South of Central Europe Map

Mirc · Feb 26, 2007, 05:00 PM

This map covers the Italian peninsula, the Balkan peninsula, parts of the Alps, western part of Turkey, western part of the Black Sea, and parts of Central Europe.

Overall, it covers the following (today's) countries:

Italy, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Romania, Hungary, Moldova, Slovakia (small parts of it), Turkey (small parts of it), Ukraine (small parts of it), Austria (small parts of it), and a really small part of Switzerland.

But I'd better let the picture speak for themselves.

Here's a really zoomed out view of the whole map:

If you want, I can show you even the minimap:

BIG preview: Click here for a full view of the map. It's huge, has about 5 Mb. If you click this, make sure you view it at 100% so you can see it for real.

The map is huge, so you better limit the ability to build cities.

It's 140x188, and most important, it's a land map, so it has much less ocean than any randomly generated map.

<<< Download this map >>>

Thank you for even viewing this thread. Hopefully someone else will also find a use to this map. Please let me know what you think about it. I love feedback.

Note: The rivers are NOT complete on this map. I kept the rivers from varwnos' original map, but didn't complete Danube all the way through Hungary and Austria, so no rivers outside the Balkans (and those might be considered sketches). The map doesn't have any preplaced resource either. Not only did I not have time to do this right now, but in my opinion resources should be balanced according to the purpose of the scenario creator.

Credits:
varwnos - biggest thanks go to him. His Byzantine Empire map was what this map was built on. The coastlines and islands in Greece, as well as the Asian part of Turkey, are fully made by him. The rest was added or changed by me. But without your map, this one probably wouldn't be here either. Also many thanks for the feedback.
Keroro - comments/feedback
AlCosta - comment/feedback
Virote_Considon - comments/feedback
Yoda Power - comments/feedback.

d.highland · Feb 26, 2007, 07:14 PM

Cool job Mirc!

lord_eru · Feb 26, 2007, 10:18 PM

Very nice work Mirc

Virote_Considon · Feb 27, 2007, 04:37 AM

Nice one!

Just a quick question, though, will you at any time be placing the rivers?

Varwnos · Feb 27, 2007, 02:52 PM

Great work, Mirc

Varwnos · Feb 27, 2007, 03:39 PM

Also: Shouldnt Sardinia be partly in this map as well? (you could easily include it)

Mirc · Mar 01, 2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virote_Considon

Nice one!

Just a quick question, though, will you at any time be placing the rivers?

Yes. I'm actually going to do something special with the Danube, so I'll post 2 different river versions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by varwnos

Great work, Mirc

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by varwnos

Also: Shouldnt Sardinia be partly in this map as well? (you could easily include it)

Yes, I should make it too. But I think it wouldn't fit entirely (I'll check on a real map to see this)

BTW, sorry for answering so late, I was out of my city.

Mirc · Mar 02, 2007, 12:05 PM

Hey guys, can anyone help me? I wanted to work on the rivers earlier today but I realized I have NO good map.... I have a lot of physical maps, but on one there are no rivers, on one there is only the Danube in this area, one is for the whole Europe thus I have only Danube and Dniester, and the other one is both physical and politic, so each region is marked with red and the rivers aren't visible....

Does anyone have a map/link with the rivers of south-eastern Europe or southern central Europe?

Varwnos · Mar 02, 2007, 02:04 PM

I think that i included all notable rivers in Greece, but was not very interested in those outside of it (i did not have maps) so the rest of the rivers are not well-done

Mirc · Mar 02, 2007, 02:25 PM

My problem is that without a map, I won't get any other rivers (outside Greece) except the Danube, which I can make from my memory.

JFJ · Mar 28, 2007, 10:44 PM

Does this help at all?

http://www.grid.unep.ch/product/publ...ages/map17.jpg

Mirc · Mar 29, 2007, 11:23 AM

Thanks a lot.

But just yesterday, I ~~found~~ Edit: No, I actually MADE (

) this:

Spoiler:

It doesn't have the rivers in Greece, Romania and Sweden, but I don't have Sweden on this map, I might find regional maps for that.

And I already have the rivers in Greece and Turkey from varwnos' map.

So at least I have the rivers in Italy.

But I'll look better for some other maps. I know I can find some. BTW your map is too much north. Poland is not on this map. Thanks anyway.

Virote_Considon · Mar 29, 2007, 12:00 PM

Hey, Mirc, you're 2 days early (avatar swap

)

Mirc · Mar 29, 2007, 12:19 PM

I just followed the trend.

Some people switched today. Those who switch today will keep their avvies for one week.

BTW - can you recognize me?

Who am I?

Virote_Considon · Mar 29, 2007, 12:42 PM

I dunno. I don't travel to OT much...

Mirc · Mar 29, 2007, 12:46 PM

It's FredLC. He was a mod not long ago.

Some people say he is the most intelligent poster ever to register on CFC. I was really lucky he wasn't taken when I signed up. Just read some of his debate posts - you stand no chance against him.

But let's not go off-topic.

agnickolov · Mar 30, 2007, 01:08 AM

Here's a map of Bulgaria:

http://bulgaria-map.info/maps/Bulgaria-Encarta.gif

It's way too detailed for your purposes though. I suggest you limit the rivers to:
Iskar - through Sofia - from Rila to Danube
Yantra - through Veliko Turnovo - to Danube
Kamchia - south of Varna - to Black Sea
Maritsa - through Plovdiv
Strandzha - through Yambol
Struma - through Blagoevgrad

You already have Struma and Maritsa or Strandzha (somewhat mixed - Strandzha joins Maritza in Turkey), though not very accurate. Danube is shifted a bit to the south as well.

Actually, you may like this map better since the rivers are easier to see:

http://bulgaria-map.info/maps/Bulgar...seeing_Map.jpg

Mirc · Mar 30, 2007, 11:41 AM

Thanks - BTW don't trust the Danube here, I made a new one. Now I'm working on the other rivers.

Mirc · Jan 13, 2008, 03:05 AM

I completed most of the rivers. I only need to add the main rivers in Serbia and Bulgaria (though Maritsa is already on the map, made by Varwnos).

Here's a view of the north-east (Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Ukraine), and you can see a bit of Bulgaria and Serbia that don't yet have too many rivers.

Click Here, but remember it's a very large picture.

Does anyone know where I could find a map of the main rivers in Serbia? For Bulgaria, agnickolov's maps are very nice, unfortunately being unlabelled I can't really decide which ones to include. But I think I can handle Bulgaria, Serbia is my problem currently.

Feb 26, 2007, 05:00 PM	#1
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	South of Central Europe Map This map covers the Italian peninsula, the Balkan peninsula, parts of the Alps, western part of Turkey, western part of the Black Sea, and parts of Central Europe. Overall, it covers the following (today's) countries: Italy, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Romania, Hungary, Moldova, Slovakia (small parts of it), Turkey (small parts of it), Ukraine (small parts of it), Austria (small parts of it), and a really small part of Switzerland. But I'd better let the picture speak for themselves. Here's a really zoomed out view of the whole map: If you want, I can show you even the minimap: BIG preview: Click here for a full view of the map. It's huge, has about 5 Mb. If you click this, make sure you view it at 100% so you can see it for real. The map is huge, so you better limit the ability to build cities. It's 140x188, and most important, it's a land map, so it has much less ocean than any randomly generated map. <<< Download this map >>> Thank you for even viewing this thread. Hopefully someone else will also find a use to this map. Please let me know what you think about it. I love feedback. Note: The rivers are NOT complete on this map. I kept the rivers from varwnos' original map, but didn't complete Danube all the way through Hungary and Austria, so no rivers outside the Balkans (and those might be considered sketches). The map doesn't have any preplaced resource either. Not only did I not have time to do this right now, but in my opinion resources should be balanced according to the purpose of the scenario creator. Credits: varwnos - biggest thanks go to him. His Byzantine Empire map was what this map was built on. The coastlines and islands in Greece, as well as the Asian part of Turkey, are fully made by him. The rest was added or changed by me. But without your map, this one probably wouldn't be here either. Also many thanks for the feedback. Keroro - comments/feedback AlCosta - comment/feedback Virote_Considon - comments/feedback Yoda Power - comments/feedback. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Feb 26, 2007, 07:14 PM	#2
d.highland Arm The Shackles! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,687	Cool job Mirc! __________________ Lots of religious people seem to learn about evolution from watching Pokemon. - Newbunkle

Feb 26, 2007, 10:18 PM	#3
lord_eru Chieftain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Svilajnac, Serbia \|\| Alameda, CA Posts: 19	Very nice work Mirc __________________ Among the blind, the squint is king. If you give me six lines written by the most honest man, I will find something in them to hang him" - Cardinal Richelieu Get ready for teh pwnage

Feb 27, 2007, 04:37 AM	#4
Virote_Considon Alexei Sayle Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skaville UK Reputation: 0 Posts: 6,223	Nice one! Just a quick question, though, will you at any time be placing the rivers? __________________ My modern and Greek Unit R(/T)equests And my Ancient Greek Scenario Thread And the Public Alpha! My Units My Unit Previews My Poser Questions Thread My Tech Icons Petition for updated Civ3 Editor Escape From Zombie Island 0- The Prequel Africa During the Cold War WH40K Pre-Alpha! Industrial Espionage Indo-Greeks Tekee: "Well Polish is just Russian if it was spoken by ducks." Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo!...............My TV Show - The Flat "An old man stands naked in front of a mirror, eating soup. He is a fool." "I'm trying to run a high-class Bureau de Change, not some two-bit Punch and Judy show down on the seafront in Margate..."

Feb 27, 2007, 02:52 PM	#5
Varwnos White Knight, protect me Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 9,973	Great work, Mirc __________________ "Art is, in some respects, more real than life" F. Nietzsche. Civ3 my graphics library 11x

Feb 27, 2007, 03:39 PM	#6
Varwnos White Knight, protect me Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 9,973	Also: Shouldnt Sardinia be partly in this map as well? (you could easily include it) __________________ "Art is, in some respects, more real than life" F. Nietzsche. Civ3 my graphics library 11x

Mar 02, 2007, 12:05 PM	#8
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	Hey guys, can anyone help me? I wanted to work on the rivers earlier today but I realized I have NO good map.... I have a lot of physical maps, but on one there are no rivers, on one there is only the Danube in this area, one is for the whole Europe thus I have only Danube and Dniester, and the other one is both physical and politic, so each region is marked with red and the rivers aren't visible.... Does anyone have a map/link with the rivers of south-eastern Europe or southern central Europe? __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Mar 02, 2007, 02:04 PM	#9
Varwnos White Knight, protect me Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 9,973	I think that i included all notable rivers in Greece, but was not very interested in those outside of it (i did not have maps) so the rest of the rivers are not well-done __________________ "Art is, in some respects, more real than life" F. Nietzsche. Civ3 my graphics library 11x

Mar 02, 2007, 02:25 PM	#10
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	My problem is that without a map, I won't get any other rivers (outside Greece) except the Danube, which I can make from my memory. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Mar 28, 2007, 10:44 PM	#11
JFJ Starving Artist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yay Area Posts: 61	Does this help at all? http://www.grid.unep.ch/product/publ...ages/map17.jpg

Mar 29, 2007, 11:23 AM	#12
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	Thanks a lot. But just yesterday, I ~~found~~ Edit: No, I actually MADE () this: Spoiler: It doesn't have the rivers in Greece, Romania and Sweden, but I don't have Sweden on this map, I might find regional maps for that. And I already have the rivers in Greece and Turkey from varwnos' map. So at least I have the rivers in Italy. But I'll look better for some other maps. I know I can find some. BTW your map is too much north. Poland is not on this map. Thanks anyway. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Mar 29, 2007, 12:00 PM	#13
Virote_Considon Alexei Sayle Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skaville UK Reputation: 0 Posts: 6,223	Hey, Mirc, you're 2 days early (avatar swap ) __________________ My modern and Greek Unit R(/T)equests And my Ancient Greek Scenario Thread And the Public Alpha! My Units My Unit Previews My Poser Questions Thread My Tech Icons Petition for updated Civ3 Editor Escape From Zombie Island 0- The Prequel Africa During the Cold War WH40K Pre-Alpha! Industrial Espionage Indo-Greeks Tekee: "Well Polish is just Russian if it was spoken by ducks." Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo!...............My TV Show - The Flat "An old man stands naked in front of a mirror, eating soup. He is a fool." "I'm trying to run a high-class Bureau de Change, not some two-bit Punch and Judy show down on the seafront in Margate..."

Mar 29, 2007, 12:19 PM	#14
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	I just followed the trend. Some people switched today. Those who switch today will keep their avvies for one week. BTW - can you recognize me? Who am I? __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Mar 29, 2007, 12:42 PM	#15
Virote_Considon Alexei Sayle Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skaville UK Reputation: 0 Posts: 6,223	I dunno. I don't travel to OT much... __________________ My modern and Greek Unit R(/T)equests And my Ancient Greek Scenario Thread And the Public Alpha! My Units My Unit Previews My Poser Questions Thread My Tech Icons Petition for updated Civ3 Editor Escape From Zombie Island 0- The Prequel Africa During the Cold War WH40K Pre-Alpha! Industrial Espionage Indo-Greeks Tekee: "Well Polish is just Russian if it was spoken by ducks." Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo!...............My TV Show - The Flat "An old man stands naked in front of a mirror, eating soup. He is a fool." "I'm trying to run a high-class Bureau de Change, not some two-bit Punch and Judy show down on the seafront in Margate..."

Mar 29, 2007, 12:46 PM	#16
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	It's FredLC. He was a mod not long ago. Some people say he is the most intelligent poster ever to register on CFC. I was really lucky he wasn't taken when I signed up. Just read some of his debate posts - you stand no chance against him. But let's not go off-topic. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Mar 30, 2007, 01:08 AM	#17
agnickolov Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Here's a map of Bulgaria: http://bulgaria-map.info/maps/Bulgaria-Encarta.gif It's way too detailed for your purposes though. I suggest you limit the rivers to: Iskar - through Sofia - from Rila to Danube Yantra - through Veliko Turnovo - to Danube Kamchia - south of Varna - to Black Sea Maritsa - through Plovdiv Strandzha - through Yambol Struma - through Blagoevgrad You already have Struma and Maritsa or Strandzha (somewhat mixed - Strandzha joins Maritza in Turkey), though not very accurate. Danube is shifted a bit to the south as well. Actually, you may like this map better since the rivers are easier to see: http://bulgaria-map.info/maps/Bulgar...seeing_Map.jpg Last edited by agnickolov; Mar 30, 2007 at 01:20 AM.

Mar 30, 2007, 11:41 AM	#18
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	Thanks - BTW don't trust the Danube here, I made a new one. Now I'm working on the other rivers. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

Jan 13, 2008, 03:05 AM	#19
Mirc Not mIRC!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Düsseldorf, ->Germany, E.U. Posts: 15,919	I completed most of the rivers. I only need to add the main rivers in Serbia and Bulgaria (though Maritsa is already on the map, made by Varwnos). Here's a view of the north-east (Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Ukraine), and you can see a bit of Bulgaria and Serbia that don't yet have too many rivers. Click Here, but remember it's a very large picture. Does anyone know where I could find a map of the main rivers in Serbia? For Bulgaria, agnickolov's maps are very nice, unfortunately being unlabelled I can't really decide which ones to include. But I think I can handle Bulgaria, Serbia is my problem currently. __________________ --- Master Crossposter ---

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