Swissempire
Poet Jester
There are lots of Old World Swade who would blindly follow you to a new land. They're very uppity
While We Wait: Part 2
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There are lots of Old World Swade who would blindly follow you to a new land. They're very uppity
Oruc
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Swade suck, who do you think will win between Kelios and the Divotheists.
North King
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You need to sig that...
Symphony D.
Deity
Continued from here:
Again, your assumptions here about both my intentions and how the results would be handled are precisely that. This isn't the right topic or the right time for me to elucidate on my own personal rule theory, so I happen to have a pertinent bit of discussion with North King that sheds some light on my thoughts:
For me, that involves bringing in some light math and semi-automated computation both to assist my delivery of an end-product to players, and to have them make more meaningful choices in their method of operating their chosen country. I've spent a lot of time going over what I think is necessary for me to mod effectively, and I think what I've found has some general relevence to other individuals. Maybe you don't agree with that, but as I said elsewhere, there's no accounting for taste in preferences. That all said, I still do not see any logical fault with what I've suggested, simply opinion about its use.
Microsoft Excel.Israelite9191 said:
See above. Which is faster: plugging numbers into a few fields and either approving of the results as a good approximation or rerunning them; or mentally imagining every battlefield and scenario of a war and metting out random events and such? Who takes longer to perform their task? The accountant, or the playwright?
There are always exceptions.
That's great for them, but also liable to be generally biased (you will notice most of them have left because they do not like what NESing is now, hence their pineing) and irrelevent to this discussion. Greater complexity is here, presumably to stay. What they want or had they may seek out once more if they so choose, but that's not my concern, because I do not share their priority.
I am speaking to the point of the general tone of righteousness you seem to have adopted in your statements lately regarding nearly every possible subject, which to my eye has the air about it of a schoolmaster scolding a pupil for an inadequate answer. It is galling. It is also something I will not tolerate lightly, particularly when directed at me. Your deflection of the point to ageism over an off-hand remark is a prime example--I'm only five years older. If this apparent attitude is not intentional on your part, fair enough, I am being perhaps overly hostile in my response to it, however I am not the only one to see it in your writing, nor the only one to be annoyed by it.
I assume your capabilities at writing are standard for everyone? Do we all write with equal proficiency? No, we do not. Maybe those are issues for you. However, for me, writing of events in narration is simple and fast. Analyzing situations fairly and objectively while accounting for detail is time-consuming. Deciding by fiat is cheap. Taking a week or more to update is crap. Therefore, for my purposes, finding ways to reduce the time required for analysis is good. Presumably, since we are all different, this might also apply to other moderators. Even if it doesn't, it doesn't particularly matter, as I don't design systems for them anyway, and the logic behind reducing time while maintaining quality is still sound and desirable in an age where updates are now taking months instead of days or even weeks.
Because no creative game ever used numbers. This argument as presented basically boils down to stating that a random value determined by a machine is somehow inferior to a random value determined by a human. Which is precisely what is being generated when one is "artistic" and says "The Battle of Yorktown was fought in terrible weather, the skies gray and sheets of rain whipping across the fields. This gave the Americans a clear advantage over their British foes due to their use of unorthodox, guerilla tactics [...]" You decided it was raining and that that helped side X against Y. How is that different from a calculator giving you a random modifier to side X's capabilities, thus allowing them to defeat Y, then dressing it up utilizing language? It isn't. It's the same process, just in a reverse order. Numerical result leading to situational explanation, instead of situational explanation leading to numerical result. Different paths, same destination; one's a highway, the other's a two-lane road. You can pick which you want to go down, but for me, I know which is faster.
Again, your assumptions here about both my intentions and how the results would be handled are precisely that. This isn't the right topic or the right time for me to elucidate on my own personal rule theory, so I happen to have a pertinent bit of discussion with North King that sheds some light on my thoughts:
More direct, observable phenomena should have clearer, more defined rules. Less clear, more fluidic phenomena should have correspondingly looser rules. Anything that is a consistent function should be defined and made clear; transparency in a process is good. Outlets for player creativity should be built into every function regardless of its definition to reward good solutions. Rules should be functional, detailed, rich, in-depth, and time efficient by some means. To make an analogy, they should be somewhere between a German and a Japanese car. Right now, for most games, they're more like an American car.
For me, that involves bringing in some light math and semi-automated computation both to assist my delivery of an end-product to players, and to have them make more meaningful choices in their method of operating their chosen country. I've spent a lot of time going over what I think is necessary for me to mod effectively, and I think what I've found has some general relevence to other individuals. Maybe you don't agree with that, but as I said elsewhere, there's no accounting for taste in preferences. That all said, I still do not see any logical fault with what I've suggested, simply opinion about its use.
German car, eh? With or without quality control issues?
Israelite9191
You should be reading
Exactly my point! Sometimes, and I apply this to rule sets, less is more.My ideal ruleset is like a smart car: As little as possible.
TerrisH
Mischief?
hmm, predictions, prediction.
UKKK is going to take most powerful, no doubt. they rule the old world.
I also Propose an award for most influential nation that did not exist. IE. Emor! we were consumed before the NES started, and yet, we persist, as a people. It was our massacre that turned the bladest alliance in on it's self. we also had... a few more minor effect that I can not mention.
UKKK is going to take most powerful, no doubt. they rule the old world.
I also Propose an award for most influential nation that did not exist. IE. Emor! we were consumed before the NES started, and yet, we persist, as a people. It was our massacre that turned the bladest alliance in on it's self. we also had... a few more minor effect that I can not mention.
~Darkening~
Weep, Mother.
Yeah......
Swissempire
Poet Jester
I second Darkenings comment. It wasn't YOU, it was the Valin Oneists that Myocaca had absorbed.
If anything, Emor should get the award for People who should go away but won't. Seriously, its not persistance, its just sillyness. You've been Ransacked, Conquered, Genocided, Exiled like a bajillion times.
People hate you more than the Jews.
If anything, Emor should get the award for People who should go away but won't. Seriously, its not persistance, its just sillyness. You've been Ransacked, Conquered, Genocided, Exiled like a bajillion times.
People hate you more than the Jews.
~Darkening~
Weep, Mother.
My scoffing was at the fact that oneism had anything to with it 
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Luckymoose
The World is Mine
How aboot that Magland eh?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Trying a Canadian accent Lucky?
I get to. You and Das constantly taunt me from your signature. My fate is not sealed.
Oruc
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Isnt their? unless its some sort of trick you and justorke have concocted to trick me into thinking I'm im his ally when in fact your planning to annihilate me.
I like the Emorians, poor guys getting betrayed by fellow religionists etc etc.
Swissempire
Poet Jester
Oruc
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You're biased and as such your opinion can be discounted.
Then maybe you should stop torturing and killing divothiests.
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