I'd take MC, then go writing -->Math(for HG)-->Aesthetics-->Lit(GLib, duh)-->Mono-->Theocracy(for Hagia Sofia and more GE points, possibly AP.) Is it to late to snag the temple of artemis? I don't play the earth34 very often, what other IND leaders are going to compete for wonders with you? Could you post a screenie of the top 5 cities?
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The only thing to look out for is military. There's still a buffer to build the Oracle and Temple of Artemis... but after that you have a lot of shiny wonders you need to build in close succession (Parthenon, Collossus(?), Hanging Gardens, Great Library, National Epic, Globe Theatre) while being able to defend from a possible attack. Finding a balance is tough.
- Huayna Capac (won't do much, crappy start)
- Augustus Caesar
- Ramesses (good competition)
- Stalin (doesn't build much...)
Think that's it but I could be wrong.
I don't think it's too late for the Temple of Artemis, though its hard to tell with AIs, they can prioritize the silly wonder. If it is still available after the Oracle though, I would strongly advise going after it instead of the no-copper Collossus. It's just way more helpful for the OCC... (only 4 water tiles? no maoi)
Also I think you might want to switch to Representation immediately, even with the oracle race. The +3 beaker boost it will give to your settled GP may be enough to speed up Pottery to align itself with the Oracle and not delay a turn. Or run rep-citizens (+1
3 
) instead of forest tiles if its not enough. (didn't do any math or anything) So you could have a net delay of 0 turns in finishing the oracle.
- Huayna Capac (won't do much, crappy start)
- Augustus Caesar
- Ramesses (good competition)
- Stalin (doesn't build much...)
Think that's it but I could be wrong.
I don't think it's too late for the Temple of Artemis, though its hard to tell with AIs, they can prioritize the silly wonder. If it is still available after the Oracle though, I would strongly advise going after it instead of the no-copper Collossus. It's just way more helpful for the OCC... (only 4 water tiles? no maoi)
Also I think you might want to switch to Representation immediately, even with the oracle race. The +3 beaker boost it will give to your settled GP may be enough to speed up Pottery to align itself with the Oracle and not delay a turn. Or run rep-citizens (+1
3 ) instead of forest tiles if its not enough. (didn't do any math or anything) So you could have a net delay of 0 turns in finishing the oracle.vanatteveldt
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He sent his warrior out, not worker. It'll be good to have met all the civs once trades begin to open up...Originally Posted by vanatteveldt View Post
- I would not have sent the worker out to explore, it;s not like you need to find city sites
Well that's what I meant of course
. My experience is that they will find you soon enough, and even though a warrior is only a couple turns of prod it can make you miss the pyramids by one turn...Loki Strikes
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Is the Temple of Artemis still available? It is one of my favorites for OCC because of the merchant(food) + prophet(awesome) + free priest(more awesome)
kingnorxis
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I also think that pushing for a religion would be worthwhile if they're still up for grabs - shrine income alone could allow you to keep the science slider at 100% for the game + buy any resources you need off AI. Extra cash will also let you recruit a decent army to keep AI off your back.
Sciguy001
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I vote for a One City Challenge Domination Victory 
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Pieman
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Nice work on nabbing those wonders (specially the 'Mids by 1775 BC!) but you might want to start focusing on some defence soon. It can only be a matter of time before another civ starts coveting the fine city of Paris...
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You've never settled great prophets before, have you.
Gold will not be a problem. A shrine would be a waste of a great prophet, no hammers or rep science.
I'm doing a similar OCC as Louis on the 18 civ Earth map and I just grabbed all the wonders that I wanted (except the AP) and I had so much gold I didn't know what to do with it. I think the only problem is the military. I could build every unit in 1 turn but it seems like such a waste because there is so much hammer overflow and there are so many wonders and buildings. Once I had about 15-20 military units (continually upgraded) plus a few ships I started building research in between buildings since my science had pretty much peaked. That was in the industrial era.
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Shadow game with the celts in Ireland, thru 1080AD (no real spoilers):
Neal, as others have said, switch to rep now and wait for pottery to take MC from the Oracle. MC is very good trade bait. Colossus is another wonder
although you won't get much benefit from it other than denial. You've got some hot and heavy wonder action coming up, so make sure to settle every GP except for an academy from the 1st GS. You''ll eventually get more hammers from specialists than you will from tiles. I'd go for writing next, followed by math (HG), aesthetics (take your pick, but parth first), calendar (MoM), lit (GL), music, drama. I'd definitely go for ToA now, before pottery and after Oracle. You should easily be able to trade for mono soon, to enable OR. You'll certainly be able to get med, so think about whether you want to bulb theo with a GP (you can build it in Christianity, keep it for yourself, and build temple, monastery, and academy for more ). I think Boudi will be going bye-bye before too long (along with Will and Liz).
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Neal, as others have said, switch to rep now and wait for pottery to take MC from the Oracle. MC is very good trade bait. Colossus is another wonder
although you won't get much benefit from it other than denial. You've got some hot and heavy wonder action coming up, so make sure to settle every GP except for an academy from the 1st GS. You''ll eventually get more hammers from specialists than you will from tiles. I'd go for writing next, followed by math (HG), aesthetics (take your pick, but parth first), calendar (MoM), lit (GL), music, drama. I'd definitely go for ToA now, before pottery and after Oracle. You should easily be able to trade for mono soon, to enable OR. You'll certainly be able to get med, so think about whether you want to bulb theo with a GP (you can build it in Christianity, keep it for yourself, and build temple, monastery, and academy for more ). I think Boudi will be going bye-bye before too long (along with Will and Liz).
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Another funny thing with shrines in a OCC, is that if you start going conquesting, you'll find yourself razing your profits away!
Also strongly advise not wasting any GPs in bulbing, your tech rate should take off after Literature anyway so you can reach stuff like Philosophy or Theology manually ahead of the AI without the bulb.
Also strongly advise not wasting any GPs in bulbing, your tech rate should take off after Literature anyway so you can reach stuff like Philosophy or Theology manually ahead of the AI without the bulb.
If the game is too easy, step up in difficulty.
Gold can always be traded for technology. If there are no techs to trade for, the game is too easy. And you know what to do then
I actually forgot to check the difficulty level. I should be playing Monarch for a challenge but I have the feeling that I'm on noble or something. Paris is in a very good place though.
Rubbaduck
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I also tried this on the e18 map on noble. My economy consisted of building wonders and settling everything(except a scientist for academy) I got out of them. Ended up with tons of Merchants and right now around 1000AD I have 4 of them, which gives 4 free food . I also got the mids. Then I just went for some things to trade and kept myself at parity. Got into a few wars, though I haven't lost a single unit yet.
Berlin and London are over 50% French already and Rome lacks a few BFC tiles. Also got Isabella's clams and mountains.
. I also got the mids. Then I just went for some things to trade and kept myself at parity. Got into a few wars, though I haven't lost a single unit yet.Berlin and London are over 50% French already and Rome lacks a few BFC tiles. Also got Isabella's clams and mountains.
vanatteveldt
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Ankor Wat does not affect great prophets, only regular ones...
In this round, I went off the rails a little bit, but I don't think I've screwed things up too badly.
I started out by reaping what I'd sown by building the Great Wall:
*sigh* Ah, well. He's still 6 in Representation, so I guess I can't complain too much. And he will result in a nice little Espionage lead early on.
As our Warrior continued to meet and greet off in Asia, we learned that The Oracle was going to be our only Wonder off of Priesthood:
That's not too huge of a problem. We'll need to get some infrastructure (namely, a Granary and Library) up and running soon, and we also need to beef up the old garrison a bit, so this'll give us a bit of a breather from our breakneck Wonderbuilding. You'll also note that I'm opening borders to as many Buddhists as I can, while keeping the Hindus at bay. I still haven't quite gotten a handle on the religion spread mechanics, so I'm not gonna take any chances. One thing's for sure- If Hinduism gets to Paris first, I'm gonna be a pariah.
Thankfully, we did manage to finish The Oracle after popping out a 2-turn Warrior, and we took Metal Casting as our freebie. It paid big dividends:
With a (ugh) Great Spy snooping around Paris, the people starting to grumble about overcrowding, and with our Wonder building on hold, I ducked into a turn of Anarchy in order to adopt Representation. May as well get some us out of those giant stone Toblerone...
In 1225 B.C., our religious micromanagement paid off:
Woot! Welcome to the European Buddhist bloc! Hopefully, that'll be enough to save our bacon in the future.
And, of course, part of our new philosophy is asceticism and giving to those in need:
... Poor Isabella. Mining? Really?
We gave a much more substantial gift to Stalin:
Extravagant, sure. But, honestly, what's Uncle Joe without Iron? And I'd much prefer keeping a smile on his face to having him get pissy with us. Basically, if someone shares the faith, I'm going to bend over backwards to send them home happy.
In 925 B.C., we rolled a much more favorable Great Person:
I immediately sent him off to work at the Forge.
I'll end the round with a pseudo-accidental pseudo-accomplishment:
I wanted Code of Laws to allow for more Scientists than a Library alone will permit. It's also a vital stepping stone to Civil Service which, as everyone knows, is a no-brainer in a One-City Challenge. And, well, the wild-eyed newbie in me marveled at Confucianism being available this late. So I grabbed it. Sue me.
Here's a look at the "empire":
We've finally won those horses off of Boudica, and those Clams will be hooked up real soon now. I figure that the Monasteries are worth building both for culture and for the 10% research boosts.
How is Paris proper? I'm glad you asked:
The Worker is furiously penning in those Pigs as we speak. That should pump up our growth rate and shoot us to the happy cap.
How do we rate techwise?
Not too badly, thanks. Monotheism would be nice to have, but it's not out there on the trade block just yet. I'm debating how I want to manage these Civics changes. I want Caste System, which I can do now, and I want Organized Religion and Bureaucracy, which should be just around the corner. Should I jump to Caste System now? Wait until I have two or even three of them? Wait until I can trigger a Golden Age and do it then? Turns are much more precious in an OCC, so I'm kind of torn.
And what of our Confucian Missionary? Should I send him off somewhere, or just nonchalantly cut him down in the streets of Paris to keep the religion contained? Maybe I can send him off to try to convert the Khmer or something. Give everyone else an excuse to hate their gutsas much as I do.
I'm researching Mathematics with the intention of continuing to Civil Service and grabbing Aesthetics off of trade, but maybe that's a dumb idea. Should Aesthetics come first? I do need me some Wonders...
Any other comments are more than welcome, of course. Here's the save:
I started out by reaping what I'd sown by building the Great Wall:
*sigh* Ah, well. He's still 6
in Representation, so I guess I can't complain too much. And he will result in a nice little Espionage lead early on.As our Warrior continued to meet and greet off in Asia, we learned that The Oracle was going to be our only Wonder off of Priesthood:
That's not too huge of a problem. We'll need to get some infrastructure (namely, a Granary and Library) up and running soon, and we also need to beef up the old garrison a bit, so this'll give us a bit of a breather from our breakneck Wonderbuilding. You'll also note that I'm opening borders to as many Buddhists as I can, while keeping the Hindus at bay. I still haven't quite gotten a handle on the religion spread mechanics, so I'm not gonna take any chances. One thing's for sure- If Hinduism gets to Paris first, I'm gonna be a pariah.
Thankfully, we did manage to finish The Oracle after popping out a 2-turn Warrior, and we took Metal Casting as our freebie. It paid big dividends:
With a (ugh) Great Spy snooping around Paris, the people starting to grumble about overcrowding, and with our Wonder building on hold, I ducked into a turn of Anarchy in order to adopt Representation. May as well get some us out of those giant stone Toblerone...
In 1225 B.C., our religious micromanagement paid off:
Woot! Welcome to the European Buddhist bloc! Hopefully, that'll be enough to save our bacon in the future.
And, of course, part of our new philosophy is asceticism and giving to those in need:
... Poor Isabella. Mining? Really?
We gave a much more substantial gift to Stalin:
Extravagant, sure. But, honestly, what's Uncle Joe without Iron? And I'd much prefer keeping a smile on his face to having him get pissy with us. Basically, if someone shares the faith, I'm going to bend over backwards to send them home happy.
In 925 B.C., we rolled a much more favorable Great Person:
I immediately sent him off to work at the Forge.
I'll end the round with a pseudo-accidental pseudo-accomplishment:
I wanted Code of Laws to allow for more Scientists than a Library alone will permit. It's also a vital stepping stone to Civil Service which, as everyone knows, is a no-brainer in a One-City Challenge. And, well, the wild-eyed newbie in me marveled at Confucianism being available this late. So I grabbed it. Sue me.
Here's a look at the "empire":
We've finally won those horses off of Boudica, and those Clams will be hooked up real soon now. I figure that the Monasteries are worth building both for culture and for the 10% research boosts.
How is Paris proper? I'm glad you asked:
The Worker is furiously penning in those Pigs as we speak. That should pump up our growth rate and shoot us to the happy cap.
How do we rate techwise?
Not too badly, thanks. Monotheism would be nice to have, but it's not out there on the trade block just yet. I'm debating how I want to manage these Civics changes. I want Caste System, which I can do now, and I want Organized Religion and Bureaucracy, which should be just around the corner. Should I jump to Caste System now? Wait until I have two or even three of them? Wait until I can trigger a Golden Age and do it then? Turns are much more precious in an OCC, so I'm kind of torn.
And what of our Confucian Missionary? Should I send him off somewhere, or just nonchalantly cut him down in the streets of Paris to keep the religion contained? Maybe I can send him off to try to convert the Khmer or something. Give everyone else an excuse to hate their gutsas much as I do.
I'm researching Mathematics with the intention of continuing to Civil Service and grabbing Aesthetics off of trade, but maybe that's a dumb idea. Should Aesthetics come first? I do need me some Wonders...
Any other comments are more than welcome, of course. Here's the save:
Matthew5117
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Wait for CS before revolting to Caste System, you could grow your city while your waiting for those scientists. Then, once you get CS, revolt to Bureaucracy, Caste System and Organized Religion. There's no way you can get a GA without a GP, which you'll want to settle in your city.
Send your Confucian Missionary someone far away. You don't want to give the +1 culture to one of your close neighbors. Put the Missionary in a city where it'll spread a lot though.
Aesthetics is a priority, pretty soon you won't have anything to build (at least something advantageous). Then beeline CS for Bureaucracy.
Edit: Haven't you already built the pasture on the pigs? The pop's not skyrocketing...
Send your Confucian Missionary someone far away. You don't want to give the +1 culture to one of your close neighbors. Put the Missionary in a city where it'll spread a lot though.
Aesthetics is a priority, pretty soon you won't have anything to build (at least something advantageous). Then beeline CS for Bureaucracy.
Edit: Haven't you already built the pasture on the pigs? The pop's not skyrocketing...
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