r_rolo1
King of myself
Cyrus will become a key element of this game..... either as friend or as foe. i think trying to bring him to your side is the right move. But prepare the knife 
King of the World #5: Isabella
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Shadowcrow
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Egyptians... in moscow. That feels soo wrong.
I've never seen (AI) Egyptians in Moscow, this map proves to be interesting every game.The strong islamic block is a good thing, otherwise this would be way too easy.
You are the strongest power, time for some "converting" via the sword.
Let the crusades begin indeed, what would be more fitting with Izzy
Stewie0416
Who Cares?
I find that KoW map is a bit strange. Cyrus always seems to build his Civ in a vertical wall like thing that sep east and west. But in this game it seems that AFRICANS have taken over Russia first...
Stewie0416
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What about Saladin in this game, if he founded Islam has he build the Shrine yet?
This round began with Cyrus completing the Statue of Zeus. As a lot of folks had been saying, we're going to have to curry favor with him. He's suddenly a much tougher nut to crack.
In 535, I called Catherine to my palace and gave her the dreaded "Let's discuss something else" line. Look at her face. She knows what's coming:
You all were right. Catherine was at her weakest, and, as a result, her heretical beliefs needed to be "reformed" quickly.
Yaroslavl' fell easily and was renamed St. Petersburg:
This left two St. Petersburgs on the map. This is, of course, unacceptable. Unfortunately for Catherine, the player cannot rename AI cities.
While punishing Russia for its weakness, I began mollycoddling Cyrus. First, I brought him into the fold:
I'm amazed that's all it took. Hopefully that doesn't make him just as easy for the Muslims to bribe back. Of course, he's still hissy with us. Baby steps, people.
Jacques Cartier, explorer of the Canadas, decided to stay home in this world and open Cartier Papier:
Ba-dum-ching! I thought about the Golden Age, but that can wait. Getting to Liberalism is more important right now.
In 580, I set about fixing that annoying duplicate-name problem:
Catherine, beaten down by her neighbors and on the brink of extermination, decided to kiss the ring:
Could I have wiped her out? Certainly, but this vassalizes her early enough that she can recover. Now, once our Conquistadors enter obsolescence, they can enter Russia, turn in their breastplates for fur hats and ride again as Cossacks!
In 595, we met Tokugawa, who's still a bitter old man even when you share the faith:
Poor Tokugawa. We've shown that you can kick ass on this map! Why do you always languish in obscurity?
Also in 595, foul Islamic magic somehow threw a hurricane at Stockholm!
Or maybe that's just God punishing us for misnaming a city.
By 610, it was time to correct the wrong Egypt had done to our Russian brothers in Christ:
The sanctity of this crusade was commemorated by Paris building a (gasp!) appropriate Wonder of the World:
And, just for kicks, a look at Berlin in 670:
As you can see, the double shrine has forced me to effectively turn a fantastic production city into a commerce city. Of course, once some cottages mature and Wall Street's running in there, it'll be an absolute beast.
In 685,
We gave Catherine what was rightfully hers. I honestly didn't feel like fending off all the outside cultural pressure, and the liberation will make her happy. And besides, it's bull that Egypt should be able to take Moscow.
In 730, Barcelona reminded the world that it, too, is a major religious city:
It also started on the University of Sankore. It's a little late, but there's still time to build up a religious economy.
The Crusade was strong in the north. Moscow fell easily and was returned to Christian rule. the south, however, was another story:
Siege weapons were picked clean from the African stack, turning them into glorified pillagers. They nevertheless got to the gates of Thebes before being decimated by Egyptian Catapults and War Chariots. The Super Medic Warrior was left alone with a barely-alive Maceman escort.
For the sake of the GG Unit, I was forced to make peace:
China was also finally ready to end the war:
So we're at peace. And what is peace but an opportunity to build up for war? The south is rapidly mobilizing for a proper assault on Egypt.
Oh. Peace is also an opportunity for Paris to build Wonders:
So 805 is where I decided to end things. Here's a look at England and the north:
Eastern Europe:
The balmy south:
Oh, and our first look at the hemisphere as a whole:
Cyrus is definitely a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Frederick game.
Power:
The decimation of that Egypt stack hurt more than I thought.
And diplomacy:
We don't really have a lot of friends that aren't "on the payroll."
Oh, and the Egyptian Army:
I know, it's lacking in siege. But it's on the way.
So, is the world big enough for us and Cyrus? I'd like to smash Egypt first, but a reckoning with Persia needs to happen, preferably soon. Hopefully he can become our ally peacefully. Probably he can't.
Oh, and with foreign resources and Notre Dame giving us happiness, is it maybe time to move on from Monarchy? Perhaps Representation to take better advantage of our Angkor Wat Priests?
In 535, I called Catherine to my palace and gave her the dreaded "Let's discuss something else" line. Look at her face. She knows what's coming:
You all were right. Catherine was at her weakest, and, as a result, her heretical beliefs needed to be "reformed" quickly.
Yaroslavl' fell easily and was renamed St. Petersburg:
This left two St. Petersburgs on the map. This is, of course, unacceptable. Unfortunately for Catherine, the player cannot rename AI cities.
While punishing Russia for its weakness, I began mollycoddling Cyrus. First, I brought him into the fold:
I'm amazed that's all it took. Hopefully that doesn't make him just as easy for the Muslims to bribe back. Of course, he's still hissy with us. Baby steps, people.
Jacques Cartier, explorer of the Canadas, decided to stay home in this world and open Cartier Papier:
Ba-dum-ching! I thought about the Golden Age, but that can wait. Getting to Liberalism is more important right now.
In 580, I set about fixing that annoying duplicate-name problem:
Catherine, beaten down by her neighbors and on the brink of extermination, decided to kiss the ring:
Could I have wiped her out? Certainly, but this vassalizes her early enough that she can recover. Now, once our Conquistadors enter obsolescence, they can enter Russia, turn in their breastplates for fur hats and ride again as Cossacks!
In 595, we met Tokugawa, who's still a bitter old man even when you share the faith:
Poor Tokugawa. We've shown that you can kick ass on this map! Why do you always languish in obscurity?
Also in 595, foul Islamic magic somehow threw a hurricane at Stockholm!
Or maybe that's just God punishing us for misnaming a city.
By 610, it was time to correct the wrong Egypt had done to our Russian brothers in Christ:
The sanctity of this crusade was commemorated by Paris building a (gasp!) appropriate Wonder of the World:
And, just for kicks, a look at Berlin in 670:
As you can see, the double shrine has forced me to effectively turn a fantastic production city into a commerce city. Of course, once some cottages mature and Wall Street's running in there, it'll be an absolute beast.
In 685,
We gave Catherine what was rightfully hers. I honestly didn't feel like fending off all the outside cultural pressure, and the liberation will make her happy. And besides, it's bull that Egypt should be able to take Moscow.
In 730, Barcelona reminded the world that it, too, is a major religious city:
It also started on the University of Sankore. It's a little late, but there's still time to build up a religious economy.
The Crusade was strong in the north. Moscow fell easily and was returned to Christian rule. the south, however, was another story:
Siege weapons were picked clean from the African stack, turning them into glorified pillagers. They nevertheless got to the gates of Thebes before being decimated by Egyptian Catapults and War Chariots. The Super Medic Warrior was left alone with a barely-alive Maceman escort.
For the sake of the GG Unit, I was forced to make peace:
China was also finally ready to end the war:
So we're at peace. And what is peace but an opportunity to build up for war? The south is rapidly mobilizing for a proper assault on Egypt.
Oh. Peace is also an opportunity for Paris to build Wonders:
So 805 is where I decided to end things. Here's a look at England and the north:
Eastern Europe:
The balmy south:
Oh, and our first look at the hemisphere as a whole:
Cyrus is definitely a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Frederick game.
Power:
The decimation of that Egypt stack hurt more than I thought.
And diplomacy:
We don't really have a lot of friends that aren't "on the payroll."
Oh, and the Egyptian Army:
I know, it's lacking in siege. But it's on the way.
So, is the world big enough for us and Cyrus? I'd like to smash Egypt first, but a reckoning with Persia needs to happen, preferably soon. Hopefully he can become our ally peacefully. Probably he can't.
Oh, and with foreign resources and Notre Dame giving us happiness, is it maybe time to move on from Monarchy? Perhaps Representation to take better advantage of our Angkor Wat Priests?
Not holding on Moscow to avoid boarder tensions with Cyrus was a good move.
Together, Mongols, India and Toku have kept China small, so Cyrus is your last real contender.
Egypt first (I hope you havn't pillaged the soon-to-be-yours cottages), but then (as rolo said) prepare the knife.
But no half games like those Egypt adventure, a full scale blow. into his core, the northern junk-cities are irrelevant.
Btw, no worries about Berlin, it is a way better science/gold city than a production one (at least before the industrial age)
Only 2 mined hilles but ~10 riverside grassland for cottages and 3 food ressources for additional specialists.
Together, Mongols, India and Toku have kept China small, so Cyrus is your last real contender.
Egypt first (I hope you havn't pillaged the soon-to-be-yours cottages), but then (as rolo said) prepare the knife.
But no half games like those Egypt adventure, a full scale blow. into his core, the northern junk-cities are irrelevant.
Btw, no worries about Berlin, it is a way better science/gold city than a production one (at least before the industrial age)
Only 2 mined hilles but ~10 riverside grassland for cottages and 3 food ressources for additional specialists.
Gorrable
Chieftain
You're only just building a library in Berlin!? Probably a random event/spies (at least I sincerely hope so)...
Anyway, good round. Looking forward to how Berlin and Paris look at the end of the game.
Anyway, good round. Looking forward to how Berlin and Paris look at the end of the game.
redmosquito
barbarian bear
you may want to bring at least one missionary with you to convert the heathens asap. what happened to the ap btw. the game will be almost over if you can get sankore + spiral minaret+ ap religion.
you may also consider refreshing your ancient map of persia. I m just curious
you may also consider refreshing your ancient map of persia. I m just curious
Ultimocrat
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Nice round. In about 20 turns, you nearly doubled your science output. Keep it up. Too bad about the Egyptian expeditionary force, though.
Greece has 5 cities in Eurasia -- is that a record? Again, what does it take to talk him into war with Egypt? He looks like a useful pet dog vassal.
Persia has a lot of cities, but most of them are utter junk. Yes, it looks like his power is rising fairly strongly, but I think you've been focusing on building more than military buildup.
Greece has 5 cities in Eurasia -- is that a record? Again, what does it take to talk him into war with Egypt? He looks like a useful pet dog vassal.
Persia has a lot of cities, but most of them are utter junk. Yes, it looks like his power is rising fairly strongly, but I think you've been focusing on building more than military buildup.
pump city to run the slider as high as possible farm over those cottages/hamlets/etc and run merchants. WAY more effective.Ultimocrat
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That's what my gut told me but then I thought more before posting. Berlin will grow to size 20 under current configuration and be running 5 merchants. There are slots for only 4 before Wall Street, and 7 after, IIRC, if not in Caste System. The city will have health problems if everything gets farmed -- it's not coastal and lacks both fresh water and forests (go chopping!). With the slider at 30% gold (and likely to stay mid-range with future conquests), also, it's not terrible to be relying on cottages instead of specialists.
Stewie0416
Who Cares?
Has saladin built the Shrine for Islam yet?
