Did Stalin's leadership do more good or harm for his country during the Eastern Front

Cheezy the Wiz · Mar 24, 2013

Joecoolyo said:
oooo, yes, that one is really pretty.

Not sure how you would classify that one, art deco?

Most certainly not. This is the height of Stalinist Gothic.

red_elk said:
Well, I'm not a specialist here, in Russia this mostly called as "Stalin's empire style".
Yes, there are elements of neoclassicism and art deco.

Another good example:

Spoiler :

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I have a great picture of me in front of that building!

red_elk · Mar 24, 2013

Cheezy the Wiz said:
I have a great picture of me in front of that building!

A nice one, two Lenins

Yeekim · Mar 24, 2013

Lenin was once walking down the street, when he saw a little girl crying.
"What's the matter?" asked the friend of children.
"My mother gave me a kopeck but I lost it", says the the girl.
"Here is a kopeck for you" said Lenin.
The girl started crying even more.
"Now what?!" asked Lenin.
"If I hadn't lost the kopeck my mother gave me, I would have two now!" says the girl.

Such predatory, capitalist mentality was not to Lenin's liking. So he took back his kopeck. And her hat, her scarf, her sweater and her shoes.

Masada · Mar 24, 2013

Yeekim seems to like the Soviet joke aesthetic, he must be a Stalinist too.

Joecoolyo · Mar 24, 2013

Cheezy the Wiz said:
Most certainly not. This is the height of Stalinist Gothic.

Goes to show how little I know about architecture.

I guess I can see the gothic influence, but its the large, geometric straight lines that give it a deco vibe.

Ah, whatever though. Love the pictures though red-elk and Cheezy! I'm totally in favor of this becoming an architecture thread :lol:

Ajidica · Mar 24, 2013

Joecoolyo said:
Ah, whatever though. Love the pictures though red-elk and Cheezy! I'm totally in favor of this becoming an architecture thread

It is like I've always said: some of the best CFC threads are the derailed threads!

Quintillus · Mar 25, 2013

I must say, those Stalin's Empire Style/Stalinist Gothic buldings are quite aesthetically pleasing.

ace99 said:
A feast for your eyes:

The Ministry of Peace....I mean the Buffalo City Court:

The Ministry of Love:

Sexy...look at all those right angles:

A scenic waterfront concrete box collection:

These, by and large, I don't find so aesthetically appealing. Though the third one is rather interesting. It's the sort of building that would catch my attention and make me wonder what sort of business was inside of it.

The Buffalo City Court really does look like it would be a ministry in 1984 or something of that sort. Might look great in a dystopian film, but I'd hardly want to work there or live within eyesight of it. But I wouldn't consider myself a fan of Brutalism in general.

I am curious if the Soviet-style concrete housing buildings would be consider Brutalist. They look aesthetically similar to me, but I'm not sure if this was a cross-Iron-Curtain architectural style or not. And if it's different in the USSR, what do you call the concrete Soviet-ish housing style when it occurs in non-Warsaw-Pact countries? I lived in a Soviet-style apartment like ace99 posted (but with a more a more stable base) when I was in Sweden.

aelf · Mar 25, 2013

Yeekim said:
Such predatory, capitalist mentality was not to Lenin's liking. So he took back his kopeck. And her hat, her scarf, her sweater and her shoes.

Why, that would be merciful. I'd have her whipped too.

ace99 · Mar 25, 2013

what do you call the concrete Soviet-ish housing style when it occurs in non-Warsaw-Pact countries?

Crimes against humanity.

Traitorfish · Mar 25, 2013

They're modern, but they're not Brutalist. Brutalism uses raw concrete for technical and aesthetic reasons, the Soviets used it because it was cheap.

Which is the essence of "Soviet housing", really, modernism done cheaply. You get the same thing anywhere in the world, it's just more pronounced in the former Soviet Union because there was so much of it, and it's been so badly maintained.

Lone Wolf · Mar 25, 2013

There are still some 1920-ies modernist architecture in my home city, pity it's gradually dismantled by the businessmen and bureaucrats to build more malls. All existing malls are already empty anyway, I've never realized why do they need more.

ParkCungHee · Mar 25, 2013

Traitorfish said:
They're modern, but they're not Brutalist. Brutalism uses raw concrete for technical and aesthetic reasons, the Soviets used it because it was cheap.

So, I don't know anything about architecture, but Brutalism sounds like pretty much the coolest architecture thing ever.

Lone Wolf said:
There are still some 1920-ies modernist architecture in my home city, pity it's gradually dismantled by the businessmen and bureaucrats to build more malls. All existing malls are already empty anyway, I've never realized why do they need more.

Because, and this is my inner Long Islander speaking, where else are you going to go?

Cheezy the Wiz · Mar 25, 2013

ParkCungHee said:
So, I don't know anything about architecture, but Brutalism sounds like pretty much the coolest architecture thing ever.

Sure, if this is your sort of thing.

I tried to pick a building you'd recognize, being a New Englander.

I think it looks awful. Kind of cool, in a way, if it were surrounded by more things like it, but awful by itself.

ParkCungHee · Mar 25, 2013

Cheezy the Wiz said:
Sure, if this is your sort of thing.

I tried to pick a building you'd recognize, being a New Englander.

I think it looks awful. Kind of cool, in a way, if it were surrounded by more things like it, but awful by itself.

I was picturing more spikes, and fire. That's not very Brutal.

And trust me, it's no better with more. The local community college is a whole awful sprawling mess of that.

...And do I really come across as a New Englander?

Cheezy the Wiz · Mar 25, 2013

ParkCungHee said:
I was picturing more spikes, and fire. That's not very Brutal.

And trust me, it's no better with more. The local community college is a whole awful sprawling mess of that.

...And do I really come across as a New Englander?

More that I seemed to remember you being from that area. I don't hate you like I hate most New Englanders though.

ParkCungHee · Mar 25, 2013

Well that's good, because I've only been in New England once, and that was to look for Champ.

Traitorfish · Mar 25, 2013

Brutalism is one of those styles that can look very good when you get it right, but is very easy to get it wrong.

Cheezy the Wiz · Mar 25, 2013

ParkCungHee said:
Well that's good, because I've only been in New England once, and that was to look for Champ.

Is New York not in New England?

ace99 · Mar 25, 2013

Dachs · Mar 25, 2013

Cheezy the Wiz said:
Is New York not in New England?

ahahahahahahaha

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