Xenocrates
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I had an unexpected personal epiphany recently and it seems I owe the Americans on this board an apology. I found a link on the Fortean times website to a story about the Bilderberg group:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=358df7bd-7a54-41e4-9366-df1733597c30&k=96354
I was going to post it on the North America Union thread, as I know some of you are interested in that, but I couldn’t find it again. The Bilderbergs are contenders for the secret Government or Illuminati that some conspiracy theorists refer to. This article suggests that the Canadian/US union is their agenda.
Then I followed a link trail to a guy called Haroon Aswat:
http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Aug05/020805Aswat.html
Basically Aswat was working for British Intelligence while he was setting up an ‘Al Quaeda’ training camp in Bly, Oregon in 1999, yes I know you’re thinking WTH!!, but there’s more. His partner was arrested and prosecuted but the British somehow twisted American arms and had Aswat released. He crops up again in the July the 7th bombings. He received telephone calls from each of the 4 alleged 07/07 suicide bombers shortly before the attacks. The day before the attacks he flew to Pakistan and was arrested but released, again (this has happened several times). Thus proving (as much as possible) that he continued to be a British intelligence asset after the bombings. Before bombings = MI5/SIS agent, after bombings = MI5/SIS agent - during bombings ???? You see where I’m going with this?
London’s nickname is Londonistan as it has been widely condemned as the global nervecentre of Islamic terrorism. Some of the Islamic fundamentalism is being coordinated from London, but is it officially coordinated?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/07/24/MNGN67SF4U1.DTL
Anyway, now on to the 07/07 bombings. This website is very instructive and I really recommend reading it through:
http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-mind-the-gaps-part-1.html
There hasn't been very much discussion about 07/07, but it's every bit as suspicious as 9/11 if not more so. There are many incongruities in the 07/07 narrative and some key comparisons with 9/11 (except obviously the scale of the attack):
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=1777
There are several flaws in the official report that PROVE that it is wrong. I won’t spend space on that, read the Julyseventh website, you'll be amazed at the outlandishness of the official report. I just want to look at the bombs. From the same website:
“Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Co-ordination Unit, was also reported to have said a day later that the explosives used were "military in origin". He also mentioned that they were possibly trafficked from the Balkans, since it would generally be quite difficult to obtain military explosives, unless the men had "someone on the inside" to get them out of the military establishment.
Other sources have pinpointed the explosives as being C4 (which is easy to trace) or perhaps some of the 350 tonnes of RDX that were mysteriously stolen from Al Qaqaa in Iraq after the ‘US lead’ invasion. This is interesting: http://www.alchemysite.com/blog/2004/10/few-pounds-here-few-pounds-there.html
RDX is the explosive that was used in the Madrid bombings. Did it come from Iraq and if so, how? The police still have not said officially which explosives were used in London, which is odd since chemical analysis doesn’t usually take a year. If we assume that Chaboud knows what he’s talking about, and he’s French so of course he does, the Balkan link is significant.
‘Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and terror expert, John Loftus, revealed that the so-called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.’
http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1446
Aswat was a member of this group. It seems plausible that Aswat was used by British intelligence to recruit dumbass patsies for use in terrorist campaigns against the Russians and Serbs. Indeed that is precisely what I charge. Obviously in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Chechnya, but maybe also on 07/07? Many people seem to think so. There is evidence that Haroon Aswat recruited the 4 bombers and that at least one of them was a known danger, but was mysteriously left unwatched so that he could carry out the 7/7 attack. The original meaning of Al Quaeda was ‘the list’ and it referred to the people that would be ‘called up’ to fight (usually against the Russians). It was never an international terror group (and certainly not an anti-US one) until the press and propagandists painted it as one. Then the reality changed to match to the image, which is the danger of this type of disinformation.
There are many reports on the Internet that Aswat is considered to be the mastermind behind the 7/7 operation. Yet the official report states that 4 men and 4 men alone were responsible for the July 7 bombings. There have been no further arrests despite enormous evidence of the involvement of others. Haroon Aswat disappears from the Internet towards the end of last year. I would be in the debt of anyone who can find recent news regarding him. Has he been neutralized by his handlers by death or prison?
Iraq:
‘In earlier reports, we focused on the operation of two undercover British SAS operatives, dressed in traditional Arab clothing, who were planning to set off bombs in the main square in Basra, coinciding with a religious event.
They were arrested by Iraqi police and subsequently "liberated" by British forces in a major military assault, directed against the Iraqi police authorities with tanks and armed cars.’
"A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress as they tried to blow up a booby-trapped car in the middle of a residential area in western Baghdad on Tuesday.
Residents of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district told Quds Press that the people had apprehended the Americans as they left their Caprice car near a residential neighborhood in al-Ghazaliyah on Tuesday afternoon (11 October 2005). Local people found they looked suspicious so they detained the men before they could get away. That was when they discovered that they were Americans and called the Iraqi puppet police."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20051015&articleId=1094
I’ve stated before that I don’t believe that ‘insurgents’ are behind most of the killings in Iraq. What scares the British and Americans the most is a peaceful resistance movement, perhaps modeled on Gandhi’s campaign. What scares the Israelis the most is a peaceful resistance in the occupied territory. The most effective way to resist is with words not bulllets, and any action 'we' can take to anger our weaker enemies into using bullets works in 'our' favour.
These two accounts prove that US and British troops are killing civilians with both bullets and bombs in Iraq – terrorist style. I believe this is what the British SAS man, who refused to serve citing daily illegal acts as a reason, was hinting at.
I am proposing that many governments routinely use terrorism and murder as a means of social control and as a means to facilitate the oil grab in Iraq and maintain control of occupied territory. Not only terrorism against others but terrorism against themselves. Haroon ASSHAT, you Muslim-hater, you should be ashamed of yourself.
My apologies to any American present who might have gained the impression that I believed that you were the playground bullies, whereas it looks increasingly like most of the strings, at least as far as Islamic terrorism is concerned, are being pulled from London.
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=358df7bd-7a54-41e4-9366-df1733597c30&k=96354
I was going to post it on the North America Union thread, as I know some of you are interested in that, but I couldn’t find it again. The Bilderbergs are contenders for the secret Government or Illuminati that some conspiracy theorists refer to. This article suggests that the Canadian/US union is their agenda.
Then I followed a link trail to a guy called Haroon Aswat:
http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Aug05/020805Aswat.html
Basically Aswat was working for British Intelligence while he was setting up an ‘Al Quaeda’ training camp in Bly, Oregon in 1999, yes I know you’re thinking WTH!!, but there’s more. His partner was arrested and prosecuted but the British somehow twisted American arms and had Aswat released. He crops up again in the July the 7th bombings. He received telephone calls from each of the 4 alleged 07/07 suicide bombers shortly before the attacks. The day before the attacks he flew to Pakistan and was arrested but released, again (this has happened several times). Thus proving (as much as possible) that he continued to be a British intelligence asset after the bombings. Before bombings = MI5/SIS agent, after bombings = MI5/SIS agent - during bombings ???? You see where I’m going with this?
London’s nickname is Londonistan as it has been widely condemned as the global nervecentre of Islamic terrorism. Some of the Islamic fundamentalism is being coordinated from London, but is it officially coordinated?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/07/24/MNGN67SF4U1.DTL
Anyway, now on to the 07/07 bombings. This website is very instructive and I really recommend reading it through:
http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-mind-the-gaps-part-1.html
There hasn't been very much discussion about 07/07, but it's every bit as suspicious as 9/11 if not more so. There are many incongruities in the 07/07 narrative and some key comparisons with 9/11 (except obviously the scale of the attack):
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=1777
There are several flaws in the official report that PROVE that it is wrong. I won’t spend space on that, read the Julyseventh website, you'll be amazed at the outlandishness of the official report. I just want to look at the bombs. From the same website:
“Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Co-ordination Unit, was also reported to have said a day later that the explosives used were "military in origin". He also mentioned that they were possibly trafficked from the Balkans, since it would generally be quite difficult to obtain military explosives, unless the men had "someone on the inside" to get them out of the military establishment.
Other sources have pinpointed the explosives as being C4 (which is easy to trace) or perhaps some of the 350 tonnes of RDX that were mysteriously stolen from Al Qaqaa in Iraq after the ‘US lead’ invasion. This is interesting: http://www.alchemysite.com/blog/2004/10/few-pounds-here-few-pounds-there.html
RDX is the explosive that was used in the Madrid bombings. Did it come from Iraq and if so, how? The police still have not said officially which explosives were used in London, which is odd since chemical analysis doesn’t usually take a year. If we assume that Chaboud knows what he’s talking about, and he’s French so of course he does, the Balkan link is significant.
‘Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and terror expert, John Loftus, revealed that the so-called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.’
http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1446
Aswat was a member of this group. It seems plausible that Aswat was used by British intelligence to recruit dumbass patsies for use in terrorist campaigns against the Russians and Serbs. Indeed that is precisely what I charge. Obviously in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Chechnya, but maybe also on 07/07? Many people seem to think so. There is evidence that Haroon Aswat recruited the 4 bombers and that at least one of them was a known danger, but was mysteriously left unwatched so that he could carry out the 7/7 attack. The original meaning of Al Quaeda was ‘the list’ and it referred to the people that would be ‘called up’ to fight (usually against the Russians). It was never an international terror group (and certainly not an anti-US one) until the press and propagandists painted it as one. Then the reality changed to match to the image, which is the danger of this type of disinformation.
There are many reports on the Internet that Aswat is considered to be the mastermind behind the 7/7 operation. Yet the official report states that 4 men and 4 men alone were responsible for the July 7 bombings. There have been no further arrests despite enormous evidence of the involvement of others. Haroon Aswat disappears from the Internet towards the end of last year. I would be in the debt of anyone who can find recent news regarding him. Has he been neutralized by his handlers by death or prison?
Iraq:
‘In earlier reports, we focused on the operation of two undercover British SAS operatives, dressed in traditional Arab clothing, who were planning to set off bombs in the main square in Basra, coinciding with a religious event.
They were arrested by Iraqi police and subsequently "liberated" by British forces in a major military assault, directed against the Iraqi police authorities with tanks and armed cars.’
"A number of Iraqis apprehended two Americans disguised in Arab dress as they tried to blow up a booby-trapped car in the middle of a residential area in western Baghdad on Tuesday.
Residents of western Baghdad's al-Ghazaliyah district told Quds Press that the people had apprehended the Americans as they left their Caprice car near a residential neighborhood in al-Ghazaliyah on Tuesday afternoon (11 October 2005). Local people found they looked suspicious so they detained the men before they could get away. That was when they discovered that they were Americans and called the Iraqi puppet police."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20051015&articleId=1094
I’ve stated before that I don’t believe that ‘insurgents’ are behind most of the killings in Iraq. What scares the British and Americans the most is a peaceful resistance movement, perhaps modeled on Gandhi’s campaign. What scares the Israelis the most is a peaceful resistance in the occupied territory. The most effective way to resist is with words not bulllets, and any action 'we' can take to anger our weaker enemies into using bullets works in 'our' favour.
These two accounts prove that US and British troops are killing civilians with both bullets and bombs in Iraq – terrorist style. I believe this is what the British SAS man, who refused to serve citing daily illegal acts as a reason, was hinting at.
I am proposing that many governments routinely use terrorism and murder as a means of social control and as a means to facilitate the oil grab in Iraq and maintain control of occupied territory. Not only terrorism against others but terrorism against themselves. Haroon ASSHAT, you Muslim-hater, you should be ashamed of yourself.
My apologies to any American present who might have gained the impression that I believed that you were the playground bullies, whereas it looks increasingly like most of the strings, at least as far as Islamic terrorism is concerned, are being pulled from London.
