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Hi Piffle,

Loco is still interested in possible trades. We still have the possibility of giving you either guilds or drama, and we will also acquire banking next turn. Would you be interested in trades for any of those?

We are looking into alternative ways of acquiring paper and construction, but a trade of one for our world map is still a good possibility.

Jeejeep
Executive Leader
Team Loco
 
If we give them construction in a well timed manner, would Epsilon ever know? It might slow their advance a bit, and then we could sell the map to epsilon anyway.. or get a tech, or both. Any way you look at it, it looks ok for us. Also, there are no problems trading paper now, are there?
 
Loco has offered Epsilon Banking for Philosphy. I sent Loco a message offering Philo and Construction for Banking and their WM. I hope this is ok.

Epsilon is against trading maps. We should send a chariot up there when we can spare one to map out their territory. Or maybe an explorer but that might be a waste of an upgradeable unit.
 
True, but it is quick, and gives no indication of aggression. I'd be happy enough with that trade, also.
 
From Loco:

We'v just realized that guilds is a prerequesite for banking. Our counterproposal is guilds + world map for compass + philosophy. This is actually even more beakers for you than before.

JeeJeep

Sent Epsilon a message about it.
 
Epsilon owes us Guilds as part of our deal.

Also it'd be nice if we could pick up Drama from Loco somehow.
 
Opened up the save (940AD) to find that Innovia is offering to trade us silk for fish. :wow: Seems like a sweet deal for us.

But, it also makes me wonder why they would offer to give us a happy face for a health resource. Surely they are not this desperate for health, yet? Their capital is size 11, the same as ours.

I am planning on accepting the deal, though, unless anyone objects.
 
what's our happy maximum and heath maximum?
 
then yes... accept it even if that's was our only fish
 
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Originally Posted by killercane
I think we are getting Guilds this turn. If we are, what of the Construction/Philo deal for WM and Banking?

We agree with one condition. Give us ten turns to shop around our world map before you give it up. Agreed?

Jeejeep
 
Jeejeep said:
Killercane said:
I think we are getting Guilds this turn. If we are, what of the Construction/Philo deal for WM and Banking?
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We agree with one condition. Give us ten turns to shop around our world map before you give it up. Agreed?

Jeejeep
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Banking = 1001 beakers
Construction/Philo = 1644 beakers
which then values their map at 640 beakers. :dubious:


I would be opposed to this deal. I doubt Loco has done enough exploring to make this a worthwile deal. Maybe if they threw in Drama ... maybe ... that would at least bring the price of the map down to 200 beakers.
 
Okay, try and grab Drama as well, but also find out what Epsilon will pay for the map and add that into the equation. Surely they would be interested in this sort of information?
 
Dont forget that Loco is going to be attacked by 2 more powerful civs. Having at least Construction helps them. All the other civs have these techs, so the beakers really dont matter. This is supposed to be a devious way to get Epsilon to trade maps, but I dunno. We could just let them trade with Epsilon for Banking always. If we think that is better, then we can do that.
 
killercane said:
Dont forget that Loco is going to be attacked by 2 more powerful civs. Having at least Construction helps them.
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An interesting point ... worth considering ... :hmm:

But, any deal that we do has to be approved by Epsilon. Will they go along with giving them Construction? Secondly, how do we go about getting our hands on Drama?
 
Conroe said:
An interesting point ... worth considering ... :hmm:

But, any deal that we do has to be approved by Epsilon. Will they go along with giving them Construction? Secondly, how do we go about getting our hands on Drama?
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Yes I copied the correspondence over to General W. They are fine with it. Drama would be nice for keeping our population working during wartime, but I dont know how to acquire it. Maybe we wont have too much war weariness; we can always solve that with another unit or two in the unhappy places.
 
Jeejeep said:
We agree with one condition. Give us ten turns to shop around our world map before you give it up. Agreed?

Jeejeep
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Have we replied to this, yet?

If not, how 'bout we respond that 10 turns is a rather steep price considering they are already getting a 640 beaker deal from us. If they want the 10 turns, they throw in Drama as well?

Or would that not be a reasonable request? If not, maybe they'd be willing to sell Drama for gold? Especially since they will just use the gold to buy a tech from Epsilon. :dunno:
 
Loco sent the trade over in the save. Have we officially agreed to it? :confused:
 
I told them I would ask the team about it (the ten turns shopping thing). So it is puzzling that they, who suggested ten turns, are now offering the trade :confused:? But anyways we might as well take it. We can acquire drama later when they are under attack. That would probably make them want to give us a good price for it. The gold suggestion is good too; we could offer them gold and epsilon could offer to sell them a tech.
 
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