I'm not sure of the exact mechanics, though I think I remember an AI liberating a city to me even when I was not putting down culture on the city tile. However at the moment Galley City has more French culture on it than ours, so if he gifts it back before we can put more culture on it then he will probably gift it to De Gaulle.
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Worker Leapfrogging
Here's an example of what I meant by worker leapfrogging. IN this example, the sugar-N tile gets scrubbed for 4t before the workers have to finally move beyond its range.
This was how I had originally worked it out assuming Moscow builds revolt(1t)-wkr(3t)-wkr(2t)-settler(4t)-settler(4t)-movement(3t), so we had to have the city site and pigs scrubbed in 17t. Now, since we're planning to wait 2t before revolting and also maybe build a chariot for 2t, there will be some extra turns available. Whoever plays can work that out, but I assume that means we could also fit in roading thecows pigs and maybe roading the rice too. The key is to have both scrubbed and workers wiating to work on the turn the city is settled. The sooner we connect and work the cows, the better.
It's of course, critical that the worker that is scrubbing gets his action canceled each turn.
Here's an example of what I meant by worker leapfrogging. IN this example, the sugar-N tile gets scrubbed for 4t before the workers have to finally move beyond its range.
This was how I had originally worked it out assuming Moscow builds revolt(1t)-wkr(3t)-wkr(2t)-settler(4t)-settler(4t)-movement(3t), so we had to have the city site and pigs scrubbed in 17t. Now, since we're planning to wait 2t before revolting and also maybe build a chariot for 2t, there will be some extra turns available. Whoever plays can work that out, but I assume that means we could also fit in roading the
It's of course, critical that the worker that is scrubbing gets his action canceled each turn.
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Ok, I didn't realize you were talking about pre-scrubbing stuff like sugar. I was losing some of those turns, but roading and scrubbing rice before the city is settled, with two workers ready to pasture pigs when settled. I'll figure something out...
What cows? Do you mean pigs, or am I missing something?
What cows? Do you mean pigs, or am I missing something?
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Yeah, the thing people sometimes don't realize is that moving both workers onto the fallout doesn't speed roading up, it's just worker turns gone with the wind.
bbp, when are you planning on playing?
bbp, when are you planning on playing?
Tonight at some point. I still wanna play around with the worker actions, but I can follow yours to avoid another feedback loop.
Edit: I mean just play 2-3t as described, I'm not going further than that today.
Edit: I mean just play 2-3t as described, I'm not going further than that today.
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I must have missed this, but is there a reason we can't gift CoL and/or Math already at 1000 BC? You plan has us doing this the next turn (i.e. 975 BC).
He only just got Priesthood and Writing this turn.
I completely missed this. mdy, when and where were the archers?
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It's in his last turnset report, which I found quickly and easily using your page 1 report...
It must have been last turn, because you can see how far he fogbusted.
^ Ok. So the C1 archer is off exploring, I guess.
Excellent, thx. 
It's in his last turnset report, which I found quickly and easily using your page 1 report...
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Turn 76
Churchill +6 Looks like tech, unless it was a bit of land score (no time to figure out now) - overall soldiers up 9k
Confucian auto-spread in Moscow
Turn 77
Roosevelt +6; De Gaulle -6 (Overall pop dropped - DG whipped - not Paris; overall soldiers up 12k)
DG is Gandhi's worst enemy
OB signed
Gandhi won't trade Poly or Masonry (We don't want to start trading this away yet)
We can take everything else with CS - I choose not to take Archery - Done deal
Copper is 2S+1E of Moscow
Our score graph looks nuts. @LC, that's how it's done.
This is a fun turnset.
Churchill +6 Looks like tech, unless it was a bit of land score (no time to figure out now) - overall soldiers up 9k
Confucian auto-spread in Moscow
Turn 77
Roosevelt +6; De Gaulle -6 (Overall pop dropped - DG whipped - not Paris; overall soldiers up 12k)
DG is Gandhi's worst enemy
OB signed
Gandhi won't trade Poly or Masonry (We don't want to start trading this away yet)
We can take everything else with CS - I choose not to take Archery - Done deal
Copper is 2S+1E of Moscow
Spoiler :
Our score graph looks nuts.
@LC, that's how it's done. This is a fun turnset.
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Great job! 
So I assume that our warrior is in place to threaten DeG and we can get a cheap DoP with him this turn.
Also, in your next turnset, don't forget to revolt to Slavery and Bureacracy.
I wonder if Gandhi is working on the GLH or the 'Mids by not trading Masonry. In the test game he was willing to give it up.
So I assume that our warrior is in place to threaten DeG and we can get a cheap DoP with him this turn.
Also, in your next turnset, don't forget to revolt to Slavery and Bureacracy.
I wonder if Gandhi is working on the GLH or the 'Mids by not trading Masonry. In the test game he was willing to give it up.
I forgot to get peace with DG. Did it now with PH. 
Should I upload another save? Not sure how that works...
Edit: x-post.
Should I upload another save? Not sure how that works...Edit: x-post.
Doesn't matter. We'll just take it with Currency later.
None of the other AI's have Writing yet, so we can't get further DoP's with Math or Alpha. That's ok, it'll happen eventually.
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I agree that it doesn't matter from a trade perspective. I was just wondering if we could gain some insights based on the fact that he won't trade it. Typically, an AI won't trade something until enough AI know it (should only be one other AI for Gandhi, right?) or because the tech leads to some kind of race (e.g. wonder, religion, Liberalism, etc.).
He knows 3 AI, but DG doesn't know Masonry. My guess is that's it. Not sure what the status is in the test save.
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bbp, you can just upload the save over the old one. That's what I did. Good going!
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