[MOD] Westward Ho

TC01 said:

There's a lot to do for 0.4, so it probably won't be released anytime soon. The first batch of changes for 0.4 will be resources and yields and trade goods, so if you have any opinions on those (like what we can replace a lot of the existing trade goods with, or what new ones should be added, etc.), please share those opinions, either here or in the subforum.

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Please, publish the list of resources you are interesting to add in your mod.

I collected a lot of information about various resources from various mods. Some of them I made by myself.

Plus, of course, you are absolutely free to take any resources from "1492: Global Colonization. Resource Pack" and use them in your mod.

KJ Jansson said:

Please, publish the list of resources you are interesting to add in your mod.

I collected a lot of information about various resources from various mods. Some of them I made by myself.

Plus, of course, you are absolutely free to take any resources from "1492: Global Colonization. Resource Pack" and use them in your mod.

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Well, the main problem is not that I have a list of tradable goods and resources and need to put them in the game. The problem is that I don't have such a list and need such a list before I can go about putting them in the game, which is why I want people's opinions and ideas on what resources and tradable goods to add or replace.

I want to replace the Tobacco->Cigars and Fur->Coats "paths" with other tradable goods more appropriate for the setting. Sugar->Rum was adjusted to be Sugar->Beer, and Cotton->Fine Clothes was turned into Cattle->Leather.

I intend to add Gold, which I'd either take from Plantation Economy or from your mod (but I guess yours came from Plantation Economy, so it makes no difference). And maybe other resources or tradable goods; someone suggested Oranges as a cash crop in the style of Indigo or Coffee in Plantation Economy, for instance.

One suggestion I remember was making it so that Cattle could be converted either to Food or Cattle could be converted to Leather. I'll probably do that.

But I really have no other ideas. I'm reading through the idea thread to see if there were any other suggestions.

v0.4 has been released. This version adds quite a lot of stuff, and therefore there may be bugs. If you find any, please report them.

Here is the changelog:

-Merged in Androrc the Orc's Trail modcomp- it is now required to build roads
-Merged in Kailric's Journeyman Professions modcomp
-Merged in Kailric's Coal Burner modcomp
-Merged in Kailric's Forts modcomp
-Added Route To (Trails Only) and Route To (Trails and Roads Only) commands
-Added a custom main menu background screen and loading screen
-Added a custom home city screen from KJ Jansson
-Added gamefonts, icons, and other graphics for new yields
-Added new Railroad Station building allowing airlifting between cities
-Fixed bug with Railroad art not appearing in certain cases
-Changed Tobacco, Cigars, to Barley, Beer
-Changed Sugar, Beer to Wool, Cloth
-Iron, Silver, and Coal resources can be discovered on plots with a mine
-50 Coal and a Railroad Station is required to create a Locomotive


One thing it does not include is the latest version (released today) of Kailric's Coal Burner modcomp. Sorry- he updated it just as I was getting everything together to release. It'll be in the next patch... if there's not another version by then.

TC01 said:

One thing it does not include is the latest version (released today) of Kailric's Coal Burner modcomp. Sorry- he updated it just as I was getting everything together to release. It'll be in the next patch... if there's not another version by then.

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I have one more small update for the Coal Miner I'll release today sometime. Just fixes some minor text and graphic issues. I wasn't sure we wanted the "steam works" part of it for WestwardHow but then if you have Locomotives you'd have the other Steam powered engines as well so it would be fitting

Kailric said:

I have one more small update for the Coal Miner I'll release today sometime. Just fixes some minor text and graphic issues. I wasn't sure we wanted the "steam works" part of it for WestwardHow but then if you have Locomotives you'd have the other Steam powered engines as well so it would be fitting

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Yes, I would like the Steam Works part of the mod.

I'll wait for your update, and then for your Profession fix you mentioned in the other thread, before releasing a patch for Westward Ho.

I have released patch 0.41. This patch includes the new version of Coal Miner as well as the fix for units- units not being able to load into Wagon Trains and units all having their original names and graphics. Changelog:

-Fixed bug where units could not be loaded into/unloaded from transports
-Fixed bug where units and professions were all the same as vanilla Col
-Fixed bugs with the non-modular code in the Forts module
-Fixed bug with the positioning of units on the Home City screen
-Added highlighted icons for yields (in city screen)
-Added Steamworks update for Coal Furnace- increases manufactured goods production
-New graphics for the Coal Furnace
-Fixed several Coal text errors

It's packaged as an exe, so just run that to install the patch.

Just started trying out your mod today and have notice one bug so far and a couple of resources that were mapped out on a type of land that didn't have the resource available to it. (for example: Sheep on a Plains where as if it was a cow the cow resource would get the gain unless the land was a grassland then the sheep would rule. Though this type of resource mis-relocation is common with civ4 mapping that i've seen.)

The bug that i found is when producing beer and cloth together in the same town. Then you maneuver your overstock of beer and cloth onto the same wagon to be sent to Western Europe to be sold but when you put say the beer on the wagon then the cloth after(or vise versus) they both combine to become beer in the wagon and you no longer see cloth. I'm guess the cart doesn't recognize the cloth because the cloth and the beer share the same keg picture so it appears your just loading up one resource but in fact it should be 2 separate resources.

Other than that i've been enjoying your mod and it's quite refreshing to played a different but yet true to the feel of a colonization had been based upon. Besides I love the watching westerns with my dad and haven't played a western type game in a bit so this mod has been enjoyable in that regard and i will be checking back to see if there are updates to the mod in the future.

cavvy

Just tried out this intriguing mod, and there's much to like! There seems to be a bug with journeyman pioneers, though. One of the first things that I do is use the initial, non-expert pioneer to build a railroad from my first colony to the home city. However, once the pioneer hits journeyman status, he stops building the railroad. Thereafter, he cannot build any communication lines at all, although the build buttons are still there. He simply travels along the intended build route. I have to buy a hardy pioneer to get any kind of a rail line built.

Also, shouldn't the movement allowance for scouts be higher, say, at least 4, considering that's how far wagon trains can move? (Shades of the original Colonization!)

Modfan said:

Just tried out this intriguing mod, and there's much to like! There seems to be a bug with journeyman pioneers, though. One of the first things that I do is use the initial, non-expert pioneer to build a railroad from my first colony to the home city. However, once the pioneer hits journeyman status, he stops building the railroad. Thereafter, he cannot build any communication lines at all, although the build buttons are still there. He simply travels along the intended build route. I have to buy a hardy pioneer to get any kind of a rail line built.

Also, shouldn't the movement allowance for scouts be higher, say, at least 4, considering that's how far wagon trains can move? (Shades of the original Colonization!)

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K, I figured what the problem was on this. I attached a fix just download it then Unzip and add this file to the WestwardHo/Assets/Modules/ProfessionsMod folder. It will replace the current file and fix the problem. It should not mess up your saved game.

I'm getting a weird mix up where I have a colonist harvesting sheep, but it turns out to be sugar and then the weaver is turning my sugar into beer. Did this get addressed already? Sorry, haven't read every post.

The mod is fantastic though, I'm having a lot of fun as the Texans!

Napalm Eddie said:

I'm getting a weird mix up where I have a colonist harvesting sheep, but it turns out to be sugar and then the weaver is turning my sugar into beer. Did this get addressed already? Sorry, haven't read every post.

The mod is fantastic though, I'm having a lot of fun as the Texans!

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It's been reported, but not addressed.

I think there are some icons somewhere that I haven't changed yet- Sheep used to be Sugar. In the code, it's still called that. So I suspect there's some icon I haven't changed.

I will look into it.

Cool, thanks. Otherwise it seems to run very smoothly. I'll report after my game is through.

I've released patch 0.42. This fixes bugs (most, but not all of the bugs reported), and adds a new leaderhead- William B. Ide, by Ekmek.

Changelog:

-Fixed bug with Journeyman Pioneers
-Fixed a crash when building Steamworks
-Fixed some text key errors for native civilizations
-Fixed issues that might have been causing a crash on building map
-Fixed resource-terrain mismatch errors caused by the mapscript
-Fixed bug where Coal Miner could not build Trails, Forts, or Railroads
-The Mine, not the Lodge, now has a chance to reveal mineral resources
-Added missing graphics (Cow and Trail buttons)
-Added William B. Ide leaderhead from Ekmek

The download link for this mod does not work.

ercolesptr said:

The download link for this mod does not work.

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I know. WePlayCiv are having some problems at the moment with large files.

But I just got back a PM from Dale; they're going to try and get it fixed soon.

Just for a Suggestion

Cotton should produce nothing, but be worth double its normal amount

Another Thing, is that i was playing, but i encountered a Bad thing: I cant Get Specialists/Other Colonists out of my home port O_O
Please Fix it so that Wagons can carry Settlers

Kailric has just released a fix for the "AI does nothing" bug. I have packaged it into an 0.421 patch, linked from the first post (or below, in my reply to Alexbond45). You must install this patch over 0.4 and 0.42- it does not include 0.42 and 0.41, sorry.


Alexbond45: that problem was fixed in one of the patches released after 0.4- download this.

Then, you should download this 0.421 patch (see the next paragraph).

I installed both, AI Does little to nothing

also, the easier way to win independence is to strike at their home city

make it so that the home city cant be capture

Alexbond45 said:

I installed both, AI Does little to nothing

also, the easier way to win independence is to strike at their home city

make it so that the home city cant be capture

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I'll reinstall the mod and the patches and see if it works for me. The AI was founding cities just fine in all my tests I done on the fixed files I uploaded.

I was also wondering what would happen if you attack a Home city. Yeah, we may need to make it so that Home Cities can't be attacked.

Well, the problem may be that the 0.421 patch isn't copying the files into the right directory. I had to manual select the right directory but even then it copied the files into the wrong directory. I had to manually move them.

With a fresh install and the two patches the AI is building their first city just fine. However I did notice that the AI doesn't start out on top of Their home city like the player does. I didn't see that in the version I was testing prior to these release. But this issue would actually help in that the AI does not load its units into a wagon for faster movement, they start out on a plot that is able to build a city on. The wagon for some reason starts on on top of the home city though.

Also, I tried attacking my home city and its impossible. You can't attack or declare war on "Europe" civs. I am not sure after declaring Independence if you can win by destroying the Home City though.