Turnchat Summary Thread
- Thread starter Chieftess
- Start date
Creation chat was held as scheduled, with approximately 10 citizens in attendance. It was pointed out that culturally linked starts were on in the 2nd page, and this was corrected. Note: the screenshot shows it as ON because it was taken before this setting was fixed The game was created without further incident.
Our starting position has 2 wines, 2 fish, 2 forest, and 2 bonus grass. We're standing on a coastal wine tile. See the turnchat thread for screenshots and further details.
Our starting position has 2 wines, 2 fish, 2 forest, and 2 bonus grass. We're standing on a coastal wine tile. See the turnchat thread for screenshots and further details.
Summary: 4000 BC, Monday 3/7/2005, 1500MST (GMT-7)
The capitol, Camelot, was founded in turn 2 (starting from 1) one tile SE of the starting position. Workers irrigated both wines and roaded one of them, while Camelot produced a Warrior and Curragh. For those without Conquests, a Curragh is a small, rowed boat which normally has 2 movement points. Our seafaring attribute (playing as England we are seafaring and commerical) gives all ships +1 movement, so the Curragh has 3 movement.
The warrior, named George W Bush, explored to the north where cattle were located, then he trekked across some grassland to another mountain to the west. This revealed even more cattle. He then headed north a ways to reveal the land in that direction. The end of the schedule 10 turns came, but insufficient information was revealed about the land surrounding the 2nd cattle, so play proceeded for 5 additional turns. Purple borders were discovered on turn 15, and President DaveShack handed off to the next in the CoC because he had to leave for a family gathering. Two turns later, contact was made with Ghandi of the Indians. Play stopped on turn 17, as the predefined conditions for stoppage (meeting another civ) were met.
In the queue we have another warrior, followed by a settler. The 1st curragh is mapping the coastline to the east of our starting position. Priorities are determining the 2nd city location, determining the direction of exploration that George should take, and future build queue beyond the settler. All officials are reminded to post full information about the in-game material pertaining to their office, or to make arrangements if they do not have the ability to open the save.
The capitol, Camelot, was founded in turn 2 (starting from 1) one tile SE of the starting position. Workers irrigated both wines and roaded one of them, while Camelot produced a Warrior and Curragh. For those without Conquests, a Curragh is a small, rowed boat which normally has 2 movement points. Our seafaring attribute (playing as England we are seafaring and commerical) gives all ships +1 movement, so the Curragh has 3 movement.
The warrior, named George W Bush, explored to the north where cattle were located, then he trekked across some grassland to another mountain to the west. This revealed even more cattle. He then headed north a ways to reveal the land in that direction. The end of the schedule 10 turns came, but insufficient information was revealed about the land surrounding the 2nd cattle, so play proceeded for 5 additional turns. Purple borders were discovered on turn 15, and President DaveShack handed off to the next in the CoC because he had to leave for a family gathering. Two turns later, contact was made with Ghandi of the Indians. Play stopped on turn 17, as the predefined conditions for stoppage (meeting another civ) were met.
In the queue we have another warrior, followed by a settler. The 1st curragh is mapping the coastline to the east of our starting position. Priorities are determining the 2nd city location, determining the direction of exploration that George should take, and future build queue beyond the settler. All officials are reminded to post full information about the in-game material pertaining to their office, or to make arrangements if they do not have the ability to open the save.
Summary: Sunday 3/13
The first four turns were rather uneventful, just moving our exploring units, though our exploring curragh spotted a goody hut on the Eastern coast. In turn 5, George (W Bush) found the Dutch, who have an impressive food market for their apparently 2nd city, with 3 (!!) wheat. In turn 6, our curragh located the Chinese, and play stopped to discuss trading options.
The Dutch have Bronze Working, Ceremonial Burial, 42g.
The Chinese have Bronze Working, Masonry, Warrior Code, and lack Alphabet.
The first four turns were rather uneventful, just moving our exploring units, though our exploring curragh spotted a goody hut on the Eastern coast. In turn 5, George (W Bush) found the Dutch, who have an impressive food market for their apparently 2nd city, with 3 (!!) wheat. In turn 6, our curragh located the Chinese, and play stopped to discuss trading options.
The Dutch have Bronze Working, Ceremonial Burial, 42g.
The Chinese have Bronze Working, Masonry, Warrior Code, and lack Alphabet.
Summary: Wednesday 3/16
We started off with some movement left and potential trades on the table. Trade instructions were to buy Ceremonial Burial from India, then see what is available. The preference would be to use Masonry as the middleman tech.
The actual trades turned out to be:
Not exactly what we were hoping for, but it is within the scope of the discussion that the commerce director based the instructions on.
Play continued for 3 turns. Our warrior George didn't see much of anything exciting, but the Curragh saw an unguarded Chinese settler about to snap up some gems on a mountain.
During the 3rd turn, our curragh met Persia who also have Masonry. There are two major strategies at this point, either buy masonry from whomever will sell it cheapest and then we'll know we have it when someone else has something to trade, or let it go in hopes it will be even cheaper. Not wanting to impinge upon the citizens right to discuss this (after getting castigated for not stopping and being liberal with instructions last term 1) play stopped in the middle of turn 3, with some movement left.
We started off with some movement left and potential trades on the table. Trade instructions were to buy Ceremonial Burial from India, then see what is available. The preference would be to use Masonry as the middleman tech.
The actual trades turned out to be:
Bought CB from India for 108g
Sold CB+Alpha+2gpt to China for WC
Sold WC to India for BW+111g
Sold WC to Netherlands for 28g
We are now down just Masonry to China.Sold CB+Alpha+2gpt to China for WC
Sold WC to India for BW+111g
Sold WC to Netherlands for 28g
Not exactly what we were hoping for, but it is within the scope of the discussion that the commerce director based the instructions on.
Play continued for 3 turns. Our warrior George didn't see much of anything exciting, but the Curragh saw an unguarded Chinese settler about to snap up some gems on a mountain.
During the 3rd turn, our curragh met Persia who also have Masonry. There are two major strategies at this point, either buy masonry from whomever will sell it cheapest and then we'll know we have it when someone else has something to trade, or let it go in hopes it will be even cheaper. Not wanting to impinge upon the citizens right to discuss this (after getting castigated for not stopping and being liberal with instructions last term 1) play stopped in the middle of turn 3, with some movement left.
I fell behind a bit on this page. Sorry, I'll try to get it cleaned up so we have at least a historical record in summary form.
In the meantime, here is the most recent session, since it is the one which is most drastically needed.
Play started a little late after my computer hung up trying to open all the stuff I need to play a chat.
Echoed instructions
Turn 0, 1750BC
MM Camelot to wine, 2BG, forest.
Settler from Donsignia towards site A-NW
Settler from Camelot towards site 3 (horse hill)
End of Turn 0 - 1750 BC
Taxes 70% / Science 10% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 241 gold ( +5 gold per turn )
Researching Writing. Will discover it in 1 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
Turn 0 save
Advanced to Turn 1, 1725 BC
Philo is 30 turns at 70%
Japanese are building the oracle
byzantines and japan have writing
workers start mining the bg
inquisitor can see dark green and dark blue borders
neither one is on the coast, have to hope for a wandering unit
MM camelot back to +4 food
philo in 27
End of Turn 1 - 1725 BC
Taxes 10% / Science 70% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 246 gold ( +0 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 27 turns.
Advanced to Turn 2, 1700 BC
Maya complete Colossus
Portugese building pyramids
there is an opportunity, writing to china for mysticism and at least 80g
There are no instructions to trade writing away, and prevailing sentiment
was to hold on to it as long as possible.
Roosting Tree founded, starts warrior
Philo now 24 turns
+2gpt, science to 80%
-1gpt now, Philo in 18
End of Turn 2 - 1700 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 246 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 18 turns.
Advanced to Turn 3, 1675 BC
Netherlands demand writing
Attitude is annoyed.
we accede to their demand and live to fight another day
Bentley is founded next to the Indian iron, removing it from their territory
Blackheart Fedaykins wakes up and moves to Bentley for defense
End of Turn 3 - 1675 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 245 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 15 turns.
Hitting Enter...
portugal, persia, and china have myst+hbr
we have writing on china, they will get it from either byzantines or netherlands
camelot would riot, hire a scientist for 1 turn
Philo now in 13!
Ask chat for advice: anyone think we should NOT trade writing to china for mysticism?
Negative reply, everyone says no point in holding off on writing any longer
proceeding with trade, we give China Writing in exchange for Mysticism
End of Turn 3 - 1675 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 245 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 13 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 4, 1650 BC
Settler finishes, start barracks
forgot to set donsignia, set to barracks
persians are building pyramids
lux to 10%, science to 90% -- but philo back up to 17 turns while we recover pop
exploring per plan, but GWB will need to return to base, has finished discovering the dutch borders
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
End of Turn 4 - 1650 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 244 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 17 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 5, 1625 BC
Provolutia founded on site 4
philo now in 11
End of Turn 5 - 1625 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 243 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 11 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
turn 5 save
Adjusted MM, Philosophy changed to 12 turns
proceeding
Advanced to Turn 6, 1600 BC
maya ask us to leave, no prob
exploring per plan
End of Turn 6 - 1600 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 242 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 11 turns.
Advanced to Turn 7, 1575 BC
horse road complete
China demands 31g
doctrine says give in on small gold, so we pay
Roosting tree finishes warrior, starts worker
camelot grows, need either 10% increase in lux or a scientist
10% MORE that is, gives 10 turns on philo,
Scientist gives 8 turns but slows growth
we need to "acquire" another lux
Comment from mad-bax "You cannot possibly sacrifice growth with 4 cities for half a chance at a tech monopoly."
we ended up with no settlers in the queues given instructions
I'm going to stop now, this really needs to get some discussion
Turn 7 save
In the meantime, here is the most recent session, since it is the one which is most drastically needed.
Play started a little late after my computer hung up trying to open all the stuff I need to play a chat.
Echoed instructions
Turn 0, 1750BC
MM Camelot to wine, 2BG, forest.
Settler from Donsignia towards site A-NW
Settler from Camelot towards site 3 (horse hill)
End of Turn 0 - 1750 BC
Taxes 70% / Science 10% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 241 gold ( +5 gold per turn )
Researching Writing. Will discover it in 1 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
Turn 0 save
Advanced to Turn 1, 1725 BC
Philo is 30 turns at 70%
Japanese are building the oracle
byzantines and japan have writing
workers start mining the bg
inquisitor can see dark green and dark blue borders
neither one is on the coast, have to hope for a wandering unit
MM camelot back to +4 food
philo in 27
End of Turn 1 - 1725 BC
Taxes 10% / Science 70% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 246 gold ( +0 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 27 turns.
Advanced to Turn 2, 1700 BC
Maya complete Colossus
Portugese building pyramids
there is an opportunity, writing to china for mysticism and at least 80g
There are no instructions to trade writing away, and prevailing sentiment
was to hold on to it as long as possible.
Roosting Tree founded, starts warrior
Philo now 24 turns
+2gpt, science to 80%
-1gpt now, Philo in 18
End of Turn 2 - 1700 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 246 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 18 turns.
Advanced to Turn 3, 1675 BC
Netherlands demand writing
Attitude is annoyed.
we accede to their demand and live to fight another day
Bentley is founded next to the Indian iron, removing it from their territory
Blackheart Fedaykins wakes up and moves to Bentley for defense
End of Turn 3 - 1675 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 245 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 15 turns.
Hitting Enter...
portugal, persia, and china have myst+hbr
we have writing on china, they will get it from either byzantines or netherlands
camelot would riot, hire a scientist for 1 turn
Philo now in 13!
Ask chat for advice: anyone think we should NOT trade writing to china for mysticism?
Negative reply, everyone says no point in holding off on writing any longer
proceeding with trade, we give China Writing in exchange for Mysticism
End of Turn 3 - 1675 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 245 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 13 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 4, 1650 BC
Settler finishes, start barracks
forgot to set donsignia, set to barracks
persians are building pyramids
lux to 10%, science to 90% -- but philo back up to 17 turns while we recover pop
exploring per plan, but GWB will need to return to base, has finished discovering the dutch borders
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
End of Turn 4 - 1650 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 244 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 17 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 5, 1625 BC
Provolutia founded on site 4
philo now in 11
End of Turn 5 - 1625 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 243 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 11 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
turn 5 save
Adjusted MM, Philosophy changed to 12 turns
proceeding
Advanced to Turn 6, 1600 BC
maya ask us to leave, no prob
exploring per plan
End of Turn 6 - 1600 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 242 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 11 turns.
Advanced to Turn 7, 1575 BC
horse road complete
China demands 31g
doctrine says give in on small gold, so we pay
Roosting tree finishes warrior, starts worker
camelot grows, need either 10% increase in lux or a scientist
10% MORE that is, gives 10 turns on philo,
Scientist gives 8 turns but slows growth
we need to "acquire" another lux
Comment from mad-bax "You cannot possibly sacrifice growth with 4 cities for half a chance at a tech monopoly."
we ended up with no settlers in the queues given instructions
I'm going to stop now, this really needs to get some discussion
Turn 7 save
echoing instructions, prepare to be flooded
Alright. I can finally say it.
FINISH researching Philosophy. Take Map Making as our free tech. Following that, we have to stop, as I forgot that in C3C you can't use placeholders.
And @ my friendah da chekt: i know this isnt a discussion thread, but we've set the next settler for spot 4. After that, though, then we don't know where were going for OXFORD. (ps: I will fight for my city name next term. Just a heads up.)
SaaM
Commander of the Armed Forces
Unnamed Warrior in Roosting Tree: Rename him to Steven, and then move him to donsignia and fortify.
Unnamed Warrior to be built in Provolutia in 3 turns: Rename him to Tiger-MOTH and fortify him there.
Cubbings: Explore the Dutch borders heading Northeast bound
GWB: Take him to any nearest ungarrisoned city and fortify him there.
HMS Inquisitor: Explore in the southwesterly direction.
Governor of Fanashire
Build Queues
Camelot: Barracks -> Settler -> Warrior * ->
donsignia: Barracks -> Spearman *
Provolutia: Worker -> Warrior
Roosting Tree: Worker -> Barracks
Bentley: Warrior -> Worker
* If we hook up Iron, change this to a Swordsman.
Micromanagement
None. All cities at +2 fpt.
Director of Expansion,
I have to apologize, I'm a little behind. I haven't had time to put together discussion and polling on the next settlement. Please end the chat after a settler and escort(if used) is built. This should be somewhere over nine turns, and shouldn't make the TC shorter than it would normally be.
<DaveShack> no problem, we'll end when Philosophy is learned anyway
Director of Infrastructure:
Operation - Iron Glory
Turn 0 - Go to the iron tile by Donsignia.
Turn 1 - Build a road (3 turns).
Turn 4 - Build a road on the cattle by Donsignia.
Turn 5 - Join the worker from Roosting Tree with the workers on the cattle.
When the workers are done, move to the forest 1W, and chop it down. (this'll get the worker out a little quicker -- the city should be size two by then). Next, build a road. Have the other worker mine the bonus grassland 1SE of Bentley.
Office of Commerce
Given that the Governor has not left instructions for the use of a scientist, the use of the favored 80/20 slider rates should probably be used, though if population changes permit a more favorable rate, it may be changed, assuming that Philosophy research time is not lengthed.
Should Philosophy be finished, select Map Making as our next tech, pursuant to earlier polls on the subject. I request that, after Philosophy is done and we've recieved our reward (assuming it comes), that the turnchat be halted so we may examine further trading options.
Should we be met with a foreign demand at some point for either tech or gold, it will probably be in our best interest to give in to the demand. However, if the civilization making the demand is geographically located far away with no troops visible in our area, or if we are stronger militarily according to the in-game advisors by some miracle, seriously consider not giving in. These are the only guidelines I can lay out - the DP should consider these when making the decision.
that's the end of instructions...
starting Turn 0
Roosting tree warrior renamed Steven and moved to Donsignia
2 workers move to iron next to Donsignia
GWB takes a look inside The Hague on the way back to our territory
Clubbings moves NE along Dutch border
Inquisitor moves S, sees Japanese warrior (we know them)
Checking MM all cities -- ok
set camelot to barracks - settler - warrior
donsignia barracks - spear
Roosting tree worker - barracks
Provolutia worker = warrior
Bentley - warriors
End of Turn 0 - 1575 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 210 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 10 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
turn 0
Advanced to Turn 1, 1550 BC
Next turn, Netherlands ask us to leave -- sure, the look at the Hague was all we needed thanks
Inquisitor finds that the land is only about 5 tiles wide between Persia and Byzantines
End of Turn 1 - 1550 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 209 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 9 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 2, 1525 BC
to ask the Dutch to leave, or not to ask...
I have seen them take much more liberties later in the game if not asked to leave -- but don't want to trigger any conflict earlier than necessary
I think the prudent thing is not to push them out for now -- besides they have to transit to get home
didn't hit enter yet... Camelot would have too much food, so use a scientist for 1 turn before growth and lower lux
End of Turn 2 - 1525 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 209 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 7 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 3, 1500 BC
Provolutia grows, makes worker
Camelot grows, now need to switch back to lux
30% lux would be required. Philosophy back up to 8 turns. or 20% plus scientist keeps it at 7 turns
no instructions for the new worker from Provolutia -- will road the other wine tile to get 1 more commerce
Clubbings is now 11 turns N of provolutia
Horses and Incense in the area
End of Turn 3 - 1500 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 207 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 7 turns.
Hitting Enter...
that didn't seem right (didn't actually hit enter in game)
Philosophy should be 6 turns, and it is -- after remembering to change entertainer to scientist
Now hit enter...
Advanced to Turn 4, 1475 BC
Camelot borders expand
Iron is now connected
Worker instructions missed a river between the iron and Donsignia -- so it will be 2 more turns before start working the cattle tile
Clubbings finds an actual barb warrior -- that is the first one I've spotted this game!
End of Turn 4 - 1475 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 206 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 5 turns.
Advanced to Turn 5, 1450 BC
Camelot finishes barracks and starts settler
Roosting Tree finishes worker and starts barracks (20)
donsignia is currently on barracks
China, Netherlands, and India have math. Netherlands and India lack Mysticism
End of Turn 5 - 1450 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 205 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 4 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1450_Turn5.sav
Discussion on trade (edited a little)
<TimBentley> interesting, Netherlands wants mysticism and over 100g for math
<TimBentley> India will give math and 2g for mysticism
<DaveShack> trade summary is here http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1450_tradeopp.jpg
<TimBentley> we could probably get horseback riding with math
<LeeT911> India trade sounds good.
<DaveShack> the incoming C Ext. wants to build chariots and upgrade
<LeeT911> Ok, so what do we do then?
<LeeT911> Stop here?
<DaveShack> no instructions regarding trades
<DaveShack> we need to get value out of mysticism, or lose the advantage... and don't want to give something more expensive for math
<DaveShack> so I'll do the India and Netherlands trades so they don't get it from China
we give Mysticism, India gives Math, 2g
we give Mysticism, Netherlands gives 17g
India and Netherlands are now both polite
End of Turn 5 - 1450 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 224 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 4 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 6, 1425 BC
Bentley finishes warrior, starts another
Dutch are building pyramids
Rename warrior Tiger-MOTH
workers build road on Donsignia cattle
Inquisitor finds that Persian city of Gordium is at a 2 tile isthmus
End of Turn 6 - 1425 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 222 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 3 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 7, 1400 BC
Persia complains about our curragh -- just moving through
Chinese are building the Pyramids
End of Turn 7 - 1400 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 220 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 2 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 8, 1375 BC
Donsignia finishes barracks
starts on sword (10)
[ Fanatannian News Flash - 1375 BC ] The Netherlands have Map Making -- we need to talk about the free tech
End of Turn 8 - 1375 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 218 gold ( -3 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 1 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1375_Turn8.sav
Alright. I can finally say it.
FINISH researching Philosophy. Take Map Making as our free tech. Following that, we have to stop, as I forgot that in C3C you can't use placeholders.
And @ my friendah da chekt: i know this isnt a discussion thread, but we've set the next settler for spot 4. After that, though, then we don't know where were going for OXFORD. (ps: I will fight for my city name next term. Just a heads up.)
SaaM
Commander of the Armed Forces
Unnamed Warrior in Roosting Tree: Rename him to Steven, and then move him to donsignia and fortify.
Unnamed Warrior to be built in Provolutia in 3 turns: Rename him to Tiger-MOTH and fortify him there.
Cubbings: Explore the Dutch borders heading Northeast bound
GWB: Take him to any nearest ungarrisoned city and fortify him there.
HMS Inquisitor: Explore in the southwesterly direction.
Governor of Fanashire
Build Queues
Camelot: Barracks -> Settler -> Warrior * ->
donsignia: Barracks -> Spearman *
Provolutia: Worker -> Warrior
Roosting Tree: Worker -> Barracks
Bentley: Warrior -> Worker
* If we hook up Iron, change this to a Swordsman.
Micromanagement
None. All cities at +2 fpt.
Director of Expansion,
I have to apologize, I'm a little behind. I haven't had time to put together discussion and polling on the next settlement. Please end the chat after a settler and escort(if used) is built. This should be somewhere over nine turns, and shouldn't make the TC shorter than it would normally be.
<DaveShack> no problem, we'll end when Philosophy is learned anyway
Director of Infrastructure:
Operation - Iron Glory
Turn 0 - Go to the iron tile by Donsignia.
Turn 1 - Build a road (3 turns).
Turn 4 - Build a road on the cattle by Donsignia.
Turn 5 - Join the worker from Roosting Tree with the workers on the cattle.
When the workers are done, move to the forest 1W, and chop it down. (this'll get the worker out a little quicker -- the city should be size two by then). Next, build a road. Have the other worker mine the bonus grassland 1SE of Bentley.
Office of Commerce
Given that the Governor has not left instructions for the use of a scientist, the use of the favored 80/20 slider rates should probably be used, though if population changes permit a more favorable rate, it may be changed, assuming that Philosophy research time is not lengthed.
Should Philosophy be finished, select Map Making as our next tech, pursuant to earlier polls on the subject. I request that, after Philosophy is done and we've recieved our reward (assuming it comes), that the turnchat be halted so we may examine further trading options.
Should we be met with a foreign demand at some point for either tech or gold, it will probably be in our best interest to give in to the demand. However, if the civilization making the demand is geographically located far away with no troops visible in our area, or if we are stronger militarily according to the in-game advisors by some miracle, seriously consider not giving in. These are the only guidelines I can lay out - the DP should consider these when making the decision.
that's the end of instructions...
starting Turn 0
Roosting tree warrior renamed Steven and moved to Donsignia
2 workers move to iron next to Donsignia
GWB takes a look inside The Hague on the way back to our territory
Clubbings moves NE along Dutch border
Inquisitor moves S, sees Japanese warrior (we know them)
Checking MM all cities -- ok
set camelot to barracks - settler - warrior
donsignia barracks - spear
Roosting tree worker - barracks
Provolutia worker = warrior
Bentley - warriors
End of Turn 0 - 1575 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 210 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 10 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
turn 0
Advanced to Turn 1, 1550 BC
Next turn, Netherlands ask us to leave -- sure, the look at the Hague was all we needed thanks
Inquisitor finds that the land is only about 5 tiles wide between Persia and Byzantines
End of Turn 1 - 1550 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 209 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 9 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 2, 1525 BC
to ask the Dutch to leave, or not to ask...
I have seen them take much more liberties later in the game if not asked to leave -- but don't want to trigger any conflict earlier than necessary
I think the prudent thing is not to push them out for now -- besides they have to transit to get home
didn't hit enter yet... Camelot would have too much food, so use a scientist for 1 turn before growth and lower lux
End of Turn 2 - 1525 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 90% / Entertainment 10%
Current Treasury = 209 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 7 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 3, 1500 BC
Provolutia grows, makes worker
Camelot grows, now need to switch back to lux
30% lux would be required. Philosophy back up to 8 turns. or 20% plus scientist keeps it at 7 turns
no instructions for the new worker from Provolutia -- will road the other wine tile to get 1 more commerce
Clubbings is now 11 turns N of provolutia
Horses and Incense in the area
End of Turn 3 - 1500 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 207 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 7 turns.
Hitting Enter...
that didn't seem right (didn't actually hit enter in game)
Philosophy should be 6 turns, and it is -- after remembering to change entertainer to scientist
Now hit enter...
Advanced to Turn 4, 1475 BC
Camelot borders expand
Iron is now connected
Worker instructions missed a river between the iron and Donsignia -- so it will be 2 more turns before start working the cattle tile
Clubbings finds an actual barb warrior -- that is the first one I've spotted this game!
End of Turn 4 - 1475 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 206 gold ( -1 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 5 turns.
Advanced to Turn 5, 1450 BC
Camelot finishes barracks and starts settler
Roosting Tree finishes worker and starts barracks (20)
donsignia is currently on barracks
China, Netherlands, and India have math. Netherlands and India lack Mysticism
End of Turn 5 - 1450 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 205 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 4 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1450_Turn5.sav
Discussion on trade (edited a little)
<TimBentley> interesting, Netherlands wants mysticism and over 100g for math
<TimBentley> India will give math and 2g for mysticism
<DaveShack> trade summary is here http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1450_tradeopp.jpg
<TimBentley> we could probably get horseback riding with math
<LeeT911> India trade sounds good.
<DaveShack> the incoming C Ext. wants to build chariots and upgrade
<LeeT911> Ok, so what do we do then?
<LeeT911> Stop here?
<DaveShack> no instructions regarding trades
<DaveShack> we need to get value out of mysticism, or lose the advantage... and don't want to give something more expensive for math
<DaveShack> so I'll do the India and Netherlands trades so they don't get it from China
we give Mysticism, India gives Math, 2g
we give Mysticism, Netherlands gives 17g
India and Netherlands are now both polite
End of Turn 5 - 1450 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 224 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 4 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 6, 1425 BC
Bentley finishes warrior, starts another
Dutch are building pyramids
Rename warrior Tiger-MOTH
workers build road on Donsignia cattle
Inquisitor finds that Persian city of Gordium is at a 2 tile isthmus
End of Turn 6 - 1425 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 222 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 3 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 7, 1400 BC
Persia complains about our curragh -- just moving through
Chinese are building the Pyramids
End of Turn 7 - 1400 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 220 gold ( -2 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 2 turns.
Hitting Enter...
Advanced to Turn 8, 1375 BC
Donsignia finishes barracks
starts on sword (10)
[ Fanatannian News Flash - 1375 BC ] The Netherlands have Map Making -- we need to talk about the free tech
End of Turn 8 - 1375 BC
Taxes 0% / Science 80% / Entertainment 20%
Current Treasury = 218 gold ( -3 gold per turn )
Researching Philosophy. Will discover it in 1 turns.
Saving file and Uploading...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC1375_Turn8.sav
1000 BC (turn 0)
<Ginger Ale>
currently at -3 gpt, so turn science back to 60%...
currency in 18, 0 gpt
camelot changed from settler to sword
I will upgrade 1 warrior in donsignia
975 BC Turn 1
Camelot: sword -> sword
portuguese are building SoZ
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC975_turn1.zip
I've got to go
<CivGeneral> Ok, I have the save
Swiss Guard enroute to Bentley
Seven enroute to Bentley
975BCE 79g (0 gpt)
Currency @ 17 turns
End of Turn 1
6sci/2lux/2tax
950 BC, Turn 2
Dutch settler group moved into the FOW (Near roosting tree)
Roosting Tree: Barrack -> Chariot
Roosting Tree: Barrack -> Swords (Changed)
Moved HMS inquisitor
mining the tile 1e of RT
950 BCE, 79g (-1 gpt) | Currency @ 16 turns | Sliders 2/6/2
End of Turn 2
925 BC, Turn 3
Isabela demands that we leave her land
Apologise to her and proceed to move the HMS Inquisitor out of there
French warrior/settler group moving in the northeast direction
Donsignia: Swords -> swords
Provoluta: Swords -> Swords
Oxford: Warrior -> warrior
Units renamed
ANZAC moving to Bentley
Tutor enroute to Bentley
Clubbings exploring
HMS Inquisitor moving and exploring
Fortifying Hadiran for now
925 BCE | 78g (4 gpt) | Currency @ 18 turns
3/5/2
End of turn 3
900 BC, Turn 4
Camelor: Swords -> worker
Bentlley - Warrior -> Warruir
Mr. Bean enroute to the nearest barrack city
Fodder enroute to Bentley
900BCE | 82g (4 gpt) | Currency @ 17 turns
3/5/2
End of turn 4
875BC, Turn 5
Camolot: Worker -> Swords
Oxford swiches to build worker
My my, Clubbings has discovered some ruins with 2 dutch warriors nearby
Looks like it used to be the chinese
850BC, Turn 6
The Byzatines wishes to speek to us
Ok people, this one is a streight tech for tech
They Give: HBR
We Give: Construction
regeecting offor
*Offer
Mr. Bean arives in Donsignia
Mr. Bean wants to be upgraded
Mr. Bean is a vet warrior
Mr. Bean gets a sword
850 BCE | 29g (5 gpt) | Currency @ 14 turns
3/5/2
End of Turn 5 <sic -- this was turn 6!>
825 BC, Turn 7
The Byzatines are building the Statue of Zeus
Dutch heading into China
Mr. Bean enroute to Bentley
8 Swords in Bentley
825 BCE | 34g (5 gpr) | Curency @ 13 turns
3/5/2
800 BC Turn 8
Donsignia: Swords -> Swords
Bentley: Warror -> Warror
Provoluta: Swords -> Swords
Regent's Swords Brigade enroute to Bentley
Readtoot's first enroute to Bentley
John enroute to Donsignia for upgrades
9 Swords statoned in Bentley
800 BCE | 39g (2 gpt) | Curency @ 11 turns
3/5/2
775 BC Turn 9
Camolot: Swords -> Swords
775 BCE | 41g (1 gpt) | Currency @ 10 turns
3/5/2
10 Swords stationed in Bentley
750 BC Turn 10
Insufficant funds to upgrade John the vet warrior
fortifying him for now
750 BCE | 42g (1 gpt) | Currency @ 9 Turns
3/5/2
730 BC Turn 11
RT: Swords -> Swords
Bentley: Warrior -> Warrior
The Spanish are building the GW
Fortifying BaconKing in Bentley
Ceaser enroute to Bentley
730 BCE | 43g (-1 gpt) | Currency @ 8 turns
3/5/2
End of Turn 10
Saving and Zipping
we have 12 Swords in Bentley
<Ginger Ale>
currently at -3 gpt, so turn science back to 60%...
currency in 18, 0 gpt
camelot changed from settler to sword
I will upgrade 1 warrior in donsignia
975 BC Turn 1
Camelot: sword -> sword
portuguese are building SoZ
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC975_turn1.zip
I've got to go
<CivGeneral> Ok, I have the save
Swiss Guard enroute to Bentley
Seven enroute to Bentley
975BCE 79g (0 gpt)
Currency @ 17 turns
End of Turn 1
6sci/2lux/2tax
950 BC, Turn 2
Dutch settler group moved into the FOW (Near roosting tree)
Roosting Tree: Barrack -> Chariot
Roosting Tree: Barrack -> Swords (Changed)
Moved HMS inquisitor
mining the tile 1e of RT
950 BCE, 79g (-1 gpt) | Currency @ 16 turns | Sliders 2/6/2
End of Turn 2
925 BC, Turn 3
Isabela demands that we leave her land
Apologise to her and proceed to move the HMS Inquisitor out of there
French warrior/settler group moving in the northeast direction
Donsignia: Swords -> swords
Provoluta: Swords -> Swords
Oxford: Warrior -> warrior
Units renamed
ANZAC moving to Bentley
Tutor enroute to Bentley
Clubbings exploring
HMS Inquisitor moving and exploring
Fortifying Hadiran for now
925 BCE | 78g (4 gpt) | Currency @ 18 turns
3/5/2
End of turn 3
900 BC, Turn 4
Camelor: Swords -> worker
Bentlley - Warrior -> Warruir
Mr. Bean enroute to the nearest barrack city
Fodder enroute to Bentley
900BCE | 82g (4 gpt) | Currency @ 17 turns
3/5/2
End of turn 4
875BC, Turn 5
Camolot: Worker -> Swords
Oxford swiches to build worker
My my, Clubbings has discovered some ruins with 2 dutch warriors nearby
Looks like it used to be the chinese
850BC, Turn 6
The Byzatines wishes to speek to us
Ok people, this one is a streight tech for tech
They Give: HBR
We Give: Construction
regeecting offor
*Offer
Mr. Bean arives in Donsignia
Mr. Bean wants to be upgraded
Mr. Bean is a vet warrior
Mr. Bean gets a sword
850 BCE | 29g (5 gpt) | Currency @ 14 turns
3/5/2
End of Turn 5 <sic -- this was turn 6!>
825 BC, Turn 7
The Byzatines are building the Statue of Zeus
Dutch heading into China
Mr. Bean enroute to Bentley
8 Swords in Bentley
825 BCE | 34g (5 gpr) | Curency @ 13 turns
3/5/2
800 BC Turn 8
Donsignia: Swords -> Swords
Bentley: Warror -> Warror
Provoluta: Swords -> Swords
Regent's Swords Brigade enroute to Bentley
Readtoot's first enroute to Bentley
John enroute to Donsignia for upgrades
9 Swords statoned in Bentley
800 BCE | 39g (2 gpt) | Curency @ 11 turns
3/5/2
775 BC Turn 9
Camolot: Swords -> Swords
775 BCE | 41g (1 gpt) | Currency @ 10 turns
3/5/2
10 Swords stationed in Bentley
750 BC Turn 10
Insufficant funds to upgrade John the vet warrior
fortifying him for now
750 BCE | 42g (1 gpt) | Currency @ 9 Turns
3/5/2
730 BC Turn 11
RT: Swords -> Swords
Bentley: Warrior -> Warrior
The Spanish are building the GW
Fortifying BaconKing in Bentley
Ceaser enroute to Bentley
730 BCE | 43g (-1 gpt) | Currency @ 8 turns
3/5/2
End of Turn 10
Saving and Zipping
we have 12 Swords in Bentley
Summary, Saturday April 16. This session was played by CivGeneral.
590 BC: Updated for latest instructions.
Peace with India for 82g, Lahore, Calcutta, and hit enter.
570 BC: Completed currency, set to engineering. Noticed Sir Isaac Newton is now available! Stopped chat for forum discussion.
590 BC: Updated for latest instructions.
Peace with India for 82g, Lahore, Calcutta, and hit enter.
570 BC: Completed currency, set to engineering. Noticed Sir Isaac Newton is now available! Stopped chat for forum discussion.
TimBentley
Deity
Thursday, April 28
190 BC (0)-Rename cities and units
Renegogiate peace with India, get literature, 6g
Sign embassies with Japan (31g), Maya (58g), France (105g), Portugal (62g), Spain (91g)
Declare war on Persia
Sign MAs against Persia with Portugal (get 8g), Spain (give currency, get 9g), Maya (give currency)
IBT-Persia declares war on China
China starts Great Library
Camelot sword->sword
New London barracks->temple
170(1)-kill a sword
IBT-kill two swords, lose a sword
donsignia, Provolutia sword->sword
Byzantines start Hanging Gardens
150(2)-kill 3 swords, 2 spears
IBT-kill a sword
Black Hole spear->temple
Oxford temple->horse
Persia starts Great Library
130(3)-kill a sword
IBT-kill 3 swords
Camelot, Roosting Tree sword->sword
Hittites start Great Library
110(4)-kill a sword
IBT-Byzantines demand 43g, refuse demand, they declare war
kill an archer, lose a sword
Bentley, Provolutia sword->sword
90(5)-kill 2 spears without loss to capture Holwerd
lose 2 swords killing 2 spears and 1 sword to capture Utrecht
lose 2 swords killing a sword
Stop for discussion of Byzantine war (and it was too late/early for me anyways)
190 BC (0)-Rename cities and units
Renegogiate peace with India, get literature, 6g
Sign embassies with Japan (31g), Maya (58g), France (105g), Portugal (62g), Spain (91g)
Declare war on Persia
Sign MAs against Persia with Portugal (get 8g), Spain (give currency, get 9g), Maya (give currency)
IBT-Persia declares war on China
China starts Great Library
Camelot sword->sword
New London barracks->temple
170(1)-kill a sword
IBT-kill two swords, lose a sword
donsignia, Provolutia sword->sword
Byzantines start Hanging Gardens
150(2)-kill 3 swords, 2 spears
IBT-kill a sword
Black Hole spear->temple
Oxford temple->horse
Persia starts Great Library
130(3)-kill a sword
IBT-kill 3 swords
Camelot, Roosting Tree sword->sword
Hittites start Great Library
110(4)-kill a sword
IBT-Byzantines demand 43g, refuse demand, they declare war
kill an archer, lose a sword
Bentley, Provolutia sword->sword
90(5)-kill 2 spears without loss to capture Holwerd
lose 2 swords killing 2 spears and 1 sword to capture Utrecht
lose 2 swords killing a sword
Stop for discussion of Byzantine war (and it was too late/early for me anyways)
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
The start of a new term and the continuation of our conquest of part of the continent for territory. But things did not go as well as hoped.
In total we lost 4 cities and built 1. 2 were lost to flips, one capture and 1 gifted. We razed Arnhem and built on the Iron/Wheat site.
90 BC
The first turn in particular took a long time, mainly just to find everything - lots of units to move, and my first time to find them all.
Utrecht and Holwerd became Halls of Mandos and Striders Haven
Our troops were located, but many had already moved this turn. All the workers had also moved.
Over There was switched to a Warrior which would be built next turn - it was 7 turns for a Spear and the city would be gone by then, but a Warrior gave us the benefit of some of those shields before the city was gifted to the Indians.
To stir the pot and help us against the Byzantines we formed a few alliances:
Maya,
China (they were at war with Byzantines already so no addional declaration),
Portugal,
Hittites,
and finally Japan.
Theodora was not best pleased with the result.
We ended the turn with 638 gold (+55 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 26.
The IBT allowed to Dutch to counterattack - 1 Sword killed our exposed Sword N of Skye, and an Archer from Breda approached Ela Springs. The Persian Galley ran away. There was only one other event of note.
Continued in next post....
In total we lost 4 cities and built 1. 2 were lost to flips, one capture and 1 gifted. We razed Arnhem and built on the Iron/Wheat site.
90 BC
The first turn in particular took a long time, mainly just to find everything - lots of units to move, and my first time to find them all.
Utrecht and Holwerd became Halls of Mandos and Striders Haven
Our troops were located, but many had already moved this turn. All the workers had also moved.
Over There was switched to a Warrior which would be built next turn - it was 7 turns for a Spear and the city would be gone by then, but a Warrior gave us the benefit of some of those shields before the city was gifted to the Indians.
To stir the pot and help us against the Byzantines we formed a few alliances:
Maya,
China (they were at war with Byzantines already so no addional declaration),
Portugal,
Hittites,
and finally Japan.
Theodora was not best pleased with the result.
We ended the turn with 638 gold (+55 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 26.
The IBT allowed to Dutch to counterattack - 1 Sword killed our exposed Sword N of Skye, and an Archer from Breda approached Ela Springs. The Persian Galley ran away. There was only one other event of note.
Continued in next post....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
70 BC - Turn 1
Our Forces disposed of the Dutch invaders from the IBT for no loss.
Over there had seen Hittite troop movements, but no Byzantines, so as it had produced its Warrior and gave us our Scientist it was set to Wealth and we kept it for another turn.
Our troops continued to gather, more being renamed to have the unit type Prefix. The 2 Warriors in Over There were named Crusader Knight and Butchers.
We ended the turn on 693 gold (+57 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 25.
the IBT was quiet with only one event.
50 BC - Turn 2
No Dutch forces had attacked on the IBT, although a couple of Spears were visible. Our forces continue to gather.
And by the end of the turn they are waiting, blocking the road for a trespassing Indian Worker, and ready to move into Dutch territory next turn.
After many years of planning we found a city on the Iron/Wheat site in the centre of our continent.
Then it's time for Over There. Still no sign of Byzantines, but it would be annoying to have it flip before we could gift it.
We finish the turn with 750 gold (+57gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 24.
the IBT was a rush of building, and a Dutch Galley continued allong our South coast S of Camelot.
Continued in next post....
Our Forces disposed of the Dutch invaders from the IBT for no loss.
Over there had seen Hittite troop movements, but no Byzantines, so as it had produced its Warrior and gave us our Scientist it was set to Wealth and we kept it for another turn.
Our troops continued to gather, more being renamed to have the unit type Prefix. The 2 Warriors in Over There were named Crusader Knight and Butchers.
We ended the turn on 693 gold (+57 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 25.
the IBT was quiet with only one event.
50 BC - Turn 2
No Dutch forces had attacked on the IBT, although a couple of Spears were visible. Our forces continue to gather.
And by the end of the turn they are waiting, blocking the road for a trespassing Indian Worker, and ready to move into Dutch territory next turn.
After many years of planning we found a city on the Iron/Wheat site in the centre of our continent.
Then it's time for Over There. Still no sign of Byzantines, but it would be annoying to have it flip before we could gift it.
We finish the turn with 750 gold (+57gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 24.
the IBT was a rush of building, and a Dutch Galley continued allong our South coast S of Camelot.
Continued in next post....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
30 BC - Turn 3
The Dutch Galley had now passed Camelot, some troops from our core defence force followed, while others stayed to protect Sir Isaac.
Meanwhile, our MAF troops gathered, short one Elite sword from Skye that was still healing there.
and stepped into Dutch territory.
We ended the turn with 807 gold (+59 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 23.
It was not a good IBT. A Dutch Archer defeated our Sword protecting the Workers and patrolling our westerly borders near Ela Springs, capturing 3 of our Workers. A Spear appeared out of the fog from Breda and advanced to one tile of Auchtermuchty. Then this happened:
10 BC - Turn 4
The Archer we can deal with and we recapture our workers and take them to safety in the forest by Ela Springs. But we can't stop the Spear.
In the North our troops move up to Arnhem and the MAF reserves start to assemble.
We end the turn with 866 gold (+59 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 22
IBT and the inevitable happens:
Continued in next post.....
The Dutch Galley had now passed Camelot, some troops from our core defence force followed, while others stayed to protect Sir Isaac.
Meanwhile, our MAF troops gathered, short one Elite sword from Skye that was still healing there.
and stepped into Dutch territory.
We ended the turn with 807 gold (+59 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 23.
It was not a good IBT. A Dutch Archer defeated our Sword protecting the Workers and patrolling our westerly borders near Ela Springs, capturing 3 of our Workers. A Spear appeared out of the fog from Breda and advanced to one tile of Auchtermuchty. Then this happened:
10 BC - Turn 4
The Archer we can deal with and we recapture our workers and take them to safety in the forest by Ela Springs. But we can't stop the Spear.
In the North our troops move up to Arnhem and the MAF reserves start to assemble.
We end the turn with 866 gold (+59 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 22
IBT and the inevitable happens:
Continued in next post.....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
10 AD- Turn 5
We pass from BC to AD, and it's a turbulent era in our history.
[00:37] <Furiey> let's see if we can get Arnhem
[00:37] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword v 3/3 Spear
[00:38] <RikMeleet> I can; it's a 15 minute drive by car
[00:38] <Chieftess> haha
[00:38] <RikMeleet> No really, it is
[00:38] <DoubleX> and 2000 years back
[00:38] <Furiey> dies redlining the spear which promotes
[00:39] <Furiey> another 3/3 Spear on top, there's an anrcher in there too
[00:39] <Furiey> another 3/3 spear dies without scratching the Spear
[00:39] <Chieftess> spear vs spear?
[00:40] <Furiey> sorry 4/4 Sword dies without scratching the 3/3 Spear
[00:40] <Furiey> going to try the Elites
[00:40] <Furiey> 5/5 elite now 2/5 but defeats the 3/3 spear
[00:41] <Furiey> another 5/5 defeats another 3/3 spear now 3/5
[00:41] <zyxy> yeah!
[00:41] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword dies promoting 2/4 Spear to Elite
[00:42] <Furiey> another 4/4 Sword dies redlining the 3/5 spear
[00:42] <Chieftess> wow...
[00:42] <Chieftess> tough battle...
[00:42] <zyxy> that's not good....
[00:42] <zyxy> we might loose this...
[00:42] <DoubleX> wow, those monkies are good
[00:42] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword manages to defeat a 3/3 Archer (just)
[00:43] * MB-away is now known as Mad-Bax
[00:43] <zyxy> you have bad luck Furiey
[00:43] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword defeats 1/5 Spear
[00:43] <zyxy> phwew...
[00:43] <Furiey> and we raze Arnhem!
[00:44] <RikMeleet> YES !!
[00:44] <RikMeleet> Burn that terrible city !!!
[00:44] <eyrei> hehe
[00:44] <DoubleX> No more monkies!
[00:44] <zyxy> with 1 unused sword left right?
[00:44] <RikMeleet> oh... in-game arnhem ...
[00:44] <Chieftess> I never thought I'd see Rik cheering the razing of a Dutch city.
[00:44] <Mad-Bax> At least we won't need Feudalism for unit support
[00:44] <Mad-Bax> PSV were unlucky tonight
[00:44] <Furiey> no - we were short 1 Sword remember
[00:44] <RikMeleet> PSV was indeed unlucky
[00:45] <zyxy> right, so just the horse left? that's close
[00:45] <Chieftess> That might've been the Dutch's Last Stand right there..
[00:45] <Mad-Bax> Amsterdam is full of vets
[00:45] <zyxy> they'll have more in amsterdam, i fear
We raze Arnhem.
We end the turn with 915 gold (+57gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 21
IBT: We finally quell the resistors in Halls of Mandor, and the Dutch keep themselves occupied for a few books...
Then there is news from the Tech front - Fuedalism is out there!
We end the turn with 915 gold (+57 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 21.
30 AD- Turn 6
A turn of rest and healing for our MAF troops. Reinforcements have arrived, but after Arnhem we know we'll need them all in full health.
We end the turn with 972 gold (+64 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 20.
It had been a quiet turn, too quiet obviously as in the IBT this happened:
50 AD - Turn 7
And with that we stopped with movement remaining. Our plan against the Dutch needed revising, we need more troops!
We lost a Spear and Warrior in the flip - George W Bush defected to the Dutch!
We have 1 Settler moving to replace Arnhem, and another currently in Chaos for Amsterdam
1036 Gold (+59 gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 19
We pass from BC to AD, and it's a turbulent era in our history.
[00:37] <Furiey> let's see if we can get Arnhem
[00:37] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword v 3/3 Spear
[00:38] <RikMeleet> I can; it's a 15 minute drive by car
[00:38] <Chieftess> haha
[00:38] <RikMeleet> No really, it is
[00:38] <DoubleX> and 2000 years back
[00:38] <Furiey> dies redlining the spear which promotes
[00:39] <Furiey> another 3/3 Spear on top, there's an anrcher in there too
[00:39] <Furiey> another 3/3 spear dies without scratching the Spear
[00:39] <Chieftess> spear vs spear?
[00:40] <Furiey> sorry 4/4 Sword dies without scratching the 3/3 Spear
[00:40] <Furiey> going to try the Elites
[00:40] <Furiey> 5/5 elite now 2/5 but defeats the 3/3 spear
[00:41] <Furiey> another 5/5 defeats another 3/3 spear now 3/5
[00:41] <zyxy> yeah!
[00:41] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword dies promoting 2/4 Spear to Elite
[00:42] <Furiey> another 4/4 Sword dies redlining the 3/5 spear
[00:42] <Chieftess> wow...
[00:42] <Chieftess> tough battle...
[00:42] <zyxy> that's not good....
[00:42] <zyxy> we might loose this...
[00:42] <DoubleX> wow, those monkies are good
[00:42] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword manages to defeat a 3/3 Archer (just)
[00:43] * MB-away is now known as Mad-Bax
[00:43] <zyxy> you have bad luck Furiey
[00:43] <Furiey> 4/4 Sword defeats 1/5 Spear
[00:43] <zyxy> phwew...
[00:43] <Furiey> and we raze Arnhem!
[00:44] <RikMeleet> YES !!
[00:44] <RikMeleet> Burn that terrible city !!!
[00:44] <eyrei> hehe
[00:44] <DoubleX> No more monkies!
[00:44] <zyxy> with 1 unused sword left right?
[00:44] <RikMeleet> oh... in-game arnhem ...
[00:44] <Chieftess> I never thought I'd see Rik cheering the razing of a Dutch city.
[00:44] <Mad-Bax> At least we won't need Feudalism for unit support
[00:44] <Mad-Bax> PSV were unlucky tonight
[00:44] <Furiey> no - we were short 1 Sword remember
[00:44] <RikMeleet> PSV was indeed unlucky
[00:45] <zyxy> right, so just the horse left? that's close
[00:45] <Chieftess> That might've been the Dutch's Last Stand right there..
[00:45] <Mad-Bax> Amsterdam is full of vets
[00:45] <zyxy> they'll have more in amsterdam, i fear
We raze Arnhem.
We end the turn with 915 gold (+57gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 21
IBT: We finally quell the resistors in Halls of Mandor, and the Dutch keep themselves occupied for a few books...
Then there is news from the Tech front - Fuedalism is out there!
We end the turn with 915 gold (+57 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 21.
30 AD- Turn 6
A turn of rest and healing for our MAF troops. Reinforcements have arrived, but after Arnhem we know we'll need them all in full health.
We end the turn with 972 gold (+64 gold per turn), 10.0.0, Engineering in 20.
It had been a quiet turn, too quiet obviously as in the IBT this happened:
50 AD - Turn 7
And with that we stopped with movement remaining. Our plan against the Dutch needed revising, we need more troops!
We lost a Spear and Warrior in the flip - George W Bush defected to the Dutch!
We have 1 Settler moving to replace Arnhem, and another currently in Chaos for Amsterdam
1036 Gold (+59 gpt), 10.0.0, Engineering in 19
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
A more productive turnset than last time, in total we gained 5 new cities and razed Amsterdam. We have only one more core Dutch city to recapture plus the two that we lost last time. The Dutch now have Fuedalism. We are also at War with France after they sneak attacked us.
50 AD - Turn 0
The first task was build queues, and thanks go to our citizens (Fanatannian and Dutch) in New London, Halls of Mandos and Ela Springs who lost their lives in industrial accidents to complete a Library and then 2 Temples in their respective towns.
Our workers work to improve our lands and our troops gather and heal, and the warrior in Provolutia was retrained as a Sword for 60 gold.
We injure a Dutch archer N of Halls of Mandos with our Cats, while our troops are gathering for Amsterdam.
An opportunity by Breda is spotted and a Horseman and Spearman (for protection) move in to pillage the only road to/from Breda and slow the progress of the Dutch Archers in reaching our lands.
We end the turn with 976 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 19.
IBT
A Dutch Archer approaches Breda from Auchtamutchty, another attacks the Spear protecting the pillaging Horse redlining it.
The injured Dutch Archer ran away, a Dutch Spear appeared on a mountain near the Striders Haven horses and a French Warrior on an adjacent mountain.
A Dutch Galley appears by Bentley.
Turn 1 70 AD
We block the Dutch Spear from approaching the mountain E of Halls of Mandos with a Spear, but otherwise we have to wait there.
Our Attack force gathers and heals in a large stack E of Amsterdam, and a smaller one to the S. Our pillaging horse and Spear retreat to our own lands near Skye for Safety.
We end the turn with 1030 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 18.
IBT:
The Dutch Galley drops off a Sword on the hill 2NW of Bentley and we lose a Spear from the Southern Attack Force to a Dutch Archer. The French and Dutch near Striders Haven step into our territory
Turn 2 90 AD
Our main sword stacks continue to heal and gather.
We kill the Spear on the Striders Haven horses with a Sword, then fortify a Warrior and Sword on Bentleys Iron and wait for the attack.
We end the turn with 1082 gold, +52gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 17.
IBT: the Dutch Sword near Bentley attacks and dies, the Galley disappears into the fog.
the French Warrior fortifies and another Dutch Archer approaches.
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50 AD - Turn 0
The first task was build queues, and thanks go to our citizens (Fanatannian and Dutch) in New London, Halls of Mandos and Ela Springs who lost their lives in industrial accidents to complete a Library and then 2 Temples in their respective towns.
Our workers work to improve our lands and our troops gather and heal, and the warrior in Provolutia was retrained as a Sword for 60 gold.
We injure a Dutch archer N of Halls of Mandos with our Cats, while our troops are gathering for Amsterdam.
An opportunity by Breda is spotted and a Horseman and Spearman (for protection) move in to pillage the only road to/from Breda and slow the progress of the Dutch Archers in reaching our lands.
We end the turn with 976 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 19.
IBT
A Dutch Archer approaches Breda from Auchtamutchty, another attacks the Spear protecting the pillaging Horse redlining it.
The injured Dutch Archer ran away, a Dutch Spear appeared on a mountain near the Striders Haven horses and a French Warrior on an adjacent mountain.
A Dutch Galley appears by Bentley.
Turn 1 70 AD
We block the Dutch Spear from approaching the mountain E of Halls of Mandos with a Spear, but otherwise we have to wait there.
Our Attack force gathers and heals in a large stack E of Amsterdam, and a smaller one to the S. Our pillaging horse and Spear retreat to our own lands near Skye for Safety.
We end the turn with 1030 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 18.
IBT:
The Dutch Galley drops off a Sword on the hill 2NW of Bentley and we lose a Spear from the Southern Attack Force to a Dutch Archer. The French and Dutch near Striders Haven step into our territory
Turn 2 90 AD
Our main sword stacks continue to heal and gather.
We kill the Spear on the Striders Haven horses with a Sword, then fortify a Warrior and Sword on Bentleys Iron and wait for the attack.
We end the turn with 1082 gold, +52gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 17.
IBT: the Dutch Sword near Bentley attacks and dies, the Galley disappears into the fog.
the French Warrior fortifies and another Dutch Archer approaches.
Continued in next post....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Turn 3 110 AD
More Dutch Archers are threatening Skye, but we cannot be distracted, our forces are ready for Amsterdam.
We ask Joan to move her fortified Warrior
We move the troops in and end the turn on 1134 gold, +52gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 16.
IBT: Xerxes speaks, we listen but with our alliances still running we do not accept his kind offer.
Some Dromons appear from the Northern fog and another Sword is dropped by Bentley.
French go South and the Halls of Mandos riots
Turn 4 130 AD
We rush a Settler in Husborne Crawley and move our Troops to Amsterdam
We fortify a Horse and waiting for the Sword to attack finish the turn on 1186 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 15.
IBT: The sword attacks, our horse retreats but lives to fight another day.
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More Dutch Archers are threatening Skye, but we cannot be distracted, our forces are ready for Amsterdam.
We ask Joan to move her fortified Warrior
We move the troops in and end the turn on 1134 gold, +52gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 16.
IBT: Xerxes speaks, we listen but with our alliances still running we do not accept his kind offer.
Some Dromons appear from the Northern fog and another Sword is dropped by Bentley.
French go South and the Halls of Mandos riots
Turn 4 130 AD
We rush a Settler in Husborne Crawley and move our Troops to Amsterdam
We fortify a Horse and waiting for the Sword to attack finish the turn on 1186 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 15.
IBT: The sword attacks, our horse retreats but lives to fight another day.
Continued in next post....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Turn 5 150 AD
For the loss of 2 Swords against only 4 spears and an Archer, Ringo the Drummer finally captures Amsterdam and we gain 4 new Slaves.
The Horse S of Chaos deals with the intruding Dutch Archer, and we watch the French Warrior which has again fortified.
We defeat the Sword
We end the turn with 1267 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 14.
IBT:
Turn 6 170 AD
The French warrior has moved South, perhaps the horse should have gone to the mountain.....
We end the turn with 1321 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 13.
IBT:
Continued in next post....
For the loss of 2 Swords against only 4 spears and an Archer, Ringo the Drummer finally captures Amsterdam and we gain 4 new Slaves.
The Horse S of Chaos deals with the intruding Dutch Archer, and we watch the French Warrior which has again fortified.
We defeat the Sword
We end the turn with 1267 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 14.
IBT:
Turn 6 170 AD
The French warrior has moved South, perhaps the horse should have gone to the mountain.....
We end the turn with 1321 gold, +54gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 13.
IBT:
Continued in next post....
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Turn 7 190 AD
On the Eastern front our troops move in, in the West we defeat the French Warrior, but cannot defeat the Dutch Spear
We end the turn with 1375 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 12.
IBT: The Persian Galley goes home and the Byzantine Dromons disappear into the fog by Karachi.
Turn 8 210 AD
Another Dutch town, this one protected by only 2 Spears and an Archer, joins our Empire after a little persuasion by 2 Swords and a Horseman.
But there's nothing we can do about the Spear on the Horses near Strider's Haven - they're going to get pillaged.
The turn ends with 1428 gold, +57gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 11
IBT: We'll look Smoke Jaguar, but to take a deal like that we'll need to discuss it in the Forum.
Turn 8 210 AD
As expected our Horses got pillaged and a now another Spear is on the Incense.
But finally some good news:
Our 20 turn Peace with the Indians has now expired, so have some of our Alliances, but there are more out there if we decide we want them. The troops not used to take Eindhoven (which has 3 resistors and needs renaming as Falls Church) have not moved.
We stop with 1485 gold, +60gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 10.
On the Eastern front our troops move in, in the West we defeat the French Warrior, but cannot defeat the Dutch Spear
We end the turn with 1375 gold, +53gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 12.
IBT: The Persian Galley goes home and the Byzantine Dromons disappear into the fog by Karachi.
Turn 8 210 AD
Another Dutch town, this one protected by only 2 Spears and an Archer, joins our Empire after a little persuasion by 2 Swords and a Horseman.
But there's nothing we can do about the Spear on the Horses near Strider's Haven - they're going to get pillaged.
The turn ends with 1428 gold, +57gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 11
IBT: We'll look Smoke Jaguar, but to take a deal like that we'll need to discuss it in the Forum.
Turn 8 210 AD
As expected our Horses got pillaged and a now another Spear is on the Incense.
But finally some good news:
Our 20 turn Peace with the Indians has now expired, so have some of our Alliances, but there are more out there if we decide we want them. The troops not used to take Eindhoven (which has 3 resistors and needs renaming as Falls Church) have not moved.
We stop with 1485 gold, +60gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 10.
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
We made good progress against the Dutch, so good that we captured the cities we wanted on turn 4!
Turn 0 230 AD
Workers and build queues are set, with no instructions for Middle Earth province, builds are carried on as before although a Library is started in Bentley.
Eindhoven gets its new name
We attack the Spear on our Incense and our horse loses, but the Spear is injured so it should retreat to heal
Start gathering the attack force, using some who would otherwise be waiting to block key roads to Strider and protect cities from Indian Archers just in case they decide to declare by walking into a city
Time to pay Joan back for her declaration last turnset the result is quite pretty
We end the turn with 1605 gold, +61gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 10.
IBT:
Byzantines approach Bentley, Persians leave and the Dutch Spear retreats
Continued in next post...
Turn 0 230 AD
Workers and build queues are set, with no instructions for Middle Earth province, builds are carried on as before although a Library is started in Bentley.
Eindhoven gets its new name
We attack the Spear on our Incense and our horse loses, but the Spear is injured so it should retreat to heal
Start gathering the attack force, using some who would otherwise be waiting to block key roads to Strider and protect cities from Indian Archers just in case they decide to declare by walking into a city
Time to pay Joan back for her declaration last turnset the result is quite pretty
We end the turn with 1605 gold, +61gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 10.
IBT:
Byzantines approach Bentley, Persians leave and the Dutch Spear retreats
Continued in next post...
Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
Turn 1 250 AD
Our troops continue to gather
We end the turn with 1666 gold, +63gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 9.
IBT:
After all that journey the Byzantines drop a lone Regular Warrior by Bentley
Turn 2 260 AD
We attack Sebodoh defended by regular spears. We lose one Horseman, then another, but injure both spears in the process. Two more Horsemen finish them off.
Our troops move closer to Bangalore and Auchtemuchty
One Dutch and two Fanatannian citizens lose their lives in Skye to build a Temple
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Our troops continue to gather
We end the turn with 1666 gold, +63gpt, 10.0.0, Engineering in 9.
IBT:
After all that journey the Byzantines drop a lone Regular Warrior by Bentley
Turn 2 260 AD
We attack Sebodoh defended by regular spears. We lose one Horseman, then another, but injure both spears in the process. Two more Horsemen finish them off.
Our troops move closer to Bangalore and Auchtemuchty
One Dutch and two Fanatannian citizens lose their lives in Skye to build a Temple
Continued in next post....
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