King of the World #5: Isabella

But seriously, this game is more of a romp than the Toku one.

I know :undecide: I blame the longer speed. It's a big world, and Toku's forces were effectively slowed down immensely. That and the (cheesy) Warrior rushes of Paris and Berlin. I won't be doing that again. At least not on here ;)

As per Workers, I know, I know. There's just so many other things that need building! Once Paris has that Crossbowman to bring Paris back to full happiness, it'll turn into a Worker pump (2-3 turns per). At least, until there's a new Wonder it can work on.

Oh, and should we settle Palermo in the tip of Sicily? Or maybe Cagliari in Sardinia?
 
The easy difficulty, the slower speed, the unbalanced map which allow for warriorushes all means you are zooming ahead in every category...
 
Yeah the game is all but won already. I played a similar game (opting to rush Rome and France early) and even though you start slow on the domestic front with a lack of workers and worker techs, having a double shrine city (my double holy city was Paris, later named Madrid to wipe the lecherous stain of France off the map) just allowed me to take off in techs. I took it to Russia's teeth with Conquistadors and Citadel-enhanced trebs at 600 AD after consolidating my hold on northern Europe and England.

At that point, Barcelona, Berlin and Venezia (what I named the city you have as Antium) were pumping out enough trebs (and soon cannons, god I love the Citadel) and conquistadors to cowl half the world into submission as soon as I vassaled Cathy. Hatty, Mansa and Saladin all asked to be vassaled and both Asoka and Qin threw in the towel after one city. Toku isn't really worth the hassle right now, and Alex and Cyrus are next on the block if I decide that a religious victory isn't worth "enlightening" the Americas.

All that being said, Spain has a good time on this map. Madrid (Paris) is such a monster city. I am having fun playing around with corporations in the 1400s, having founded Sid's Sushi (first time using corps!) and I'll probably give Mining Inc a try too.

Aberdeen (good choice for a name) is a monster producer, shame its not on the main land, but right now it is busy pumping out transports and a navy.
 
I know I blame the longer speed. It's a big world, and Toku's forces were effectively slowed down immensely. That and the (cheesy) Warrior rushes of Paris and Berlin. I won't be doing that again. At least not on here

Yeah, maybe the speed is the real culprit. I played a shadow of this, on vanilla and normal, and a few attempts to Warrior-rush Paris with 5 warriors were met each time with 2-3 defenders sitting in the city, and another warrior a turn away (aka failure, and reloading). Went for Rome instead on one reload and succeeded, but the game was still not the piece of cake this is shaping up to be -- Louis was some work to take down with swords, Alex with maces and cats, war with Frederick slogged from maces to rifles. The tech rate is much faster on normal speed and it's much harder to keep your military modern.
 
i go with Trieste, keep it Italian for now. Anyways i say go and attack Russia, it still doesn't have its UU and you'll get some diplomatic points with the others dogpiling her. By the way did you build the shines for both religions yet?
 
i go with Trieste, keep it Italian for now. Anyways i say go and attack Russia, it still doesn't have its UU and you'll get some diplomatic points with the others dogpiling her. By the way did you build the shines for both religions yet?

Yup. Both Shrines are built. Which means that Berlin needs a Market, stat!
 
I think you should go rep to get some extra hap
 
Ljubljana is teh more entertaining name and is a capital.

We need a competition to see how far you can conquer (from Spain) with Warriors on Marathon. I think you could get at least Russia, but I can't remember how far Cyrus is (West of Mesopatamia, close to India IIRC?). Will the AI get Archery before you have Sailing for Galleying up to Egypt?
 
I've started the next round. Paris spawned a Great Merchant. Should I use him for:

a) the 1,285 Beakers (out of 2070) for Civil Service (A waste, but Civil Service is a watershed tech, and it will save us 8 turns)

b) for a Golden Age (this would help us get Workers and infrastructure up, and would probably lop a turn or two off Civil Service)

c) for a Trade Mission (Good money in it, but he'd have to take quite a trip to maximize)

or should I d) just settle him in Berlin (long-term, once Berlin becomes a proper Wall Street city, this'll be huge, but there's relatively little short-term return)?
 
That and the (cheesy) Warrior rushes of Paris and Berlin.

My favorite cheese on this map is the tangy goodness of the Roman Warrior Rush (yes using only the initial warrior) rush of Paris and Berlin. It's so strong and over too fast but the taste is great and the fields are free for roman expansion.

Cheese Course #2
Spain will try to settle in France, but re-build berlin with your first settler on top of the bronze in Germany and upgrade the initial warrior to an axeman (along with a friend or two using the city conquest $ from Paris and Berlin) and the blood of the upstart spanish will flow freely and now the Iberian pensula is nice and empty (If it's not a holy city rebuld Madrid on the coast :hammer2:).

Cheese Course #3
Have a galley ready and those same axemen fresh from the pacification of spain can now leave for a quick Bloody visit to England. Now France, Germany, Spain, and England are in roman hands. This works good upto Monarch (I have not tried it any higher level yet).

I know, you have to build settlers to share the cheese with but its soo much fun.
 
re: a) Are you planning to go to bureaucracy right away? Do you have lots of workers waiting around to chain-irrigate stuff? True that CS is a watershed tech, but you're not going to be trading it around or getting a whole lot of immediate benefit out of it.

re: b) I think a golden age is sort of wasted this early with so many unimproved tiles (though it's a classic AI move). GA's are also less of a bonus with a spiritual leader because you already get free civics changes.

I'd go with c) or d).
 
Do you have lots of workers waiting around to chain-irrigate stuff?

:lol: this made my day.
Seriously, in Europe there is really nothing to chain-irrigate, tons of bonus food and tons of rivers.
But the statement is quite funny nonetheless considering Neal's "force" of guys with hocks and shovels.
 
I say option C out to China, flop into US for 5 turns and spend the gold getting your infrastructure up faster.
 
This round, I feel like I was spinning my wheels. Which is a good thing, I guess, since things have been way too easy so far. It started with me building *gasp!*

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WORKERS! ;)

I sent my forces from the Italian front eastward, to find the remnants of the Roman Empire. They found some Praetorians hanging out in a Spartan tavern:

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I knew Caesar was close.

In this world, Leif Erickson did not, in fact, explore and settle the present-day United States. No, he settled down in Berlin and made religious icons for a living:

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Essentially, Berlin is our economy.

Georgy Zhukov, in our world a Soviet Rommel, was, here, a brilliant tactician and pioneer in field medicine. His lightly armed Surgical Corps became famous worldwide:

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Our Super Medic didn't see any action this round, but he'll be crucial for the great war(s) of Round 8.

In 190, Spanish forces located a Roman outpost on the Black Sea:

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The city was torn apart in the search of the elusive Caesar, and, once it became obvious that he had escaped, the Spanish field general ordered the city burned and its fields sown with salt.

As reinforcements trickled through Russia in the quest for Caesar's head (for its presentation at the gates of Rome would be the only true way to quell its restless citizens), they saw many strange sights not to be seen in western Europe. First, St. Petersburg was the home of Catherine's court. The men were soldiers, not diplomats, so they did not inquire further but merely continued southeast. Back in Berlin and Paris, though, speculation was rampant. Were the Russians merely attempting to put pressure on Warsaw? Did Moscow simply lose favor with the capricious Catherine?

The real answer, discovered on the troops' journey, caused many Spanish soldiers to bite their lips in indignation:

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Foul shaven-headed Egyptians strode arrogantly down Moscow's boulevards, their gilded chariots making a mockery of stolid Russian construction. The proud bear had fallen far, it seemed.

Upon seeing Spanish soldiers, axes gleaming in the sunlight, approaching the city of Cumae, the slaves of the city, mostly stolid Russian folk, rose up, tearing down the walls and welcoming the conquerors with open arms:

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Sadly, the Spanish forces were too few, and a bloody stalemate set in once order was restored.

In 325, the foul Egyptians offered to share the secrets of their pagan sun god with the Spanish:

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Isabella considered carefully and accepted the offer. The insolent Hatsepshut would be writhing under an Inquisitor's knife soon enough.

In 445, Spain finally consented to send a proper force against the Roman holdouts in Cumae. The city fell:

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And quickly burned. Julius Caesar, for his conversion to Islam in his final years, was dispatched without ceremony, his broken body being tossed into a heretic's grave.

To commemorate this great victory, the people of Paris built yet another massive edifice in a city of massive edifices:

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Now maybe our next GP will be worth a Golden Age.

And Alexander, good Christian that he is, taught the Spanish people much in the building of Harbors and the encouragement of trade:

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Catherine, meanwhile, came by, hat in hand, asking for Civil Service. Her request was politely but firmly declined. Her days as a political power were over, and she was in no position to demand anything.

In 520 B.C., Mansa Musa, seeing the ruin of Rome and his own hopeless situation (see: KotW #4), knelt and kissed the Spanish ring:

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With Feudalism researched, I made some civics changes:

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Bureaucracy wasn't really helping too terribly much with Barcelona being an average city (for us, anyway) at best, and besides, we're building up for war.

The world as we know it:

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Espionage:

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Power:

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Diplomacy:

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Science:

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And military:

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So we're building up for war, but with whom? Russia or Egypt? I'm currently massing troops in both Tripoli and Warsaw. They're both ripe for the picking. I'm thinking Egypt makes better sense, both in game terms (all those flood plains would be a big boost to our economy) and diplomatic terms (she's a heretic and must die). But this is about as weak and vulnerable as Russia's going to get.

And what of the capital? Once we have our army up and running, should I move it to Paris or Berlin and return to Bureaucracy?

Any other thoughts?
 
You're about to get knights -- let the crusades begin! This could easily turn into a full-scale war between Christianity and Islam. I think Egypt looks more appealing as a target, and Cathy won't be strong anytime soon -- you can kill or vassalize her later, at your leisure. It would be nice to have some better maps of the Middle East and East Africa, before the war, though -- use your spy to scout, if needed. Also, you should try to talk Alex into the war with Hatty -- the MMS may be enough to get him to be your vassal.
 
Hmm, interesting round.

I say hit Russia and Egypt at once. How? DoW on Egypt and take Moscow. Then, do a double front assault on Catherine. Vassalize her (or destroy her...:mischief:), then take on Hatshepsut.

Holy . .. .. .. ., 89 gpt from civics?! Once most of your Citadels are done, and Theocracy is in, switch to Theology and Barbarism to cut on costs..two High Civics are killing the economy.
 
What are the relation between Cyrus and Hatty? Since hes already annoyed with you and shares a dif religion, when you DoW Hatty he may get bribed. He is aggressive IIRC. I say go after russia and finish her off. Then worry about Egypt and the Islamic block with btw is the 3 top power behind you. Killing Egypt now might now be a bit too dangerous, with you economy i dont think you can afford a massive war.

Speaking of the economy, move the cap to Berlin, its more centralized when you consider the new Russian territories:lol:

another thing, whats with the Christian block, i think its a bit 2 weak. Mansa is in a terrible spot. Cathy, well you no whats gonna happen to her. Alex is probably stuck with 3-4 cites, the only leverage you have is Asoka, and you dont even no how powerful his military is, and he is still fighting Qin.
 
How did Hatshepsut manage to capture Moscow?

Anyway, gear up for both of them. Declare on Cathy first, then get a force down to Egypt while keeping a smaller, second force to take Moscow from Egypt.

Qin doesn't seem to be doing so well this map, nor Catherine.

Hatty has good relations with Cyrus and Saladin probably and just moved a stack from the south....

also, what are the chances of converting Cyrus? That would give you a key partner for the attack on Hatty
 
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