must be third or we'll never get the Dyes one. Up to you, Moscow can pump a settler pretty fast.
EDIT: Maybe we can find somewhere CCCP map?

I like your link, Khan . Advertising is good.

I added an old USSR map to the first post. Our borders don't have to be anywhere near perfect of course, just very general.

OK we've got a lot of land to conquer. Lets see if we're the only ones chalenging the CAPITALISTIC ENEMY in this variant.
Join the Great Party!

lurker's comment: Khan, you don't seem to have luck in attracting people to SG's.
I'd join, but I don't have C3C (waiting for Civ4)
I wish you good luck!