King of the World #11: Darius I

There is a great spot for National Park in Siberia, with grassland forests grain, cow and deer.
 
I gave a look to the save.....

First, a freakish look to the units the AI is fielding ( as you know it, OFC ), especially our favourite Indian:
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Now count the settlers :D ....

Yup....

3 settlers :faint:

Now for the real stuff:

You are very close of hitting red faces in some cities in some turns. There are no :) resources to trade and the only civ that has Calendar to trade is QSH. You should consider to move happy Immortals :D there

The economy is OK, I think.... i would had probably had teched calendar instead of Construction now, but i do understand your concerns with safety.

And talking on safety:
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You might consider it.... Asoka is 1 turn of maths, so it is pretty much war for currency ( pun intended ) :D This would protect you from any marauding stack that QSH could think on sending through India ( and given how India is preparing to settle 2 cities north of your cap, this would pretty much cover your backs completely ).

I don't see much of point of taking hannibal out. His starting land is mediocre and he only has 3 cities ( this probably means he settled the mali starting area... some scouting could prove useful ( especially if han is overrun by barbs in that area :D In my test game he was, so i wouldn't exclude it ). He can prove a useful patsy for diverting Rome greedy eyes from a war with you.

In short, I think you're doing OK ( better than me, that neglected to settle Russia and then had to face a Preatorian invasion. Just in time to my first catapults to make mincemeat of them, but it was a close call ). Now you only need to push your infrastructure up while stiring the hates. In here, Rome is the gorilla to be shot down and i would not recommend to make any other real war, besides attacking them unless the diplo changes ( you know how the AI is stupid regarding changing religions...... If Rome went budhist, this would become pretty interesting :run: )

P.S Rome made the Temple of Kukulkan ( misnamed in Civ IV and called Chichen Itza ). Cool, isn't it ? :/
 
If you were thoroughly dishonourable you could bribe India into war with China then backstab India.
 
I think you're negleting exploring quite a lot. You have open borders with Greece, send a random immortal to check out their land. I really want to see how fast Rome has expanded into Europe
 
I agree with Stewie, some scouting would be good to know the extend of the AI expansion.

Having just paid for peace and good relations through tech charity I would hold off on war for another round. I also imagine that your army is tied up with happinesss duty for the royal guards anyway.
 
Xerxes paced in his throne room. He yearned to send his armies off to war. He longed to lead his troops in battle from aboard his slaveborn throne. But the vacant lands surrounding Persia had to be claimed, lest Rome, Korea and Carthage should claim them first.

Feeling the impending doom coming from the unapproachable East, Xerxes contributed to Indian economic security in exchange for their military aid:

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As Rolo, one of Xerxes' most trusted advisors had said, Asoka had, for all intents and purposes, finished with Mathematics, so all we were really giving up was Currency.

The subtler soldiers of Persia, the innumerable scribes and spies, changed their focus to better understand our present and future targets and threats:

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Losing track of Pericles would be painful, but we plan to keep him sated for as long as possible, and he is sufficiently contained that his Spies could do little even if things came to blows.

In 200 B.C., despite years of interest in the Espionage field due to the Great Wall, the people of Thebes found themselves more captivated by the young Priest working in the Buddhist Temple there. They elevated him to the status of Prophet:

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And tasked him with the construction of a great Shrine to the Buddhist faith. Xerxes consented to this, understanding the value of such a building even if he scoffed at its religious implications. (We really lucked out there. It took so long to get the Priest up and running that we only had a 20 or so percent chance of not getting a Spy!)

Shortly thereafter, Xerxes built a city on the edge of the African rainforests:

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Khartoum could be a reasonable source of commerce, but, with Farms and Watermills on the lowlands and Mines on the Hills, it could also be a powerful source of military manpower. Babylon and Egypt already provided riches, so Persian Workers immediately began clearing Jungle and planting fields.

Bahrain was founded in 80 B.C.:

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It would never be a true powerhouse, but with two exclusive Flood Plains (plus a third that could be borrowed from Babylon), the Clams of the Persian Gulf, and a few Plains (and, I think, a source of Oil), the city would at least be a contributor.

Rome was beginning to stir:

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Caesar was still Pleased with our alliance, but his military shows of force could not have been wholly accidental.

A group of Immortals, sent east to map out India and monitor the war with Qin Shi Huang, found an opportunity they could not pass up:

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Victory was ours!

Needless to say, this necessitated a quick end to hostilities with China:

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Xerxes held no illusions about a lone, wounded unit being able to hold out against fresh troops for long.

In 35 B.C., Persian peasants found tantalizing clues to Roman research in the ruins of one of their old settlements:

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Sadly, attempts to dig deeper proved to be a waste of resources, but any leg up on the secrets of Machinery would be valuable.

By 10 A.D., even Ethiopia flew the banners of Persia:

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Again, Zara Yaqob gets a really crappy capitol location, but it's still worth a city. and the maze of Peaks and lakes makes it practically impenetrable to the navally clueless AI.

The Koreans pulled us into another war with the Buddhist bloc:

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This was, perhaps, unwise given the scant garrisons of our African holdings, but I thought that the diplomatic benefits would make it worth the risk.

Thankfully, it paid off, as we saw little more than a lone band of Carthaginian Archers, and Hannibal was willing to pay us for peace:

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At least some people respect the chains.

Rwanda was founded to give our grumbling citizenry acces to exotic Gems:

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These jungle-choked African cities would take some time to prove fruitful, but they have the chance to be a powerful core in the far future.

Caesar, meanwhile, having claimed France, took on French airs, building Wonder after Wonder:

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He had also constructed the Collosus this round. This made the city of Rome a valuable target, but also a difficult one to take.

In 235, Xerxes unlocked the last secret barring him from Macemen:

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They would likely not be of terribly much use against Rome (Caesar already has Machinery for Crossbows and will likely have Civil Service sooner rather than later as well), but they could be most valuable against Asoka or even Greece. Is it time to strike? According to our Espionage, it looks like Taoism will be founded in an Indian city...

What should our next research target be? I'm tempted to go Engineering, both for Trebuchets and the ability to improve the roads in our sprawling empire. Pikemen could wait, but would also be handy.

Here is a look at Roman Europe:

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And India:

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India is surprisingly underdefended. Maybe we should do a quick buildup and take Asoka down.

Here's a look at our cities:

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The Tech situation:

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We seem to be catching up to Rome. I think that having all of Central Asia and most of Africa to ourselves may trump even resource-rich Europe. Of course, Julius Caesar may realize this himself, which makes building an army that much more important...

Diplomacy:

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China has seen the light and converted to Judaism. Unfortunately, it may be too little, too late, diplomatically. And Wang Kon seems to be carrying on a one-man crusade against the heathen and recently converted.

Finally, the Power Graph:

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Caesar is, worryingly, in a league of his own. How panicked should we be? At Pleased, he should only come in as a War Ally, so, assuming I'm not at war with any of his friends, we should be safe, right?

Anyway, that's where we stand. I'm gonna build up some troops and maybe ruin India's day while building up defensive troops in the west. Unless my loyal advisors suggest otherwise, of course.

The Save:
 
Nah, Julius can declare at pleased, you aren't safe unless you get to friendly. Hopefully he'll have his eyes on someone else though.
 
At Pleased, he should only come in as a War Ally, so, assuming I'm not at war with any of his friends, we should be safe, right?

Quick question - If an AI cannot declare war on me at pleased, can they still be brought into a war against me as a war buddy after a 2nd AI declares war on me? Just didn't understand really what you were saying.
 
Its worth considering your city maintenance before expanding much further. A few courthouses might come in useful.

Most of the world is a Jewish love-fest with the notable exception of Hannibal so he could well become a target. Jules probably still has some room to expand in Scandinavia. Greece with two cities is remarkably weak, Bod with four cities probably ain't much stronger. There's plenty of targets to the west, a question to consider is how likely is it that Jules will gobble them up first.
 
Some notes:

-You and your love for settling unprofitable cities.... this time it is amost criminal. There are roads in the middle of no where east of the Urals ( a sure sign of somewhat developed barb cities ), meaning good grabs possible, and you settle stuff like the Eritrean spot ? :cry: Those barb cities will be taken by someone, you know..... EDIT: I turned the culture layer and there is chinese culture in the Northern Urals, where those barb borders appear in your obviously outdated map.... it looks like my warning came too late :(

-You probably noticed this in game, but someone founded Cristianity. I would surely bet in hannibal since he has theology. I would not be surprised to see him making the AP ( a budhist AP, to add to the offense )

-Some interesting pics, gently provided by BUG ( all of this intel is in the normal game, but BUG allows to show it in 2 screenshots :p )
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The strategic advisor is not very helpful, but just look at the Sit Rep one..... EVERYONE you know except pericles is warring or planning to war ( that is what the red fist means: the dreaded "hands full" status ).

Given the diplomatic enviroment, I would bet in JC dowing hannibal ( religious diferences, high cultural overlap and han is already in a war ), but I would not discard a attack to pericles, you or Boudica ( by this order, unless the map intel is misleading me ). Boudica is more interesting. she doesn't have a worst enemy, but it is cautious with you, Asoka and Wang. Both Wang and Asoka are far weaker than you and are in war, so I would not expect that she is targeting you ( BTW I would not be surprised to know she has a city in mainland Europe. like pigswill said, she has 4 cities and the cultural layer strongly suggests that she has only 3 in the British islands... or she settled Iceland or she has a city in scandinavia ). Asoka is probably gunning for Hannibal, but i wouldn't exclude that in fact he started planning the war vs QSH before he converted.

-Demographics say that you are #4 in power. You know that both JC and QSH are stronger than you, so the other more powerful nation should be the NA :p Besides that and aproval rate/life expectancy , you're #1 in all. That is indeed a good sign, but may only mean that the AI are more eager to war than to develop land until now ;)

-For heavens sake, trade for calendar
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Best bargain in the market for now... You know you have dyes and incense in your empire, right?

-JC has literature... expect the great library in some turns.

-Last but not least, EXPLORE . Especially Hannibal: if he really makes the AP ( I would expect it: he has the same 3 cities than in the last round and his army is pathetic... so he is spending the hammers somewhere else, like in a wonder with no resource boosters :D), grabbing the AP city is fundamental . Same applies to Siberia: you really need to know how Wang and QSH are dividing the area ( maybe even toku is there ). You should probably give a peek to the good spots in East Africa as well, those are probably worth settling if barbs aren't there already ( unlike certain cities in Arabia and in the Horn of Africa that someone settled :p )
 
Rolo speaks words of wisdom, Neal! My jaw literally dropped when I saw some of those crappy african cities that you founded. They will take FOREVER to become useful. The game will be won with :hammers:, and if you had used those settlers in central asia, those cities would be perfectly placed to both limit your main opponents and deliver units to the front when you're at war. Anything you build in friggin' ethiopia will take forever to get to the action! Also, I can't believe you're still building immortals when you have maces available. Their day is long over, and even an archer would provide better defense. You are in a good spot (but could have been sooo much better), but you need to start cranking out nonstop units. The slope of Rome's power curve is steeper than yours, meaning you're just going to fall further behind. I'd like to see all of your non-african cities building maces, instead of just 1. :p You really need to start leveraging your advantage in land. [end of rant]

I would try to build Ashoka up as a buffer with China, rather than thinking of taking him down. He'll be easy pickings whenever you decide to take him out. Just help him keep China at bay. In fact, I'd consider gifting Chengdu to Ashoka so he can develop it for you. :devil:
 
Yes, I've been shadowing this game and Siberia is much better than Africa. There are two or three very juicy cities in the middle of Siberia and you should found them soon to block the rest of the land from China.
 
re: Terrible Cities- Yeah, I know, I know. When I should be building, I'm grumbling that I'd rather be warring, and when I should be trampling my enemies, I'm sending unescorted Settlers to fill in every last nook and cranny. It's a sickness :) That said, I think that, as long as my economy can stand it, getting those cities up and running now for the cost of a Settler and maybe an Immortal escort is worth it, no?

re: Julius- Eep! All right. Time to duck, cover, and start building units like there's no tomorrow. I'll admit, I don't think he's got his sights on me, but I don't want to take that risk and be caught with my chains down, if you know what I mean.

re: Calendar- Oh, sure. And when I trade for Calendar I'll get yelled at for WFYABTA. Nah. You're right, Rolo. That's a fine deal, which I believe I'll take.

re: Asoka- Yeah. I'm kind of baffled at how quickly he and Pericles have gone from juicy target to valuable buffer states. Though Greece has been circumvented by Rome and, well, is kind of useless to us, now. Maybe it's time to give Pericles a lesson in Persian justice. At the very least, the possibility of a Jewish Shrine is too good to pass up.
 
Julius is much more likely to have his sights on Hannibal, Pericles, or Boudica. Sure, he's a backstabber, but why backstab you when you have much, much more power than anyone other than him and China? Hanny/Percy/Boudy are closer targets and weak. I don't see how badly this can turn out for.

And get those Siberian cities. they're really, really valuable. Moreso than effin' Ethiopia. There's a reason that everyone's starving out there.
 
re: Julius- Eep! All right. Time to duck, cover, and start building units like there's no tomorrow. I'll admit, I don't think he's got his sights on me, but I don't want to take that risk and be caught with my chains down, if you know what I mean.

Well, it's not so much about getting DOWed by him as it is being able to :backstab: him when he marches his entire army off to Carthage. A bold thrust to his core cities at the right time will severely weaken him (at worst) and lock up the game (at best). Just have a counter ready in Thebes when that army comes marching back - maces and or/wellies plus cats will do the trick once they enter your territory.
 
Engineering and Trebs for next tech.

I dont think Settling Africa was a mistake IF you have a small horde of workers to develop those cities fast. Well maybe Djibouti was but the gems site and plains river site can both be useful. If you do decide to war with India capturing a bunch of slave workers may be a big prize.

Im a bit surprised Caesar has not let slip the dogs of war yet, I guess he has been distracted by all the empty land to settle and building wonders with half price modifiers.

When to fight Rome is really the question in this game. Every other civ is countered by rivals, geography, or contained by thier own ineptness. I dont really have the answer other than you dont seem ready yet.

IF you continue to settle then settle north as to Deny sites to Rome.
 
There are some valuable resources in Africa as long as you have enough workers to hook them up. Instead of concentrating on who to attack next I'd concentrate on creating the units for the war to come and decide who to attack as opportunities present themselves. I'd still focus espionage on the big two. If Rome attacks Boudica that may be the time to hit Asoka as your western frontier will be secure for some time etc. That's just one possibility but it's an example of my thought process.

Due to the powerhouses on the map I'd go for Engineering as well. I'd build one offensive stack with trebs. etc. and a smaller catapult stack with collaterall damage promos and keep it on the opposite side of your empire from whichever way you decide to war.
 
Though Rome certainly is more dangerous, Carthage, if he controls the Malinese area, might be a good target too. An quick and easy conquer to prepare your newly trained forces for Rome.
 
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