[Beyond the Sword] History In The Making

Grave · Oct 28, 2007

bloodhawk said:
Just downloaded it, and I thought I'd note for everyone's benefit that 0.03 does not break saves from 0.02. So ya'll should download it now.

I forgot to mention that.... but yes, v0.03 is compatable with v0.02 save games.

Der_Meister said:
Hi there. Just donwloaded it, 0.03 patch included, and i find a mod with no words... It doesn't crash, so this is not the same problem Lachñan has. It is just that i don't see a word, not a single letter.

I first thought that maybe, as my civ is in spanish the problem should be that... But WTH i've already played hundreds of mods, all of them in english, and never saw that. Any idea?

I only use <English> tags. If you have BtS set up for say, French, my mod has no <French> tags so all text will come up blank. The only way to fix this is to install Civilization & BtS in ENGLISH. By doing that your game will read from the English tags, and not from non-English tags (Spanish, French, German, etc).

This is why I say my mod is for English only.

This seems to be a reoccuring issue with non-English speaking players, so I added this to the FAQ.

Orion66 · Oct 28, 2007

After new patch 003 there are some graphic bug. I attached picture (pink stripes on the screen)

Grave · Oct 28, 2007

Orion66 said:
After new patch 003 there are some graphic bug. I attached picture (pink stripes on the screen)

Damn, nothings ever perfect! :lol:

That has something to do with the Plot List Enhancement portion of BUG mod. Can you tell me specifically what those ships are doing in your game? Are they sleeping, skipping a turn, etc?

bloodhawk · Oct 28, 2007

Grave said:
Damn, nothings ever perfect!

That has something to do with the Plot List Enhancement portion of BUG mod. Can you tell me specifically what those ships are doing in your game? Are they sleeping, skipping a turn, etc?

It occurs in my game as well, whenever a unit is sleeping or fortified. (EDIT: Actually, it seems to appear whenever a unit is in the middle of executing a command, which would be why its always on for sleeping, fortified, blockading, or sea patroling units, but only flashes during a move order.)

EDIT: On the subject of weird graphics quirks, I just noticed that the Roman roads are using railroad bridges, and the railroads are using road bridges.

Orion66 · Oct 28, 2007

bloodhawk said:
It occurs in my game as well, whenever a unit is sleeping or fortified.

EDIT: On the subject of weird graphics quirks, I just noticed that the Roman roads are using railroad bridges, and the railroads are using road bridges.

EXACTLY!

bloodhawk · Oct 28, 2007

I started a new game in the future era as America, and I noticed a few things:

The unit naming functions in BUG don't work for heavy aircraft or jet aircraft, and probably not for Air Superiority aircraft, either.

The US air superiority fighter has a wierd icon - it looks like its the texture map.

Shouldn't the Submarine upgrade to the attack submarine?

Finally, I'm a little underwhelmed by the Marine Corps UU. I know leadership is a very good promotion, but it doesn't serve much purpose on a unit that tends to die en mass. I think they should get a slight improvement of some sort.

The Multiple Target Acquisition promotion isn't actually available to any jet aircraft, despite being available to the jet aircraft unitclass.

None of the jet aircraft but the strike fighter seem to be able to take the Interception promotions, even though they should be available.

Is there any particular reason only early aircraft can take pinch?

Finally, the model for the American advanced fighter isn't solid - it's missing the intakes. See attachment.

Grave · Oct 28, 2007

bloodhawk said:
I started a new game in the future era as America, and I noticed a few things:

The unit naming functions in BUG don't work for heavy aircraft or jet aircraft, and probably not for Air Superiority aircraft, either.

I'll take a look at this.

bloodhawk said:
The US air superiority fighter has a wierd icon - it looks like its the texture map.

It shouldn't. I have an F-15 icon. I'll look into this, too.

bloodhawk said:
Shouldn't the Submarine upgrade to the attack submarine?

It should... I don't think I changed this, but then again, maybe I accidently removed it.

bloodhawk said:
Finally, I'm a little underwhelmed by the Marine Corps UU. I know leadership is a very good promotion, but it doesn't serve much purpose on a unit that tends to die en mass. I think they should get a slight improvement of some sort.

Any suggestions?

I didn't want the USMC to differentiate too much from vanilla marine units, except for the fact they gain experience much faster.

bloodhawk said:
The Multiple Target Acquisition promotion isn't actually available to any jet aircraft, despite being available to the jet aircraft unitclass.

That's weird. I'll look into it.

bloodhawk said:
None of the jet aircraft but the strike fighter seem to be able to take the Interception promotions, even though they should be available.

Air Superiority fighters are already at 100% intercept rate. The Strike Fighters are set at 50% intercept rate... that's why they get the Interception promotion.

bloodhawk said:
Is there any particular reason only early aircraft can take pinch?

Strike fighers should. I'll look into this.

bloodhawk said:
Finally, the model for the American advanced fighter isn't solid - it's missing the intakes. See attachment.

There's nothing I can do about that, since there is only one F-22 model available out there, so unfortunately I have to use it if I want to have the F-22 in the game.

bmarnz · Oct 29, 2007

Grave said:
Air Superiority fighters are already at 100% intercept rate. The Strike Fighters are set at 50% intercept rate... that's why they get the Interception promotion.

there's a tag in globaldefines to increase max interception probality, if you wanted to.

bloodhawk · Oct 29, 2007

Grave said:
Any suggestions?

I didn't want the USMC to differentiate too much from vanilla marine units, except for the fact they gain experience much faster.

I thought of giving the the tactics promotion, which would give them 30% withdrawal. They'd still have the same combat odds as a normal marine, but they'd be more likely to survive combat and get some benefit from leadership.

Grave said:
There's nothing I can do about that, since there is only one F-22 model available out there, so unfortunately I have to use it if I want to have the F-22 in the game.

Just thought I'd tell you, in case there was another model available.

Zuul · Oct 29, 2007

I guess some of the new promotions comes from me? (add to credits

)

Grave · Oct 29, 2007

bmarnz said:
there's a tag in globaldefines to increase max interception probality, if you wanted to.

I just adjust mine in the UnitInfos.xml file.

bloodhawk said:
I thought of giving the the tactics promotion, which would give them 30% withdrawal. They'd still have the same combat odds as a normal marine, but they'd be more likely to survive combat and get some benefit from leadership.

That's a neat idea... :high5:

bloodhawk said:
Just thought I'd tell you, in case there was another model available.

Thanks... if ever there is another F-22 model, I'll probably pick it up.

Zuul said:
I guess some of the new promotions comes from me? (add to credits )

Done.

Zifnab · Oct 29, 2007

The game crashes when I click on Hitler's mini-portrait on game selection. When trying to select any other leader, the game is fine.

Grave · Oct 29, 2007

Zifnab said:
The game crashes when I click on Hitler's mini-portrait on game selection. When trying to select any other leader, the game is fine.

What are map are you playing that this happens with?

Kalimakhus · Oct 29, 2007

v3.03 comes with some really good stuff. Incorporating the BUG mod sure adds to the fun that HiTM already is.
Thanks to your excellent work I am enjoying Civ4 BTS all over again.

alireza1354 · Oct 29, 2007

Is it possible to play it in the multi player mode? I tried it, but it was terrible. Everything was chaotic, texts didnt fit in the screen, units didnt appear, really really messy, it looked like as if the mod wasnt finished yet. But very good concepts!

So how about MP?

alireza1354 · Oct 29, 2007

No religions possible.. New patch didnt fix that. I am really surprised why all the people havent seen this problem.

Would like to see it fixed soon.... Mod seems very promising!

alireza1354 · Oct 29, 2007

Excuse me for doubling my post

alireza1354 · Oct 29, 2007

darkedone02 said:
The reason why you cannot convert is because you need a civic to be able to like fundamentalism or any other religions that don't have a no state religion blocker.

? I dont see any fundamentalism in the civics.

alireza1354 · Oct 29, 2007

I played a test game.. At start, when someone founded hinduism, I couldnt see it in the religion page. After that, I patched the game.

After a second test game, all religions except Zoroastrianism would appear in the game. The tech for Zoroastrianism was discovered by me, but I didnt get Zoroastrianism. Major dissappointment. Can this be fixed?

Zifnab · Oct 29, 2007

Grave said:
What are map are you playing that this happens with?

Global highlands. If I select anyone else the game starts just fine.

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