INES I: Anno Domini
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The Major
Warlord
snap how did that happen...
sheep can you send me the orders you crushed me with just so i can see?
I'll join as a new nation after the BT
sheep can you send me the orders you crushed me with just so i can see?
I'll join as a new nation after the BT
Awards
Winner – Kal’thzar / Aegypt
Starting with tiny little Cush, and pushed into a war against das very early in the game, Kal’thzar nevertheless managed to pull himself up, reunite Egypt, and outlast Israel. Everything after that was easy for Aegypt, but Kal’s orders during the Mediterranean War were very good, and would likely have stood up against even a good PC. By raising a three eco center power to fourteen centers, Kal’thzar deserves this award.
Finalist – Birdjaguar / Greater India
Birdjaguar’s Mohenjo-Daro was on the brink of collapse at the first turn, but he saved it, and eventually conquered all of India. Though never really challenged by a PC, Birdjaguar’s orders were always very well thought out, and he managed to successfully deal with some very annoying NPCs, as well as find a way to create the beginnings of an Indian Ocean empire.
Third Place – LittleBoots / Byzantium
Starting with a small power occupying hostile Hittite lands, LittleBoots nevertheless managed to quickly conquer all of Greece. From there, LittleBoots fought a successful war with Assyria, and more that doubled his nation’s strength from the beginning of the game. He also quite possibly had the most enjoyable orders to read.
Player Awards
Most Active Player – Birdjaguar
Aside from me, he has the most posts on the thread by a considerable margin, and sent many PMs, as well.
Least Active Player – JosefStalinator
Posts once on the thread to say he’s taking Lusitania after I PM him to ask if he’s still interested, then never posts in the thread again.
Most Inquisitive Player – fantasmo
It would be hard for most of you to imagine the number of PMs of questions he sent me.
Most Underrrated – Wubba360
His military orders were actually quite good, and the Stick War was very hardfought, but in the end, he lost everything.
Most Cunning Player – fantasmo
He just kept pulling the proverbial rabbit out of the proverbial hat.
Best Orders – Perfectionist
Very well organized, very in depth, and quite Symphony-like. If everyone sent orders like his, updates would go twice as fast.
Best Stories – das
Read some of them during the Nilotic War. Nuff’ said.
Best Newbie – j_eps
Perfectionist, while he might have utterly dismantled any and all opposition, didn’t play as in character as j_eps did. His stories were also quite good, and j_eps was always very enthusiastic about the NES.
Nation Awards
Greatest European Power – The Celtic Empire
Byzantium might have more raw strength, but Byzantium is Asia-focused, and the Celtic Empire has a great deal of influence among the Celtic barbarian tribes.
Greatest African Power – Aegypt
Not much competition here, really.
Greatest Asian Power – Greater India
While China might have the potential to surpass this nation in the future, for now, Greater India reins hegemon over the continent.
Largest Nation – Greater India
With its multitude of colonies, as well as ownership of the subcontinent, I think Greater India wins this title.
Smallest Nation - Wessex
I think. The Farow also deserves some sort of award for switching his nation around the most, but I can't think of a name for that.
Largest Army – Byzantium
With 39 000 troops waiting to rip any attackers to shreds.
Largest Navy – Aegypt
57 ships dominate the Mediterranean.
Most Aggressive – Byzantium
LittleBoots has a penchant for declaring war on multiple nations at the same time. He fought Macedon, Epirus, Phoenicia, Greece, Athens, Sparta, Minoa, Assyria, Aegypt, Israel, Hittite Rebels, Achillean Rebels, and the Romans, and came out on top.
Least Aggressive – Axum
Pulled into the Nilotic War by alliance, Axum never fought in a war before or after that.
Most Evil – Israel
Das had a number of evil domestic policies, had a spy network that puts the current Celtic one to shame, genocided countless Egyptians, and in the end, killed his own country.
Most Good – The Chu-Nan Empire of China
It could have tried to conquer the region quite early, but instead, the nation of the Chu forged peaceful domestic links. Even during the height of the Stick War, fantasmo constantly asked Wubba if he wanted peace.
Best Comeback – Byzantium
It was almost destroyed, but managed to not only survive, but make its enemies very sorry they ever attacked it.
Greatest Rise – Aegypt
The Nilotic War was quite epic, and even after that, Aegypt never stopped growing.
Greatest Fall – Assyria
The fall of Israel was quite good, as well, but that was planned by das, wheras Luckymoose, alone and without allies, dragged the Eagle War out long after it had been decided. Not to mention, Assyria’s fall sparked the Urrian War, which was nothing more than a squabble over Assyria’s territories, and gave Assyria some measure of revenge.
Most Unique – The Celtic Empire
Perfectionist turned a barbarian tribe into a quasi-civilized empire.
Stats
Total Number of Update Pages = 122
Total Number of Order Pages = 221
Winner – Kal’thzar / Aegypt
Starting with tiny little Cush, and pushed into a war against das very early in the game, Kal’thzar nevertheless managed to pull himself up, reunite Egypt, and outlast Israel. Everything after that was easy for Aegypt, but Kal’s orders during the Mediterranean War were very good, and would likely have stood up against even a good PC. By raising a three eco center power to fourteen centers, Kal’thzar deserves this award.
Finalist – Birdjaguar / Greater India
Birdjaguar’s Mohenjo-Daro was on the brink of collapse at the first turn, but he saved it, and eventually conquered all of India. Though never really challenged by a PC, Birdjaguar’s orders were always very well thought out, and he managed to successfully deal with some very annoying NPCs, as well as find a way to create the beginnings of an Indian Ocean empire.
Third Place – LittleBoots / Byzantium
Starting with a small power occupying hostile Hittite lands, LittleBoots nevertheless managed to quickly conquer all of Greece. From there, LittleBoots fought a successful war with Assyria, and more that doubled his nation’s strength from the beginning of the game. He also quite possibly had the most enjoyable orders to read.
Player Awards
Most Active Player – Birdjaguar
Aside from me, he has the most posts on the thread by a considerable margin, and sent many PMs, as well.
Least Active Player – JosefStalinator
Posts once on the thread to say he’s taking Lusitania after I PM him to ask if he’s still interested, then never posts in the thread again.
Most Inquisitive Player – fantasmo
It would be hard for most of you to imagine the number of PMs of questions he sent me.
Most Underrrated – Wubba360
His military orders were actually quite good, and the Stick War was very hardfought, but in the end, he lost everything.
Most Cunning Player – fantasmo
He just kept pulling the proverbial rabbit out of the proverbial hat.
Best Orders – Perfectionist
Very well organized, very in depth, and quite Symphony-like. If everyone sent orders like his, updates would go twice as fast.
Best Stories – das
Read some of them during the Nilotic War. Nuff’ said.
Best Newbie – j_eps
Perfectionist, while he might have utterly dismantled any and all opposition, didn’t play as in character as j_eps did. His stories were also quite good, and j_eps was always very enthusiastic about the NES.
Nation Awards
Greatest European Power – The Celtic Empire
Byzantium might have more raw strength, but Byzantium is Asia-focused, and the Celtic Empire has a great deal of influence among the Celtic barbarian tribes.
Greatest African Power – Aegypt
Not much competition here, really.
Greatest Asian Power – Greater India
While China might have the potential to surpass this nation in the future, for now, Greater India reins hegemon over the continent.
Largest Nation – Greater India
With its multitude of colonies, as well as ownership of the subcontinent, I think Greater India wins this title.
Smallest Nation - Wessex
I think. The Farow also deserves some sort of award for switching his nation around the most, but I can't think of a name for that.
Largest Army – Byzantium
With 39 000 troops waiting to rip any attackers to shreds.
Largest Navy – Aegypt
57 ships dominate the Mediterranean.
Most Aggressive – Byzantium
LittleBoots has a penchant for declaring war on multiple nations at the same time. He fought Macedon, Epirus, Phoenicia, Greece, Athens, Sparta, Minoa, Assyria, Aegypt, Israel, Hittite Rebels, Achillean Rebels, and the Romans, and came out on top.
Least Aggressive – Axum
Pulled into the Nilotic War by alliance, Axum never fought in a war before or after that.
Most Evil – Israel
Das had a number of evil domestic policies, had a spy network that puts the current Celtic one to shame, genocided countless Egyptians, and in the end, killed his own country.
Most Good – The Chu-Nan Empire of China
It could have tried to conquer the region quite early, but instead, the nation of the Chu forged peaceful domestic links. Even during the height of the Stick War, fantasmo constantly asked Wubba if he wanted peace.
Best Comeback – Byzantium
It was almost destroyed, but managed to not only survive, but make its enemies very sorry they ever attacked it.
Greatest Rise – Aegypt
The Nilotic War was quite epic, and even after that, Aegypt never stopped growing.
Greatest Fall – Assyria
The fall of Israel was quite good, as well, but that was planned by das, wheras Luckymoose, alone and without allies, dragged the Eagle War out long after it had been decided. Not to mention, Assyria’s fall sparked the Urrian War, which was nothing more than a squabble over Assyria’s territories, and gave Assyria some measure of revenge.
Most Unique – The Celtic Empire
Perfectionist turned a barbarian tribe into a quasi-civilized empire.
Stats
Total Number of Update Pages = 122
Total Number of Order Pages = 221
das
Regeneration In Process
Good, good, I agree with the awards. Thanks for the story one. As for the evil, I just wish I could do more. 
How many years is the BT supposed to be exactly? I really don't think it should be 800 years as I have heard being proposed previously; in that case BT orders would be utterly pointless. 300-400 sounds rather more reasonable - just enough time for the empires of today to fall, and for new ones (including the successor ones, naturally) to arise.
Oh, and btw, why is China "China"? I think it will be rather more original to call it Chunan (compare with Funan).
How many years is the BT supposed to be exactly? I really don't think it should be 800 years as I have heard being proposed previously; in that case BT orders would be utterly pointless. 300-400 sounds rather more reasonable - just enough time for the empires of today to fall, and for new ones (including the successor ones, naturally) to arise.
Oh, and btw, why is China "China"? I think it will be rather more original to call it Chunan (compare with Funan).
Thank you Imago, this has been great fun. I look forward to the BTand phase 2.
The Wealth of Nations
A study of the World's wealth from the years 0-220 Anno Domini
by the Professor of History of the University of Thebes
A study of the World's wealth from the years 0-220 Anno Domini
by the Professor of History of the University of Thebes
The Years 0-20 AD
Total Wealth: 65 Trade Centres
The beginning of an era of change;
Significant Powers;
Rome 6; 9.2%
India 5; 7.7%
Isreal 5; 7.7%
Greece 5; 7.7%
Byazntium 5; 7.7%
Assyria 5; 7.7%
Comparison;
Cush 3 4.6%
20-40AD
Total Wealth: 65 Trade Centres
An outbreak of wars and rebellions would lead to a very large reduction in trade, however, this was partially offset by many new nations coalascing into states, especially in Asia. Current trends was that of consolodation of the Significant powers in the Mediteranian, as they attempted to gain an edge over each other.
Significant Powers
Isreal 6; 9.2%
Rome 5; 7.7%
Byzantium 6; 9.2%
Assryia 5; 7.7%
India 5; 7.7%
Comparison
Cush 4; 6.2%
40-60AD
Total Wealth:70 Trade Centres
It is during this period that the consolodation of many the Significant powers could broadly had said to be over, their was a clear Winner here. Byzantium, conquest of Greece as it had fallen into rebellion and disarray meant that Byzantium had a dominant position in the Mediteranian.
Isreal 6; 8.6%
Rome 6; 8.6%
Byzantium 8; 11,4%
India 5; 7.1%
Assryia 6; 8.6%
Comparison
Aegypt 4; 5.7%
60-80AD
Total Wealth:68 Trade Centres
Due to a run of success, Aegypt managed to become, nominally at least at this point, a Significant power, Whilst Rome and Assyria dropped out as they suffered many internal problems.
Significant Powers
Isreal 5; 7.4%
Aegypt 5; 7.4%
Byzantium 8; 11.76%
India 5; 7.4%
80-100AD
Total Wealth: 70 Trade centres
This period Showed the true might of Byzantium, even as it underwent a cival war, The Loyalist faction was still richer than any other comparative power. Aegypt and Isreal both dropped out as they both caused a large amount of damage to each other, and their lands were beginning to show this.
Significant Powers
Rome 5; 7.1%
Byzantium Loyalists 8; 11.4%
Assyria 6; 8.6%
India 5; 7.1%
100-120AD
Total Wealth: 71 Trade Centres
With Victory over Isreal now Complete, Aegypt became a more recognised Significant power, Rome Reached a peak, and Byzanitum was beginning to shows signs of stress as it was still locked in a war with its neighbours.
Significant Powers
Rome 7; 9.9%
Byzantium 6; 8.5%
Aegypt 5; 7.0%
India 5; 7.0%
120-140AD
Total Wealth: 71 Trade Centres
A long Period of Consolodation for Aegypt over, whilst Byzantium and Rome plodded on. It was India that rose to greater power in this period, as a Campaign to unite all on the India Sub-Continant was launched.
Rome 6; 8.5%
Aegypt 7; 9.9%
Byzantium 6; 8.5%
India 8; 11.3%
140-160AD
Total Wealth: 68 Trade Centres
Aegypt began its war against Rome, with Celtic Assistance, India and Byzantium Consolodated their gains.
Significant powers
Rome 6; 8.8%
Aegypt 8; 11.8%
Byzantium 7; 10.3%
India 8; 11.8%
160-180AD
Total Wealth: 67 Trade centres
Rome became was destroyed, having failed to gather allies to it, and Aegypt and the Celtic Empire made full use of this to humble Rome, which would never quite recover again. India finished its conquest of the Sub-Continant, whilst Byzantium further consolodated gains from its war with Assyria. The Powers remaining could not really be termed merely Significant, but great, having little opposition in any direction. Although the Vassalage of Minoa to Aegypt managed to grate some Byzantines.
Great Powers
Aegypt 11; 16.4%
Byzantium 8; 11.9%
India 10; 14.9%
180-200AD
Total Wealth: 69 Trade Centres
Aegypt began to consolodate its Position, and remove the weaker annoyances from its path. India had by this point advanced technologically, although the improvements to Agricultural and other points would not quite show itself until later, when the ideas were more wide-spread.
Great Powers
Aegypt 12; 17.4%
Byzantium 9; 13.0%
India 10; 14.5%
200-220AD
Total Wealth: 70 Trade Centres
This period saw a great many powers rise up, the Celtic and Persian rose up from taking advantage of the wars between Aegypt and Rome and Byzantium and Assyria, respectavly. Although the Celts are said to have benefited more, having little in the way of opposition nearby. Whilst Persia saw itself hemmed in by the Indians and Byzantium, conserved as a buffer zone.
Great Powers
Aegypt 14; 20%
Byzantium 9; 12.9%
India 12; 17.1%
Significant Powers
Celtic Empire 5; 7.14%
Persia 5; 7.14%
OOC: 20% of ALL THE WORLDS CASH!
That was fun
, someone make an animated map now!It was never going to be 800. It's going to be 480, so that second Interesting Time can start at a nice round number, and so INES will be reasonably father along than ITNES.
And thanks guys, for the compliments.
@Kal'thzar - Great analysis. There's going to be a link to that on the front page.
And that's the reason why, when LittleBoots surrendered, I was very startled.
But you left out technological and educational advancement as an important part of any nation's power and prestige. 17% of world trade resources are only a part of the greatness of India. A nation is more than just trade.
EDIT: Kal or Imago do either of you have each stat update? If you send them to me or post them, I will look further into all this.
EDIT: Kal or Imago do either of you have each stat update? If you send them to me or post them, I will look further into all this.
No, thats why I looked at the maps, there may be some small discrepincies inthe total TC's and yes I realised that tech also has a part in this, I mentioned it at some point for you, but i mitigated it somewhat as it had no effect on TC's
and yes I realised that tech also has a part in this, I mentioned it at some point for you, but i mitigated it somewhat as it had no effect on TC's
Can you zip it and email it to me as a word or note pad doc?
das
Regeneration In Process
A military analysis will be nice as well, while you're at it.
So, when for should BT orders be sent?
So, when for should BT orders be sent?
Very cool, thanks, I am going to try and create a turn by turn index for each nation and then crate a graph to track things over time. I post it when I am finished.
Perfectionist
Angel of Verdun
Thanks for the awards. You are far too kind.
I am going to have to take issue with this. By my count, the Celts killed twice as many Romans as the Aegyptians, and lost far more men. If anything, Aegypt rose up from taking advantage of our war with Rome.
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