Better Ship Scale

Elhoim · Mar 01, 2006, 02:07 PM

Better Ship Scale

Description:

Better Ship Scale Basic: This minor mod changes the scale between ships, making modern ones bigger and the ancient ones smaller. This was something that bothered me in vainilla civ, as destroyers were substancially small than frigates. Compatible with the 1.61 patch. Now there is a Warlords compatible version.

Better Ship Scale Fleets: Now version 2.0 is renamed Better Ship Scale Fleets. In this version I remade many ships as fleets. See screenshot below. Compatible with the 1.61 patch. Now there is a Warlords compatible version.

Both are Mac Compatible!

Version History:

Better Ship Scale Basic:

v1.0 - Initial Release

v1.1 - Made some changes to the scale of ships, making them bigger. Removed the changes to air units.

Better Ship Scale Basic - Warlords:

v1.0 - Initial Release. For Warlords only.

Better Ship Scale Basic - BTS:

v1.0 - Initial Release. For BTS only.

Better Ship Scale Fleets:

v1.0 - Initial release. I´ve made fleets of three ships for the ancient and medieval ships, and well as work boats and transports. The subs are two.

v1.1 - Made the ships sound better - Changed Ironclads from 3 to 2 ships - Minor scales changes.

v1.2 - Changed the scale of most ships, made them bigger most of the time. (For those who wanted it, I´ve made the carrier bigger) - Changed subs from 2 to 1.

v1.3 - Changed the scale the of the modern ships, making them much bigger. Also removed the changes to air units.

Better Ship Scale Fleets - Warlords:

v1.0 - Initial Release. For Warlords only.

Minor "Issues":

- In the Fleets version the battles are one on one, as any other option made the ships overlap with each other. If I wanted them to fight at the same time, I would need to greatly change the formation XML, and I don´t have the necesary skill.

- Also I don´t like the diagonal position of the lateral ships in the Fleets version. I don´t know how to change the unit formations xml, to make the 3 ships look to the front. I tried to modify the formations XML, but the ships sometimes look where I want them to and sometimes not. There is a ramdom factor I can´t decipher. If anyone knows and want to do it, you´re welcome to it.

Thanks to: PrinceO'Persia for giving me this new idea of multiple ships.

Hope you like it!

Instructions:

For Basic and Fleets: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4

For Basic and Fleets Warlords: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Warlords

For Basic BTS: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Beyond the Sword

Download:

Basic v1.1: Download!

Basic - Warlords v1.0: Download!

Basic - BTS v1.0: Download!

Fleets v1.3: Download!

Fleets - Warlords v1.0: Download!

Basic, Fleets, Basic-Warlords and Fleets-Warlords ScreenShots:

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Underseer · Mar 01, 2006, 03:19 PM

Brilliant!

I don't use ships much, but this has always bugged me.

PS -- you might want to include a readme file with the same directory information included in your post.

Elhoim · Mar 01, 2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

PS -- you might want to include a readme file with the same directory information included in your post.

Done it!

CurtSibling · Mar 02, 2006, 05:45 AM

Great mod!

A battleship should look imposing!

It should be even bigger!

Elhoim · Mar 02, 2006, 06:00 AM

I tried it, but when you zoom out it overlaps adjacent squares, so I left it "smaller"

CurtSibling · Mar 04, 2006, 04:43 AM

Should I back any files up before install?

...

Elhoim · Mar 04, 2006, 03:40 PM

If you install it in custom assets in my documents there shouldn´t be any file overwrite... Unless you have a mod like 5 unit formations or 10+1 regiments... Hope I´ve been of help.

CurtSibling · Mar 04, 2006, 06:05 PM

You have...Tried the mod and it provided a nicely rescaled caravel!

Good work, sir!

Elhoim · Mar 04, 2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Good work, sir!

Thanks!

hagenx81 · Mar 05, 2006, 05:42 AM

Now this is what i call by a battleship! Great work.

Elhoim · Mar 05, 2006, 03:48 PM

I´m happy that you like it! If anyone has any suggestion or request feel free to ask!

Hyronymus · Mar 05, 2006, 04:03 PM

Nice mod but try adding a sharper sample image in the first post

.

Elhoim · Mar 05, 2006, 05:38 PM

I wanted to save some space, and I think I went overboard

I going to put a nicer one now...

Corn Shucker · Mar 06, 2006, 11:45 AM

A brilliant idea, excellent work! Downloading

hagenx81 · Mar 06, 2006, 01:26 PM

I played around with the XML file and end up scaling all the other units too. I made them all smaller by 0.04 and now IMO it looks better.

Well, I think because they are alittle too large for my taste (the foot units at least).

SilverKnight · Mar 13, 2006, 02:23 AM

Downloaded! Will try tomorrow, time for sleepy...

Eight hours of Civ today, woohoo!

SilverKnight

noamberg · Mar 13, 2006, 04:51 AM

small change - big difference.

Tidiazuron · Mar 13, 2006, 05:12 AM

This was the only graphical thing that annoyed me. Sometimes small efforts make great improvements. Thank you very much.

Zombie69 · Mar 13, 2006, 07:51 AM

Personally i prefer the original sizes, because it makes all the units easier to see when zoomed out at maximum, which is the zoom level i always use. But then again i prefer Civ 1 units (2D images in a box) over Civ 4 units, because they're easier to tell apart.

Elhoim · Mar 13, 2006, 06:57 PM

Thanks! Good that you like it!

Mar 01, 2006, 02:07 PM	#1
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	Better Ship Scale - Support for Warlords & BTS Better Ship Scale Description: Better Ship Scale Basic: This minor mod changes the scale between ships, making modern ones bigger and the ancient ones smaller. This was something that bothered me in vainilla civ, as destroyers were substancially small than frigates. Compatible with the 1.61 patch. Now there is a Warlords compatible version. Better Ship Scale Fleets: Now version 2.0 is renamed Better Ship Scale Fleets. In this version I remade many ships as fleets. See screenshot below. Compatible with the 1.61 patch. Now there is a Warlords compatible version. Both are Mac Compatible! Version History: Better Ship Scale Basic: v1.0 - Initial Release v1.1 - Made some changes to the scale of ships, making them bigger. Removed the changes to air units. Better Ship Scale Basic - Warlords: v1.0 - Initial Release. For Warlords only. Better Ship Scale Basic - BTS: v1.0 - Initial Release. For BTS only. Better Ship Scale Fleets: v1.0 - Initial release. I´ve made fleets of three ships for the ancient and medieval ships, and well as work boats and transports. The subs are two. v1.1 - Made the ships sound better - Changed Ironclads from 3 to 2 ships - Minor scales changes. v1.2 - Changed the scale of most ships, made them bigger most of the time. (For those who wanted it, I´ve made the carrier bigger) - Changed subs from 2 to 1. v1.3 - Changed the scale the of the modern ships, making them much bigger. Also removed the changes to air units. Better Ship Scale Fleets - Warlords: v1.0 - Initial Release. For Warlords only. Minor "Issues": - In the Fleets version the battles are one on one, as any other option made the ships overlap with each other. If I wanted them to fight at the same time, I would need to greatly change the formation XML, and I don´t have the necesary skill. - Also I don´t like the diagonal position of the lateral ships in the Fleets version. I don´t know how to change the unit formations xml, to make the 3 ships look to the front. I tried to modify the formations XML, but the ships sometimes look where I want them to and sometimes not. There is a ramdom factor I can´t decipher. If anyone knows and want to do it, you´re welcome to it. Thanks to: PrinceO'Persia for giving me this new idea of multiple ships. Hope you like it! Instructions: For Basic and Fleets: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 For Basic and Fleets Warlords: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Warlords For Basic BTS: Put in CustomAssets folder in My Games\Beyond the Sword Download: Basic v1.1: Download! Basic - Warlords v1.0: Download! Basic - BTS v1.0: Download! Fleets v1.3: Download! Fleets - Warlords v1.0: Download! Basic, Fleets, Basic-Warlords and Fleets-Warlords ScreenShots: Last edited by Elhoim; Mar 12, 2008 at 05:22 AM. Reason: New Basic Version for BTS!

Mar 02, 2006, 05:45 AM	#4
CurtSibling ENEMY ACE™ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Innsmouth Posts: 27,346 Images: 1	Great mod! A battleship should look imposing! It should be even bigger! __________________ Vive La Revulsion!

Mar 02, 2006, 06:00 AM	#5
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	I tried it, but when you zoom out it overlaps adjacent squares, so I left it "smaller" __________________ Lead Artist of The Age of Decadence - Isometric, Turn-Based, single-player 3D role-playing game set in a low magic, post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Tired of big frigates and small destroyers? Better Ship Scale - New Update! Basic Version for BTS! - More than 3500 downloads! Try it now!

Mar 04, 2006, 04:43 AM	#6
CurtSibling ENEMY ACE™ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Innsmouth Posts: 27,346 Images: 1	Should I back any files up before install? ... __________________ Vive La Revulsion!

Mar 04, 2006, 03:40 PM	#7
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	If you install it in custom assets in my documents there shouldn´t be any file overwrite... Unless you have a mod like 5 unit formations or 10+1 regiments... Hope I´ve been of help. __________________ Lead Artist of The Age of Decadence - Isometric, Turn-Based, single-player 3D role-playing game set in a low magic, post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Tired of big frigates and small destroyers? Better Ship Scale - New Update! Basic Version for BTS! - More than 3500 downloads! Try it now!

Mar 01, 2006, 03:19 PM	#2
Underseer King Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 750 Images: 1	Brilliant! I don't use ships much, but this has always bugged me. PS -- you might want to include a readme file with the same directory information included in your post.

Mar 04, 2006, 06:05 PM	#8
CurtSibling ENEMY ACE™ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Innsmouth Posts: 27,346 Images: 1	You have...Tried the mod and it provided a nicely rescaled caravel! Good work, sir! __________________ Vive La Revulsion!

Mar 05, 2006, 05:42 AM	#10
hagenx81 Chieftain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bandung, Indonesia Posts: 8	Now this is what i call by a battleship! Great work.

Mar 05, 2006, 03:48 PM	#11
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	I´m happy that you like it! If anyone has any suggestion or request feel free to ask! __________________ Lead Artist of The Age of Decadence - Isometric, Turn-Based, single-player 3D role-playing game set in a low magic, post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Tired of big frigates and small destroyers? Better Ship Scale - New Update! Basic Version for BTS! - More than 3500 downloads! Try it now!

Mar 05, 2006, 04:03 PM	#12
Hyronymus Emperor Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,702	Nice mod but try adding a sharper sample image in the first post .

Mar 05, 2006, 05:38 PM	#13
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	I wanted to save some space, and I think I went overboard I going to put a nicer one now... __________________ Lead Artist of The Age of Decadence - Isometric, Turn-Based, single-player 3D role-playing game set in a low magic, post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Tired of big frigates and small destroyers? Better Ship Scale - New Update! Basic Version for BTS! - More than 3500 downloads! Try it now!

Mar 06, 2006, 11:45 AM	#14
Corn Shucker Great Khorn Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 552	A brilliant idea, excellent work! Downloading __________________ Current ANIMATED Leader Head Request: Great Khorn (as in my avatar).Heres a Picture. PM me to do this or for questions! Completed Unit Request: Kinboat finished the Imperial Legionary avalible at the New Unit: Roman Legion 3/2/04 thread. Current Unit Request: Hessian Mercenary (PM me) Current Project: None Check out my nation, Bourgania, on NationStates.net!

Mar 06, 2006, 01:26 PM	#15
hagenx81 Chieftain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bandung, Indonesia Posts: 8	I played around with the XML file and end up scaling all the other units too. I made them all smaller by 0.04 and now IMO it looks better. Well, I think because they are alittle too large for my taste (the foot units at least).

Mar 13, 2006, 02:23 AM	#16
SilverKnight Prince Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA Posts: 542	Screw sleep, Civ! Downloaded! Will try tomorrow, time for sleepy... Eight hours of Civ today, woohoo! SilverKnight __________________ Unit Map a la DGMan v3.19 Rhye's and Fall of Civilization (RFC) for Beyond the Sword \| Earth 1942 AD: World War II by Lokolus v2.08, v1.61 RFC Forum \| Gateway Arch \| Lyrics for Baba Yetu: know 'em, love 'em. v1.22 Rhye's of Civilization - Expanded (RoCX) \| Pounder fixes that annoying transport window!

Mar 13, 2006, 04:51 AM	#17
noamberg Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3	small change - big difference.

Mar 13, 2006, 05:12 AM	#18
Tidiazuron Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oviedo, Spain Posts: 28	This was the only graphical thing that annoyed me. Sometimes small efforts make great improvements. Thank you very much.

Mar 13, 2006, 07:51 AM	#19
Zombie69 Emperor Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,898 Images: 1	Personally i prefer the original sizes, because it makes all the units easier to see when zoomed out at maximum, which is the zoom level i always use. But then again i prefer Civ 1 units (2D images in a box) over Civ 4 units, because they're easier to tell apart.

Mar 13, 2006, 06:57 PM	#20
Elhoim ITS Lead Artist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Isidro, Argentina. Posts: 1,525	Thanks! Good that you like it! __________________ Lead Artist of The Age of Decadence - Isometric, Turn-Based, single-player 3D role-playing game set in a low magic, post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Tired of big frigates and small destroyers? Better Ship Scale - New Update! Basic Version for BTS! - More than 3500 downloads! Try it now!

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