Domestic discussion: City placement

Note the river in the mountain range with the gems - that could lead down to some nice land. I wouldn't be completely surprised if we discovered some fertile ground to the south. It looks like there could be space for a city to the north as well. But both of these are chancy options given our map view at the moment. Southeast would appear to be the safest.
 
For the gems I recommend 3S, 1W of the capitol (hill 1N of the N gems). That gives us the ability to use some of the grassland, it is on the coast, and gives good city spacing for another city 3SE, 1S of the capitol.

We need more river information to properly place the city which will use the wheat to the east.
 
Pathetic. Those are deserts to the south, now we won't be able to utilize the hills as much. Not to mention, we're losing 3 food to the coast. Why? We can't build a harbor now.

Funny, half didn't want a coastal city. Half didn't want a city 1SE, which would have given us plenty of land, and a nice settler factory. (See that extra wheat?) Pathetic! Or, should I say, Apathetic! ;)
 
Do remove all doubt about the Southeast location we voted away, I will of respect for the scrapped solution present the consequences of faulty capital city foundation, based on polling with too limited cartographic information.

Therefore , I have opened the following thread.

Capital City Foundation Inquiry Commission
 
I think SE was definitely the best but Alas, what is done is done, I prefer the wheat not being in our radius as this means we can get a second city to help produce settlers/workers with the wheat so our capital can have some production as well as food. I think second city should be NE of the mountain depending upon the land there, to utilise this wheat and fp. A third city should be placed south, imo 3S 1 Sw of Fanatikku or 3S 1W to get Gems and hills. (Like Noldo's 2cities), I vote we take them 3rd and 4th though, depeniding wha the warrior sees on that mtn.

Is our second warrior expploring or defending? I'd explore NE but has a decision been made do we know (I'll go look :) )
 
As I see it, we should settle in those places and in that order:
DG5_BC3450_turn12(f_c-mod).jpg

The second city placement is placed on the desert tile specificaly not to waste a grassland tile.

The other one is located a bit up north from our current line of sight because it looks fertile up there.
 
HOnourable Deputy of Culture, the second city has just 1 bg, 3 grass and 1 hill in its radius with the rest being desert, and hwen its culture expands it is still rather bad terrain, I completely disagree and feel we should take immediate advantage of the wheat as a potential city to produce solely settlers and workers and the hills to give us a city with high production for our military before settling these deserts.
 
I think the second city should go 3 tiles South of the Capital on that hill. And it should build a Temple after the warrior. We could put the 3rd city closer to where everbody thought their "fabled" city should go. to the SE.

This is a great location for what was offered. Especially compared to what we could have had.
 
Espírito said:
Honourable Deputy of Culture, the second city has just 1 bg, 3 grass and 1 hill in its radius with the rest being desert, and hwen its culture expands it is still rather bad terrain, I completely disagree and feel we should take immediate advantage of the wheat as a potential city to produce solely settlers and workers and the hills to give us a city with high production for our military before settling these deserts.
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But any city built solely for the use of the floodplains wheat will result in having only this tile being of worth, making up for an horrible city. Such a city could pump a worker every 4 turns or so, that is true, but that would be the only thing that it could efficiently do. A settler requires 2 population, and 30 shields. Considering that only the flood plains and city tile will produce food, that means that the city will oscillate between 1 and 3 pop, taking eons to reach pop 3 from 2.

But, considering Cyc's idea, i've updated my map to this:
DG5_BC3450_turn12(f_c-mod-b).jpg


You'll notice that I got the numbering out, moved the '2' city spot, and added a city placement that would be able to use the flooded wheat as soon as it is created.

For settling purpose, it would be good to send a warrior up to the North East region.
 
We could just use the floodpain city as a "worker pit", where its primary function is just to pump out workers. We could later abandon it if the need for more space arrives. We should seriously think about getting those gems before anyone else those. They are a great prize.
 
Epi

Good thought

But let us explore first, so we avoid new blunders. I am done with Nostradamus strategies and telepathic government. But I agree on the main plan, go for goods first.
 
Fier - I am assuming that there may be a grassland there and if not it is still located next to hills to provide a little production, and Im glad you put a city placement there and I like your plan atm though would prefer the city placmeent directly south of Fanatikku on the coast, and we get the gems immediately SW, but I agree in general.
 
I agree with Fier here, but we need to explore more before we build, no more guessing.
 
Well, I think that we should settle on the teal spot first, then to the north somewhere. The gems can wait until we get our settler factories cranking out.
 
No need to build a city for the diamonds, rather use a road and a colony built by worker, protected by a local fortress. This can also be a future barbarian training ground as this area can hardly sustain a real city. See the military ministry thread for advice on this.
 
I really feel that we need to jump on those gems. There are a lot of them. They could make us very rich. Assuming we have them. The best way to have them is to build a city there. So I say we do just that. Because of all the surrounding hills, the city would probably have good production, though it might not be very large. We could follow with the teal and then something just over the northern hills, that might be able to get at the wheat flood plain.
 
Maybe we could just settle it with multiple workers and irrigate those hills, that would solve it, but then we really need Monarchy quick.
 
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