Dzzl01 - The Ocean Blue - C3C SG
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ThERat
Deity
ok then, disenfranchised, if you are able to take is first, go ahead. we should now think about what we actually want to achieve. war against Dutch or another nation first?
I think Dutch really need to be slowed a bit. if we go over, bring army for cover along. that's essential, but I guess you all know that.
also, try and steal steam now, let's hope we have coal and then go for railroading our islands. that will gie us additinonal boost.
do not be afraid to trade techs to the little backwards Civ. we can use their money as well
I think Dutch really need to be slowed a bit. if we go over, bring army for cover along. that's essential, but I guess you all know that.
also, try and steal steam now, let's hope we have coal and then go for railroading our islands. that will gie us additinonal boost.
do not be afraid to trade techs to the little backwards Civ. we can use their money as well
ThERat
Deity
I checked the save. with some MM we could get Madrid to 20spt. try and get cities to critical numbers such as 10, 15, 20
we can fire some clowns and get taxman instead and make 15gpt more than we do now. of course we should also fire some obsolete units, we currently pay 52gpt unit support.
and finally, after we steal steam, we could opt to self research as well. we could get medicine at 8turns with a small deficit. or if we get steam try to get electricity, a tech that we could possible broker. at this stage in republic, we should try and self research, we are almost even in techs with AI. of course we need to start a pre build for ToE with follow up on AT and electronics. If that works out, we will be very powerful.
we can fire some clowns and get taxman instead and make 15gpt more than we do now. of course we should also fire some obsolete units, we currently pay 52gpt unit support.
and finally, after we steal steam, we could opt to self research as well. we could get medicine at 8turns with a small deficit. or if we get steam try to get electricity, a tech that we could possible broker. at this stage in republic, we should try and self research, we are almost even in techs with AI. of course we need to start a pre build for ToE with follow up on AT and electronics. If that works out, we will be very powerful.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Got it (avoided broken computer issue by stealing my brothers - silly man went on holiday and didn't leave his house locked...in any serious manner 
)
)hookmonkey
evolved monkey
GoGOGoGoGoGoGogo@@!!!
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Alas for the best laid plans of mice and men...
Unfortunately my attempts to find an alternate computer have failed and so I'll have to give up playing this SG till payday at the end of the month (new computers cost money - who'd have thought it?
)
Sorry guys I'll mostly be lurking from now on...
Unfortunately my attempts to find an alternate computer have failed and so I'll have to give up playing this SG till payday at the end of the month (new computers cost money - who'd have thought it?
)Sorry guys I'll mostly be lurking from now on...
ThERat
Deity
hmm, sorry to hear that, out team is down to 3, shall we get some more players in here? else, it would be a bit too few. we lost the initiator already.
Zavior, play your turns, then I take it, then hook, but we should try and get some other.
ANYONE out there, interested in joining this Spanish emperor game?
hookmonkey
evolved monkey
hehe I havent seen people lurking in here. 
Here it comes.
1325(unfinished turn
)
Safe steal steam power, rush some temples. We cant afford nationalism, atleast not yet. We have 2 coal's connected
Start railing.
1330(my turn1)
Solely unit movement, I think we should hit the portuguese?
1335(turn2)
Rush courthouse in valencia.
IBT: England and Netherlands ally against the mighty Scandinavians,
1340(turn3)
Movement, railing, rush some infra.
IBT: Mil. Academy finishes :}
1345(turn4)
A lot of border expansions, palace expansion.
1350(turn5)
Mostly railing.
1355(turn6)
same as above
IBt: Portugal and arabia ally against Scandinavia, England and Netherlands ally against Portugal. Vikings die.
1360(turn7)
Railing.
1365(turn8)
Railing.
1370(turn9)
Railing.
IBT: Portugal and Netherland sing peace.
1375(turn10)
Railing. Strategic rail network on our main island is almost done. We are soon ready to strike on portugal.
1325(unfinished turn
)Safe steal steam power, rush some temples. We cant afford nationalism, atleast not yet. We have 2 coal's connected
Start railing.
1330(my turn1)
Solely unit movement, I think we should hit the portuguese?
1335(turn2)
Rush courthouse in valencia.
IBT: England and Netherlands ally against the mighty Scandinavians,
1340(turn3)
Movement, railing, rush some infra.
IBT: Mil. Academy finishes :}
1345(turn4)
A lot of border expansions, palace expansion.
1350(turn5)
Mostly railing.
1355(turn6)
same as above
IBt: Portugal and arabia ally against Scandinavia, England and Netherlands ally against Portugal. Vikings die.
1360(turn7)
Railing.
1365(turn8)
Railing.
1370(turn9)
Railing.
IBT: Portugal and Netherland sing peace.
1375(turn10)
Railing. Strategic rail network on our main island is almost done. We are soon ready to strike on portugal.
ThERat
Deity
ok, got it, then after me will be hook and hopefully we will get someone to join
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-turn
we need a pre build in barcelona for the ToE, we can't afford to miss that. switch build, we also need more workers for railing
we can trade lux as well and you will see, how we can save money
trade with ivory + 200g for gems from Arabia
give England invention for their lux
decrease lux to 10% and we make 604gpt, MM and it goes up to 626gpt
btw a hint for advanced tactics, the sequence in corrupt fringe towns should be: harbor, aqueduct, maybe court, temple
first growth, later sth else and once we get civil engineers we can make it more productive, also extra food could be used for sciencist
so, irrigation, not mining
with this we can support steals for a while, go for careful steal with Arabia, succeed and take nationalism
by the way, we could mine the wheat and cow since we grew enough already
1. 1380AD
Dutch know industialization now
declare on Portugese , capture Sagres, Guimares
IT lose a cav on counter
2. 1385AD
capture Emerita
IT lose another cav on counter
3. 1390AD
safe steal Industy from dutch, succeed, sell to carthage for 1485g, 25gpt and furs
take Evora
IT lose one more cav
4. 1395AD
take Oporto
5. 1400AD
finally capture Lisbon
6. 1405AD
take another town
IT Leira flips back taking along 2 cavs, we finish factory in madrid
7. 1410AD
healing
8. 1415AD
take Coimbra and Leira back, get a MGL
9. 1420AD
finally take last portugese town on mainland
make peace with portugese, take democracy along for 700g
trade steam for Free artistry with them and get 700g back as well
IT dutch demand dyes, refuse and they declare, since Carthage and Dutch made peace, get them in as well for iron
10. 1750AD
continue to starve ex portugese cities down to 1 pop
we should ship over our armies to Dutch land and start to hurt them
we are making 900gpt and have 7000g in the bank.
we could later go and revolt to communism, then WW is not an issue
Pre-turn
we need a pre build in barcelona for the ToE, we can't afford to miss that. switch build, we also need more workers for railing
we can trade lux as well and you will see, how we can save money
trade with ivory + 200g for gems from Arabia
give England invention for their lux
decrease lux to 10% and we make 604gpt, MM and it goes up to 626gpt
btw a hint for advanced tactics, the sequence in corrupt fringe towns should be: harbor, aqueduct, maybe court, temple
first growth, later sth else and once we get civil engineers we can make it more productive, also extra food could be used for sciencist
so, irrigation, not mining
with this we can support steals for a while, go for careful steal with Arabia, succeed and take nationalism
by the way, we could mine the wheat and cow since we grew enough already
1. 1380AD
Dutch know industialization now
declare on Portugese , capture Sagres, Guimares
IT lose a cav on counter
2. 1385AD
capture Emerita
IT lose another cav on counter
3. 1390AD
safe steal Industy from dutch, succeed, sell to carthage for 1485g, 25gpt and furs
take Evora
IT lose one more cav
4. 1395AD
take Oporto
5. 1400AD
finally capture Lisbon
6. 1405AD
take another town
IT Leira flips back taking along 2 cavs, we finish factory in madrid
7. 1410AD
healing
8. 1415AD
take Coimbra and Leira back, get a MGL
9. 1420AD
finally take last portugese town on mainland
make peace with portugese, take democracy along for 700g
trade steam for Free artistry with them and get 700g back as well
IT dutch demand dyes, refuse and they declare, since Carthage and Dutch made peace, get them in as well for iron
10. 1750AD
continue to starve ex portugese cities down to 1 pop
we should ship over our armies to Dutch land and start to hurt them
we are making 900gpt and have 7000g in the bank.
we could later go and revolt to communism, then WW is not an issue
ThERat
Deity
@Zavior
don't worry about it, we will stll be on time. railing Barcelona has made it more productive. I also mined cows and wheats. Madrid now has a factory and plant and is really high on shields, which is good.
The war in the south didn't go that well because not enough units. Next time round, we must be better prepared.
But, as I said, next target should be Dutch and since they declared, we are getting war happiness now. We are very healthy, I forgot that, but we can upgrade all those muskets to rifles and then build more units to attack Dutch.
The island east of former Protugal has 2 Dutch cities, we should start there. And send over our 3 armies to the core the wreak havoc. We should eventually send over a settler to establish a beach head.
as for research, i left it switched off, I hope electricity would be coming up shortly, then we should try and research scientific methods ourselves to get ToE. and of course, we take AT and electronics, thus shjould have a Hoover prebuild somewhere
don't worry about it, we will stll be on time. railing Barcelona has made it more productive. I also mined cows and wheats. Madrid now has a factory and plant and is really high on shields, which is good.
The war in the south didn't go that well because not enough units. Next time round, we must be better prepared.
But, as I said, next target should be Dutch and since they declared, we are getting war happiness now. We are very healthy, I forgot that, but we can upgrade all those muskets to rifles and then build more units to attack Dutch.
The island east of former Protugal has 2 Dutch cities, we should start there. And send over our 3 armies to the core the wreak havoc. We should eventually send over a settler to establish a beach head.
as for research, i left it switched off, I hope electricity would be coming up shortly, then we should try and research scientific methods ourselves to get ToE. and of course, we take AT and electronics, thus shjould have a Hoover prebuild somewhere
OMG you discovered Time Travel!ThERat said:
Well if you will have a dipsy blonde I'd like to join in, I'm a confident Monarch player. The last few SG's I've been in have died due to drop outs and I know how that feels.
ThERat
Deity
ok, this is emperor, so do you think you are up to it? the biggest challenge for you will be MM and trading. maybe you can have a look at the save and see what's done. I would be happy to have another player here.
so, once hookmonkey took his turns, you could jump in
Well from looking at the save, I would say in the corrupt areas to concentrate on gold rushing settlers/workers and ICS, irrigate and RR everything, food doesn't corrupt and use the extra pop for scientists and taxmen. Money doen't seem to be a problem, you just need somewhere to spend it. I also notice that you've only just conquered those lands so it's understandable.
Only 25 workers, and I don't know how many slaves but looks like alot. I think you need more workers.
I have no problem with MM. I would be happy to come aboard.
I also notice that you've only just conquered those lands so it's understandable.Only 25 workers, and I don't know how many slaves but looks like alot. I think you need more workers.
I have no problem with MM. I would be happy to come aboard.
ThERat
Deity
@elmarae
good analysis or our situation. we just conquered Portugese land and not long ago, the other part of the Island.
so, welcome to our team, it started with 6 and 3 drop outs
The big foe in this game are the Dutch, so we would want to attack them using our armies to pillage them. We are a little lux poor, but that can't be helped.
The Roster
hookmonkey - up
elmarae - on deck
zavior
TheRat
good analysis or our situation. we just conquered Portugese land and not long ago, the other part of the Island.
so, welcome to our team, it started with 6 and 3 drop outs
The big foe in this game are the Dutch, so we would want to attack them using our armies to pillage them. We are a little lux poor, but that can't be helped.
The Roster
hookmonkey - up
elmarae - on deck
zavior
TheRat
hookmonkey
evolved monkey
ok I got it....
Welcome aboard!
Welcome aboard!
hookmonkey
evolved monkey
Pre-turn:
If we wanna get ToE and Hoover Dam first we better start some research ourselves... right?
Put science at 70%, still making about 120 gpt.
1.
Send our armies to former France for the attack on the dutch.
Rail, rail and rail terrain.
IT: We lose Lisbon with the Mausoleum, it flips back to the portugese..
2.
Rush some temples in former Portugal, to prevent another flip (hopefully).
Galleon's and Frigates (we need more Frigates btw) are sent to salamanca.
4.
Bombard a privateer (dutch I think) road, rail, irrigate...
Start some work on a few Frigates for defending our Galleons.
6.
Mecca completed Universal Suffrage (Madrid was building this too). Complete Electricity. Steal medicine from Carthage. Steal from arab fails.
We win a naval battle. 1 of the 3 Spanish frigates escorting an army vs a elite dutch Frigate.
Madrid switches to Pentagon (1turn), no loss of shields.
8.
Dutch send a few frigates to North Spain. Move more troops to ex-France for future invasion.
Complete Pentagon in Madrid. We can now have 4 units in an army.
10. 1475
First dutch ironclad spotted. Group of dutch ships bombarded with canons. When the Galleon steps up as defender we attack with a frigate. Galleon (with most likely 4 units) sinks.
some information for the next player(s). Technologies to steal and our map. Before anyone invades dont forget to fill our armies up with 1 extra unit (Pentagon).
If we wanna get ToE and Hoover Dam first we better start some research ourselves... right?
Put science at 70%, still making about 120 gpt.
1.
Send our armies to former France for the attack on the dutch.
Rail, rail and rail terrain.
IT: We lose Lisbon with the Mausoleum, it flips back to the portugese..
2.
Rush some temples in former Portugal, to prevent another flip (hopefully).
Galleon's and Frigates (we need more Frigates btw) are sent to salamanca.
4.
Bombard a privateer (dutch I think) road, rail, irrigate...
Start some work on a few Frigates for defending our Galleons.
6.
Mecca completed Universal Suffrage (Madrid was building this too). Complete Electricity. Steal medicine from Carthage. Steal from arab fails.
We win a naval battle. 1 of the 3 Spanish frigates escorting an army vs a elite dutch Frigate.
Madrid switches to Pentagon (1turn), no loss of shields.
8.
Dutch send a few frigates to North Spain. Move more troops to ex-France for future invasion.
Complete Pentagon in Madrid. We can now have 4 units in an army.
10. 1475
First dutch ironclad spotted. Group of dutch ships bombarded with canons. When the Galleon steps up as defender we attack with a frigate. Galleon (with most likely 4 units) sinks.
some information for the next player(s). Technologies to steal and our map. Before anyone invades dont forget to fill our armies up with 1 extra unit (Pentagon).
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