Bugs1 - The League of Ordinary Gentlemen

scoutsout said:

Let's see... GK has posted about a half-dozen times since his last "got it". This gives me an idea for a new, most gentlemanly Small Wonder:

"The Old Course at the Royal and Ancient"

Required Tech: Masonry, and the city must contain 18 'mined' grassland tiles.
Cost: 10

Effects: Quadruples the Culture per turn rate of your entire Civ, turns every citizen in the city into a caddy. Also gives the AI 4 turns to your 1, but you get 3 "practice swings" per turn.

What do you guys think?

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Effects: Halves the cuture per turn and increases corruption by 100%

Bede said:

1535
Shift some citizens around between Spokane, Chicago and NY to get Spokane off its starvation diet. It's now stabilized at pop14.

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That sounds a lot like life in Spokane.

Bede said:

Pay a call on Isabella. The formerly fair Isabella now looks like Margaret Thatcher! :

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Good thing there aren't any Falkland Islands in this game.

Bede said:

I just have a really rotten feeling about the Punk Queen (a refugee from Paris in 1968 I think).

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I'll have to take her to Rockaway Beach and introduce her to some good punk rock bands.

Twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty-four hours to go
I wanna be sedated

Bede said:

There are a few automated pollution clean up workers running around. That seems to be the quickest way to find the hot spots to concentrate the rest as needed.

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This part of the game, I don't mind the animated workers.

Yoshi: On holiday
Bede: Just played
Bugsy: Up
Scout: On Deck
Gengis:

Oh, BTW - I got it.

Pre-flight – 1585 AD – Diplo Check – We’re at war with Germany. Wake up some units in Egypt and move them to the German boarder.

we haven’t researched space flight yet? Well that will be next. What are all the solar plants for? We have the Hoover Dam. Pre-builds?

The fair Isabella will give a decent deal for Ecology. Amphib war, WM, 146gpt & 430G. OK my dear.

Sell ecology to X-man for 1567G , 289gpt & WM.

Poor Joan has had a rough time with Chemo. I think we’ll have to build Cure for Cancer before we blast off.

IBT – Build a offshore platform, commercial dock,

1. 1590 AD – Build Lost Wages (Las Vegas). We need more escort ships for our carriers. Change Poughkeepsie and Nome to destroyers and rush both. Sink a German clad escorting a galleon.

IBT – The lovely Isabella smiles sweetly and asks to swap WM. Sure
Build two destroyers, a coliseum.

2. 1595 AD – Sink the other clad, the galleon is next.
For 153G, plant spy in Berlin. Build an embassy in Persia. Get caught planting spies in Persia and Mongolia.

Germany is going to fold like a house of cards.

Position to take Hamburg next turn.

IBT – German cav takes out a tank. Syn Fibers comes in. Space Flight in 4. Switch over a few solar plants to modern armor, the rest to mass transit systems.

3. 1600 AD – The German Navy pays a visit to Davy Jones’ locker.

Hamburg falls with the loss of two tanks. Set up for Berlin.

4. 1605 AD – Start the siege of Berlin.

IBT – Manhattan Project built in NYC.

5. 1610 AD – Capture Berlin at the cost of three tanks.

Capture Frankfort without loss.

The F3 screen says Germany has 4 inf, 1 cav, 4 rifles, and a musket left defending three cities. Press on.

Lose two tanks in taking Leipiz.

Science comes down 10%.

IBT – UN Vote – no thanks, we’re on our way to Alpha Centuri.

6. 1615 AD – Capture Konigsberg at the loss of a tank.

One German city left and I can’t get to it this turn.

IBT - Mongolia tries to snag the last German city, but it’s cav dies a horrible death.
Space Flight comes in. Superconductor next in four. Scroll ahead and waste 54 shields on Apollo in Washington. Then complete Storage Supply, Cockpit, and Stasis Chamber.

7. 1620 AD – Kill the Infantry and the musket defending Pompeii and the Germans are destroyed. The world is at peace.

8. 1625 AD – Rush some libraries in our new German possessions. They all came with research labs, which means they have been building culture since I captured them.

IBT – Complete docking Bay.

9. 1630 AD – Science down 10%.

IBT – Our Golden Age ends. But what a golden age it was!
Income drops by 150 gpt.
Complete Engine.
Nome riots? We have unhappy people!?

10. 1635 AD -

After Action Report: This game is in the bag. Four more techs. 14 turns to launch. Unless of course Mongolia or Persia become less than gentlemanly. Then of course we will have to squish them like a bug.
Next player should play till completion unless that is untenable. It’s been great playing with you gentlemen.

Yoshi: On holiday
Bede:
Bugsy: Just played for the last time.
Scout: UP
Gengis: On Deck

Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Bugs01,_1635_AD.SAV

[Edit] - 2000 posts!

Wow 1800 space win on Monarch ...As a Regent player that's impressive to say the least. I'm kinda sad to see this one finish up it's been a very entertaing read.

Good job to all!!

Got it.

Mistfit said:

Wow 1800 space win on Monarch ...As a Regent player that's impressive to say the least. I'm kinda sad to see this one finish up it's been a very entertaing read.

Good job to all!!

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Thanks Mistfit, but.....

First, this isn't won yet. All it will take is for one of the ladies or the rogues to start a war. Cleo and Isabella are save behind our wall, but if Temujin or X-man decide they don't like Joan's chemo induced hairdo, we'll have to defend her.

Second, I think we're playing this on Emperor, although it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong in the last hour

Lastly, we'll beat 1800 AD easily. Probably more like 1725 AD or less.

Maybe we will want to set up a wall to protect the cancer scarred Joan.

Oh God.

scoutsout<--- goes to the record store downtown... wondering if his friends will ever let him play in another SG with them again He picks up some tunes for the jukebox in the Party Lounge. Some Joplin, Holiday, Muddy Waters...and a particular, more recent one by Patsy Cline. Sure, there are other albums with "that one song" on 'em, but Scout likes the way Patsy did it, and Bugsy might like to listen to it when he thinks of his dear Joanie on the way to Alpha Centauri.

I remember the night and the Tennessee Waltz
Now I know just how much I have lost
Yes, I lost my little darlin' the night they were playing
The beautiful Tennessee Waltz

You forgot kd laing and lyle lovett!!!

Bugs1 - Pre-flight check (1635)

We have an absolutely ridiculous tech lead on everybody...

Still have some solar plant builds going...some due in 1.
Washington will get a Mass Transit System
Ocala gets a stock exchange

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IBT -
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Washington MTR>Tactical Nuke (I can't believe I'm doing this, but MM to get in 7 not 6
New York Army>Army
Khurasan riots a tax is levied on Khurasan
Annapolis MTR>Offshore Platform
Pollution at Brownsville
Ocala Stock Exchange>Modern Armor
Kansas City StockExch>Police Station
Falmouth Market>duct
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Turn 1 (1640)
Let's see if I can get a little help here...
Trade Space Flight to X-man for 1409g
...and to Joanie for 373gpt+270g
Gift Mongols Atomic Theory because the brute is broke and stupid
Sell Rocketry to Izzy for 53gpt+20g
Gift Rocketry to Cleo
Gift Space Flight to Cleo and Izzy.

Some worker moves... when did we end up with Pompeii? (I thought Joanie had sacked it)

Mercifully, the rest of the workers auto-move...
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IBT -
We discover the Superconductor
Set queue to...Nuclear Power, due in 5
Chapel Hill Granary>Stock Exchange
Southend Cathedral>Bank
Des Moines Modern Armor>MA
Hyannis Granary>Bank
Poughkeepsie Destroyer>Nuclear Sub
Detroit MTR>Stock exchange
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Turn 2 (1645)

Let's see ... SS Thrusters are 320 Shields...the Party Lounge is 160

Our pre-builds are a little out of synch here.. this is incredible
Switch Spokane to SS Life Support System (waste 120 shields)
Switch Washington to SS Fuel Cells, (due in 3)
Switch New York to Modern Armor

New York is making 98spt
Atlanta 64...
Spokane 78...

Rush an offshore platform in New Bedford (because I'm bored, and I can)

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IBT - uh oh...
We lost our supply of dyes
We lost our supply of Ivory
The French Declared WAR on us!!!!
The French have burned Mecca to the ground!!!! With a single Cav against an undefended Mecca...that cav ROP Raped us from MEDINA!!!
Berlin Riots... (it's cut off)... Hire a ridiculous number of clowns...
Leipzig riots
New York Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Hamburg Riots
We complete another spaceship part
Spokane SS Life Support System>Modern Armor
Konigsberg Riots
Frankfurt Riots
(I'm hiring a ridiculous number of clowns in these German towns...)
New Bedford Offshore Platform>Factory

The Air Raids were withering...as was the naval bombardment on the southern end of our Egyptian Maginot line.

We lost an absolutely insane number of workers to Joanie's invasion.

I think I saw some French units working their way through Egypt...
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Though I can keep the ladies separated when they fight amongst themselves, all Gentlemanly behaviour aside, this is war. Dangit.

Turn 3 (1650)
Needless to say, every city that was making "Wealth" is now making units...or barracks. And every town that wasn't making Spaceship parts is beating plowshares into swords.

Turn 3 (1650)

Cycle through our cities, changing orders all over the place. Change lux to 10%, and hire a bunch of clowns in rioting ex-German towns.

Rush an Airport in Pompeii.

I wake some modern armor in Southend and recon Egypt. I find the French Expeditionary force. I kill 2 French Tanks, a French Cav in Egypt, promoting a MA to elite in the process. French Elite Infantry redlines one of our MA, but dies. Vet French Infantry redlines one of our MA, but he retreats. Vet French Infantry redlines, but kills a MA. Kill remaining French Infantry in the Egyptian mountains.

...hmmm...

Pause for a little..."Diplomacy"

Trade Embargo v. the French...
w/ Egypt: straight up
w/ Spain: straight up
nobody else buys in.
Trade Temujin Flight for Dyes

I plant a spy in France. Oh man...this does not look good. She's got like...200+ Infantry, 45 tanks...

The situation in Germantowns is not good. There are 10 French Infantry outside Konigsberg; 11 French Infantry and a guerrilla on a mountain 2W of Hamburg, and 8 French tanks in striking distance of the town. 2 French tanks are bearing down on Leipzig.

Wake a stack of Artillery in Berlin, move them to Hamburg, and lob some shells at the French Stack on the mountain.

Wake a Modern Armor in Leipzig, kill a French Tank, promotes to Elite, kills a second French tank. Wait with him. Wake some more modern armor in former german cities... lose a MA, but kill a lot more than I lose. Our Tank Army in Frankfurt goes to Konigsberg and takes out 3 French Infantry.

Wake the aircraft on our carriers, and send all the bombers to Frankfurt and Berlin, risk the F-15s in Leipzig and Hamburg.

Our Tank Army in American Arabia kills a French Infantryman and a Guerrilla, recaptures a worker.

On of our Modern Armor stumbles upon a stack of French Infantry along the Mongolian border...

Wake...pretty much everything in Basra... send the planes to germany... hmmm...

...use a worker to build an airfield north of Leipzig, and put a mech infantry on it.

I sink a French Destroyer off the coast of Amiens.

The extreme northern end of our Egyptian line got hammered pretty hard. I move one of our MAs in there to try to fortify the line. Add a mech infantry and a Guerrilla for good measure.

...and just in case Izzy gets any bright ideas, I do something I haven't done before. I go through all of our cities and draft a citizen. We shall not have another city sacked by RoP in this game.

I'm still workin' on "Turn 3" here... I'm sure there are still some things I can do on this turn to dig us out of this. But first, I'm going back to the very first post, to re-read the rules on what I can and cannot bomb/kill/sack/pillage or maim.

To be continued...

@Bugsy: I need a little guidance here. Since joining "The League", I have had some, er, um, ungentlemanly moments. While that was all well and good when it involved the X-man or Abu-the-Middle-Ages-Memory, I now find myself in something of a quandry.

For example: Joanie's 4 cities to the southeast are connected to her empire by a single rail line. She is launching attacks from these 4 cities along 'the wall' that we put together to protect Cleo from one of Joanie's previous tantrums. We now have, er, um... "some planes" in "Germantowns"... would it be considered "gentlemanly" if I said something like:

"May I purty, purty, purty puh-leeze cut that rail line, like John Singleton Mosby used to do when he raided all those lines headed to Harper's Ferry?"

...and while I'm at it... may I wreck everything and anything as long as I don't mess with her cities?

...or must I confine all action to our territory?

Welcome to the furball Scoutsout

It seems like you 'Gentlemen' have spent over half the game dodging troops of one of the ladies.

I'm trying to get out of one in our game as well. Best of luck scoutsout.

For what it's worth, I consider pillaging terrain a minor tweak, it's razing or capturing cities and making demands on the ladies that's bad

denyd said:

It seems like you 'Gentlemen' have spent over half the game dodging troops of one of the ladies.

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Well...I wouldn't call the way I'm playing this "dodging" exactly...

I think Bugsy must not have treated her right. I have an idea. I think I'm going to give Joanie a great big hug.

Try flowers. I think it was when I told her I hope her chemo is going well. She didn't have cancer!!! That was her hairdo of choice. It is sort of like asking a lady when her baby is due only to find out she isn't pregnant.

Dave Barry said it best: You should never say anything to a woman than even remotely suggests you think she's pregnant unless you see an actual baby emerging from her at that moment.

I think pillaging tiles would be OK. Just don't attack any cities. Try and get peace at any cost as quickly as possible. Give her Pompeii, I heard it may be too near a volcano anyway.

From Turn 3, I think....


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IBT - Absolutely bewidlering... I honestly lost track of all the French Bombers, Tanks, and infantry that attacked us. I think "Bugsy's Wall" was breached in at least 2 places.. but we didn't lose any cities.... and I saw at least 2 Carriers headed towards our northern area...lots and lots of bombing runs, and attacks by tanks. Pompeii is taking an awful pounding, but the troops are holding.


Mexico City Factory>Mech
Des Moines MA>MA
Pensacola Beach Temple>Rax
Damascus Police Station>Submarine
Daytona Beach Temple>Market
Khurasan Settler>Market
Rockaway Beach Destroyer>Submarine
Brownsville F-15>Rax
Ocala Modern Armor>Mech
Pompeii Airport>Rax (and rush it)
Nome Market>Police Station
San Antonio Stock Exchange>Modern Armor
St. Louis Cathedral>Nuclear Sub
Dallas Factory>Rax
Pittsburg Cathedral>Rax
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Turn...4 (1655)

Let's see...where wat I... hit F3...

Joanie now has 37 tanks, 25 MECH infantry, and 179 Infantry. 4 Aircraft Carriers, 20 bombers, and 10 Jets. Let's see what I can do to whittle that down a little bit.

I take one of our Modern Armor in Egypt, and conduct a thorough reconnaisance of Egyptian lands. No French forces found. I am certain there are some in Mongolian lands, but I will deal with them when the time comes. Our "wall" has been breached, but Joanie was unable to get beyond it.

Rush ... well... lots of stuff in Germany. Rush a nuclear submarine in Annapolis. Please, oh please, let the stealth tactics from C3C work in this game. I have GOT to take out that carrier. Rush another nuc sub in Poughkeepsie.

I order most of our planes to conduct air strikes from bases in German-America.
Airlift a couple of Mech Infantry into Pompeii.
Send some Modern Armor to kill off the French tanks that attacked Bugsy's Wall. I kill 4 French Tanks, promoting one in the process, and get MacArthur, who rush-builds a factor in New Bedford.

I pillage every silk tile I can get my hands on. Joanie will be without those by the end of my next turn. I had to ratchet up lux and take research down a notch. Joanie will pay for that.

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IBT - our navy is so inferior to Joanie's it's not even funny. I don't remember mentioning an arfield I built north of Leipzig, but anyway, I built one. The French killed the grunts I had put on it in the last IBT, but I recaptured it and airlifted some mech in there. One of our mechs fended off some tanks, promoted, fended off another tank, and Patton was born in a battle of tracks-on-tracks. How Appropriate.

A french transport drops a tank off outside one of our former Arabian cities... Aircraft carriers to the north.

Berlin Airport>Rax

I cycle through all of our cities to see if I can pre-empt any riots...and I do catch a few.

Chapel Hill F-15>F-15
We completed something on the spaceship
Washington Fuel Cells>Mech
Leipzig Airport>Rax
New York Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Boston Modern Armor>Mech
Spokane Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Konigsberg Rax>SAM Batter
Cd'A F-15>F-15
East Rutherford F-15>F-15
Cleveland Cathedral>Mech
New Bedford Factory>Submarine
Annapolis Nuclear Sub>Nuclear Sub
Poughkeepsie NucSub>Rax
Detroit Rax>Mech
Brownsville Rax>Mech
Pompeii Airport>SAM Battery
St Louis NucSub>NucSub
New Orleans Rax>Modern Armor

Our treasury is running dangerously low. Back off science, again.
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Turn...6 I think... 1660
I finish pillaging everything around Medina.
Oh man - crossing fingers...nope, regular nuc sub sinks flawlessly to French Battleship out of Poughkeepsie.

The usual air strikes...

Phoenix, from the ashes of Mecca, is founded on a pile of rubble.

By they way team - there's one thing that sucks worse than cleaning pollution, and that's not having enough workers to clean pollution.

Wow - it's EASY to get these Modern Armor promoted...

Let's see...Joanie has 164 Infantry, 33 tanks, 36 mech...

Patton builds a Tank Army, which takes out 3 interloping French Infantry in a hurry.

I do a lot of skirmishing...killing French units...

...and decide to implement my little idea... I move some modern armor and mech infantry into Joanie's territory... the beginning of a hug

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IBT - one of our F-15s FINALLY picks off a French Bomber...
a stupid amount of French bombardment...
Joanie loses several tanks attacking our Mech infantry in Pompeii, among other places...
Joanie drops a single tank next to Boston (why is it that towns like Boston and Medina keep creating problems for me??!?!?!)

...and why is it I'm suddenly reminded of the "First Rule of French Military Leadership"?

Mexico City riots...and I scroll through our cities, hiring clowns where needed.

Halle Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Great Falls Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Southend Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Des Moines Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Chicago Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Dodge city Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Anchorage Destroyer>Destroyer
Pittsburg Rax> (you guessed it) Modern Armor
San Diego Modern Armor>Modern Armor
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1665 - Turn 7

Diplo check... hey, this is odd :devil2: X-man suddenly doesn't have a supply of silks. He won't trade me for them, but I tie 'em up in a little bow and give them to him.

The usual sorties launch from Germany. Lyons is size 30. Let's see how long that lasts when all the irrigation and railroads are gone from the floodplains...

Not so much skirmishing this time... other than picking off the exposed french units. I'm pretty much going after anything I can see, but she's not showing me much...


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Washington Riots!!! Dangit!!!

New York Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Spokane Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Cd'A F15>F15
Someplace else built an F15
Rockaway Beach Sub>Sub
Ocala Mech>Mech
Denver Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Wilmington Modern Armor>Modern Armor

What?!?!?! Would I like to hold elections for U.N. Secretary WHAT?!?!? Um...no.
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1670 Turn 8

Shuffle some airplanes around. Joanie won't talk, and the war weariness is killing us.
run a few air strikes, give some planes a rest, use some artillery to pummel french improvements along the border. Move some troops to give Joanie a "Hug"

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Dang the IBT has become a drag in this game...

Chapel Hill F15>F15
Washington Mech>Mech
Boston Mech>Mech
Des Moine Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Atlanta SS Exterior Casing>Palace
Seattle Modern Armor>Destroyer
Hyeannis Bank>Cruise Missile
Basra Commercial Dock>Mech
Kansas City Police Station>Rax

It's 1675, turn 9, and getting late. It took me a few hours just to play a few turns...

More skirmishing... more sorties... lots of boom-boom...

Trade Izzy silks for 22gpt...

Lots of bombing runs... I hate defensive war...

I've got a french city surrounded now...

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IBT - LOTS of French tanks and Mech Infantry impale themselves on the muzzles of our modern armor and mech infantry. The F-15s are doing a lousy job of controlling the skies.

We (finally) learn the secrets of Nuclear Power, and set the queue to the Laser

Halle Modern Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Great Falls Modern Armor>Modern Armor
New York Modern Armor>Army
Spokane Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Cd'A F-15>F-15
Chicago Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Cleveland Mech>Destroyer
Dodge City Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Brownsville Mech>Mech
San Antonio Modern Armor>Modern Armor
Dallas Barracks>Modern Armor
San Diego Modern Armor>Modern Armor
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1680 AD Turn 10

Diplomacy Check - Joanie will talk to us now!!!!

Peace for Peace? I can live with that you impudent...er, um, you lovely little creature.

We're at peace with Joanie now!

And workin' on the party lounge!

....To be continued....

@ Gentlemen:

I managed to get peace with Joanie, and it didn't cost us anything we didn't lose during the war. Basically, whatever we had invested in Mecca, we lost. We took some combat losses, and lost a whole bunch of workers on that opening round.

@ Bugsy: Not that your flowers idea was bad, but I have generally found that women have a hard time smacking you when you give them a nice, big "hug".



At the moment, I'm at the start of turn 10. The research pace was slowed pretty badly by the war. From here I can finish turn 10, and try to clean up this mess as best I can. Since we're at peace now, I should be able to fire a lot of clowns, and position the next better player to kick the research machine back into high gear. We should still be able to win this easily, with only two more spaceship parts to build.

Note to self:

I will not empty Joanie's treasury when the variant does not allow sacking Joanie's cities.
I will not empty Joanie's treasury when the variant does not allow sacking Joanie's cities.
I will not empty Joanie's treasury when the variant does not allow sacking Joanie's cities.
I will not empty Joanie's treasury when the variant does not allow sacking Joanie's cities.

Scout! That was some of the best played turns I have ever seen given the crazy variant!! You did great!!!

Without the variant Joanie would have been toast, but you played it in a very gentlemanly way!

BTW - What's the first rule of French Military Leadership? (this should be good)

Who's up?

Edit - scout still is.

Sir Bugsy said:

BTW - What's the first rule of French Military Leadership?

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The first rule of French Military Leadership:

"France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."

(See Hundred Years' War, Napoleonic wars)

The second rule of French Military Leadership:

"France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

(Also known as "DeGaulle Syndrome". See American Revolution, WWI, WWII, Bugs1.)

Gentlemen, sorry for the double-post...but as I was pondering 'military maxims', I recalled "Three phrases to watch out for in the Army":

When a Lieutenant says: "It's been my experience..."
When a Captain says: "I've been thinking..."
When a Warrant Officer says: "Watch this guys!"

(Note to Navy types - most of the Army's helicopter pilots are warrants...)

As I was pondering this, I thought about "Phrases to watch out for on Civfanatics". I offer these:

Ainwood: "Here is the start..."
Akots: "Challenging variant..."
Scout: "I have an idea...."