New Flags! Flagpack 3!

Osymandias · Jul 11, 2006, 10:54 AM

Servus!

Now aviable: The new Flagpack 3!

72 new Flags!

overview:

key:

Spoiler:

from the left to the right:

1. part of the coat of arms of south africa
2. coat of arms of the pommeranian voivodship
3. coat of arms of wurmannsquick
4. coat of arms of wittenburg
5. flag of western australia
6. coat of arms of the canton uri
7. flag of the state of southern peoples, nations & nationalities
8. dragon

9. coat of arms of the opole voivodship
10. flag of ust-orda buryatia
11. emblem of the terran empire (star trek)
12. coat f arms of south korea
13. scorpion
14. coat of arms of the canton obwalden
15. flag of the norfolk island
16. coat of arms of forchtenberg

17. coat of arms of the canton valais
18. swedish crowns, version 1
19. coat of arms of the canton schaffhausen
20. raven
21. logo of pressburg/bratislava
22. flag of the nordic flag-council
23. eagle
24. coat of arms of the faroe-islands

25. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 1
26. swedish crowns, version 2
27. flag of the volgograd oblast
28. flag of nunavut
29. flag of the canton nidwalden
30. part of the flag of new brunswick
31. logo of the podkarpacie voivodship
32. dragon

33. flag of the tuva republic
34. coat of arms of mongolia
35. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 2
36. lindworm/dragon
37. coat of arms of the province of verona
38. flag of koryakia
39. coat of arms of gdynia
40. dragon

41. flag of taymyria
42. coat of arms of the lublin voivodship
43. dragon
44. flag of kosrae island
45. cross fo lorraine
46. part of the coat of arms of the canton graubünden
47. coat fo arms of flanders
48. dolphin

49. flag of sicily
50. coat of arms of the kujawsko-pomorskie voivodship
51. coat of arms of kazakhstan
52. flag of kalmykia
53. part of the coat of arms of the canton graubünden
54. flag of evenkia
55. artistic dragonhead
56. flag of chuuk

57. part of the flag of new brunswick
58. hummingbird with horsehead
59. dragon
60. asian dragon
61. skeleton dragon
62. coat of arms of dagestan
63. coat of arms of brussels
64. flag of the australian northern territory

65. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 3
66. coat of arms of brunei
67. coat of arms of the canton basel-city
68. flag of tasmania
69. flag of the canadian northwest territories
70. coat of arms of the aosta valley
71. coat of arms of altikon
72. adler

content of this zip:
-72 new flagdecals
-72 mono_XX.bmps for buttonmaking (same as in other 2 packs)
-the buttonbracket.png, buttonalpha.jpg and btn_example.dds for buttonmaking

--> Visit my [GUIDE] How i invert civ-coloured flags in 6 steps to invert the colours of the flags like you want
--> for buttonmaking visit my [GUIDE] How i make flag-buttons from 0d1n3oo3Broad's mono_XX.bmps

have fun!

/31.07.2006 added ingame-overview
/update: 08.08.2006 added a btn_example.dds to the zip.

DOWNLOAD HERE

Duke van Frost · Jul 11, 2006, 11:52 AM

As Great as the last two! Those flags are simply amazing and will surely be put to good use by some folks of the modding-community.

EDIT: I think this is my first "first post" ever in a public thread

woodelf · Jul 11, 2006, 12:06 PM

These are beautiful. I can't believe everyone let the Duke post first....

Duke van Frost · Jul 11, 2006, 12:20 PM

Don´t be sad, at least you got the second one

Chamaedrys · Jul 11, 2006, 01:29 PM

Interessting! what flags are next?

hr_oskar · Jul 11, 2006, 01:50 PM

Excellent!

0d1n3oo3Broad, I'm only having one problem with your flags and that is that sometimes you have the symbol in background color (alpha channel) and then the actual background will be in the secondary civcolor which should be foreground.

You're probably conscious of this but for some of the flags you cannot possibly have intended it to be inverse, e.g. the German Adler of flagpack 1. I'm including a screenshots of your flags in my mod to illustrate. To the left you have a Polish eagle which looks correct with red as background, while the German eagle is "inverted".

Now I managed to find a method to change the flags myself but it seems a bit rough. My problem is that I don't understand how you make the flags to begin with, why does the image have 6 layers for example? What's your method of determining the size of the symbol? I used to first scale the image to 128*128 then scale the top layer to 96*96 and shift it down slightly, to account for the "stretching effect" in-game. I'm using GIMP btw, if you do too perhaps you could explain roughly your method - which seems to be very quick and neat btw!

Osymandias · Jul 11, 2006, 02:08 PM

thanks people!

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke

I think this is my first "first post" ever in a public thread

i'm glad i could help you with that

Osymandias · Jul 11, 2006, 02:52 PM

@hr_oskar
1. when i test a game, then i look also how the symbol looks with the colors, if it's better that it uses the first or the second color. since i use in my mod some flags where the symbol uses the second color.
also, i know that it's difficult to choose the color-use (black symbol, white bacground - white symol, black background) for a official flagpack. but it should be easy to invert the flags yourself also. (explaination follows)

2. i don't know how it work with gimp, but i heard that it can handle .dds-files. i use DXTBmp for the .dds. with this tool i can export the normal pic and the alphachannel. as inport-programme i used MSPaint and now i use a prgramme, that i bought some years ago and underestimated it. it is Micrografix PicturePublisher. if you get DXTBmp, then you could easily export the alphachannel pic of the desired .dds into mspaint (for example), invert it, re-inport it into DXTBmp, save and you have it. for that, i don't know how gimp works. i read a little bit in the thread about it.

3. when i go to flagmaking, then i do it so:
-at first, i search a big enough picture. then i try, that the desired picture will look good in black-white, use some "masks" (or "templates", don't know the proper word) to define the border of the symbol to the background, that it will look good when i convert it to a black-white-picture.
-then i cut out the symbol and add symmetrically the picture around it. now the symbol should lie exactly in the middle of the pic. when that works, i convert them back to RGB and then i save it as my mono_XX.bmp.
-now i can do the main flagdecal. at first, i convert it to greyscale. then i stretch it in width about 30% (ex: 200x200 -> 260x200). that should compensate the ingame stretch-effect.
-to get a squared picture again, i add the picture in heigh at the top and the bottom. since the symbol on the ingame flag is naturally to high if it's in the middle, i add the picture on top 2/3 and on the bottom 1/3 of the picture (ex: 260x200 to 260x260 --> add alltogether 60, devided into 40 on top, 20 at bottom). now the symbol is out of the middle in bottom-direction.
-now i resize the pic to 128x128, with the "smooth size" option activate (hope you know, what i mean). then i mostly have my flag-image. just some adjustements after testing ingame, then exporting it to the DXTBmp and save as DXT 3 DDS.

4. i'm not sure i know what you mean with "layers". as said, i don't know how gmip works, but i don't use layers.

i hope you understand how i do it. it is hadly to explain in a foreign language even when i don't know how i would explain it in my mothertongue

Osymandias · Aug 07, 2006, 06:55 PM

/update: 08.08.2006 added a btn_example.dds to the zip.

Jul 11, 2006, 10:54 AM	#1
Osymandias Grand King of Apes Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the heart of the Bavarian Forest Posts: 450	New Flags! Flagpack 3! Servus! Now aviable: The new Flagpack 3! 72 new Flags! overview: key: Spoiler: from the left to the right: 1. part of the coat of arms of south africa 2. coat of arms of the pommeranian voivodship 3. coat of arms of wurmannsquick 4. coat of arms of wittenburg 5. flag of western australia 6. coat of arms of the canton uri 7. flag of the state of southern peoples, nations & nationalities 8. dragon 9. coat of arms of the opole voivodship 10. flag of ust-orda buryatia 11. emblem of the terran empire (star trek) 12. coat f arms of south korea 13. scorpion 14. coat of arms of the canton obwalden 15. flag of the norfolk island 16. coat of arms of forchtenberg 17. coat of arms of the canton valais 18. swedish crowns, version 1 19. coat of arms of the canton schaffhausen 20. raven 21. logo of pressburg/bratislava 22. flag of the nordic flag-council 23. eagle 24. coat of arms of the faroe-islands 25. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 1 26. swedish crowns, version 2 27. flag of the volgograd oblast 28. flag of nunavut 29. flag of the canton nidwalden 30. part of the flag of new brunswick 31. logo of the podkarpacie voivodship 32. dragon 33. flag of the tuva republic 34. coat of arms of mongolia 35. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 2 36. lindworm/dragon 37. coat of arms of the province of verona 38. flag of koryakia 39. coat of arms of gdynia 40. dragon 41. flag of taymyria 42. coat of arms of the lublin voivodship 43. dragon 44. flag of kosrae island 45. cross fo lorraine 46. part of the coat of arms of the canton graubünden 47. coat fo arms of flanders 48. dolphin 49. flag of sicily 50. coat of arms of the kujawsko-pomorskie voivodship 51. coat of arms of kazakhstan 52. flag of kalmykia 53. part of the coat of arms of the canton graubünden 54. flag of evenkia 55. artistic dragonhead 56. flag of chuuk 57. part of the flag of new brunswick 58. hummingbird with horsehead 59. dragon 60. asian dragon 61. skeleton dragon 62. coat of arms of dagestan 63. coat of arms of brussels 64. flag of the australian northern territory 65. vytis, lithuanian coat of arms, version 3 66. coat of arms of brunei 67. coat of arms of the canton basel-city 68. flag of tasmania 69. flag of the canadian northwest territories 70. coat of arms of the aosta valley 71. coat of arms of altikon 72. adler content of this zip: -72 new flagdecals -72 mono_XX.bmps for buttonmaking (same as in other 2 packs) -the buttonbracket.png, buttonalpha.jpg and btn_example.dds for buttonmaking --> Visit my [GUIDE] How i invert civ-coloured flags in 6 steps to invert the colours of the flags like you want --> for buttonmaking visit my [GUIDE] How i make flag-buttons from 0d1n3oo3Broad's mono_XX.bmps have fun! /31.07.2006 added ingame-overview */update: 08.08.2006 added a btn_example.dds* to the zip. DOWNLOAD HERE __________________ Für jedes scheinbare Zeichen, jedes vergebliche Wunder gibt es eine einfache, rationale Erklärung, die ohne das Übernatürliche auskommt. Vielleicht keine so schöne, poetische, wie sie der Wunderglauben bietet. Vielleicht eine, die anzunehmen weniger befriedigend ist. Aber nicht der Glaube an das Übernatürliche hat die Menschheit zu den Sternen gebracht. Sondern das unerschütterliche Vertrauen in die Prinzipien der Ratio. -- Tatjana Krieger / H. T. Kautz Visit Osy's Fantastic Creation Corner** Profiles: Spore \| Xfire Last edited by Osymandias; Aug 07, 2006 at 06:54 PM. Reason: Update!

Jul 11, 2006, 01:29 PM	#5
Chamaedrys Emperor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,267	Interessting! what flags are next? __________________ (...)

Jul 11, 2006, 02:52 PM	#8
Osymandias Grand King of Apes Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the heart of the Bavarian Forest Posts: 450	@hr_oskar 1. when i test a game, then i look also how the symbol looks with the colors, if it's better that it uses the first or the second color. since i use in my mod some flags where the symbol uses the second color. also, i know that it's difficult to choose the color-use (black symbol, white bacground - white symol, black background) for a official flagpack. but it should be easy to invert the flags yourself also. (explaination follows) 2. i don't know how it work with gimp, but i heard that it can handle .dds-files. i use DXTBmp for the .dds. with this tool i can export the normal pic and the alphachannel. as inport-programme i used MSPaint and now i use a prgramme, that i bought some years ago and underestimated it. it is Micrografix PicturePublisher. if you get DXTBmp, then you could easily export the alphachannel pic of the desired .dds into mspaint (for example), invert it, re-inport it into DXTBmp, save and you have it. for that, i don't know how gimp works. i read a little bit in the thread about it. 3. when i go to flagmaking, then i do it so: -at first, i search a big enough picture. then i try, that the desired picture will look good in black-white, use some "masks" (or "templates", don't know the proper word) to define the border of the symbol to the background, that it will look good when i convert it to a black-white-picture. -then i cut out the symbol and add symmetrically the picture around it. now the symbol should lie exactly in the middle of the pic. when that works, i convert them back to RGB and then i save it as my mono_XX.bmp. -now i can do the main flagdecal. at first, i convert it to greyscale. then i stretch it in width about 30% (ex: 200x200 -> 260x200). that should compensate the ingame stretch-effect. -to get a squared picture again, i add the picture in heigh at the top and the bottom. since the symbol on the ingame flag is naturally to high if it's in the middle, i add the picture on top 2/3 and on the bottom 1/3 of the picture (ex: 260x200 to 260x260 --> add alltogether 60, devided into 40 on top, 20 at bottom). now the symbol is out of the middle in bottom-direction. -now i resize the pic to 128x128, with the "smooth size" option activate (hope you know, what i mean). then i mostly have my flag-image. just some adjustements after testing ingame, then exporting it to the DXTBmp and save as DXT 3 DDS. 4. i'm not sure i know what you mean with "layers". as said, i don't know how gmip works, but i don't use layers. i hope you understand how i do it. it is hadly to explain in a foreign language even when i don't know how i would explain it in my mothertongue __________________ Für jedes scheinbare Zeichen, jedes vergebliche Wunder gibt es eine einfache, rationale Erklärung, die ohne das Übernatürliche auskommt. Vielleicht keine so schöne, poetische, wie sie der Wunderglauben bietet. Vielleicht eine, die anzunehmen weniger befriedigend ist. Aber nicht der Glaube an das Übernatürliche hat die Menschheit zu den Sternen gebracht. Sondern das unerschütterliche Vertrauen in die Prinzipien der Ratio. -- Tatjana Krieger / H. T. Kautz Visit Osy's Fantastic Creation Corner Profiles: Spore \| Xfire

Aug 07, 2006, 06:55 PM	#9
Osymandias Grand King of Apes Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the heart of the Bavarian Forest Posts: 450	*/update: 08.08.2006 added a btn_example.dds* to the zip. __________________ Für jedes scheinbare Zeichen, jedes vergebliche Wunder gibt es eine einfache, rationale Erklärung, die ohne das Übernatürliche auskommt. Vielleicht keine so schöne, poetische, wie sie der Wunderglauben bietet. Vielleicht eine, die anzunehmen weniger befriedigend ist. Aber nicht der Glaube an das Übernatürliche hat die Menschheit zu den Sternen gebracht. Sondern das unerschütterliche Vertrauen in die Prinzipien der Ratio. -- Tatjana Krieger / H. T. Kautz Visit Osy's Fantastic Creation Corner** Profiles: Spore \| Xfire

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Jul 11, 2006, 11:52 AM	#2
Duke van Frost Lunatic Killer Robot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Darmstadt, Germany Posts: 770	As Great as the last two! Those flags are simply amazing and will surely be put to good use by some folks of the modding-community. EDIT: I think this is my first "first post" ever in a public thread

Jul 11, 2006, 12:06 PM	#3
woodelf Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gallery Posts: 15,001	These are beautiful. I can't believe everyone let the Duke post first....

Jul 11, 2006, 12:20 PM	#4
Duke van Frost Lunatic Killer Robot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Darmstadt, Germany Posts: 770	Don´t be sad, at least you got the second one

Jul 11, 2006, 01:50 PM	#6
hr_oskar Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iceland Posts: 361	Excellent! 0d1n3oo3Broad, I'm only having one problem with your flags and that is that sometimes you have the symbol in background color (alpha channel) and then the actual background will be in the secondary civcolor which should be foreground. You're probably conscious of this but for some of the flags you cannot possibly have intended it to be inverse, e.g. the German Adler of flagpack 1. I'm including a screenshots of your flags in my mod to illustrate. To the left you have a Polish eagle which looks correct with red as background, while the German eagle is "inverted". Now I managed to find a method to change the flags myself but it seems a bit rough. My problem is that I don't understand how you make the flags to begin with, why does the image have 6 layers for example? What's your method of determining the size of the symbol? I used to first scale the image to 128128 then scale the top layer to 9696 and shift it down slightly, to account for the "stretching effect" in-game. I'm using GIMP btw, if you do too perhaps you could explain roughly your method - which seems to be very quick and neat btw!

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