Department of Stranger Affairs
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killercane
Deity
They need to pony up something for open borders, we dont need their steenking missionaries or whoever they are going to send down here. I dont see how we benefit from OBs. It will be very nice to meet someone else.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
I honestly believe that since they are suggesting this... that is enough of a reason to not do the deal. The players on the leader's team are very crafty and know how to lull you into acquiescence (don't really know what that means but it sounds really kool).
As long as it is thought through very well by at least two people and there isn't any major objections, I would go along with OB... but otherwise I'd tell them to stuff it very diplomatically (I have confidence in Whomp's BS factory)
As long as it is thought through very well by at least two people and there isn't any major objections, I would go along with OB... but otherwise I'd tell them to stuff it very diplomatically (I have confidence in Whomp's BS factory)
Sweetacshon
In the foetal position
Of course we could research construction to come in at 515AD 
That aside, How long is the Toaism tech route going to take? I'm sure we'll all be happy enough to sign OB around this time, and hopefully we'll find someone else soon.
That aside, How long is the Toaism tech route going to take? I'm sure we'll all be happy enough to sign OB around this time, and hopefully we'll find someone else soon.
I wonder if they're waiting for a response to our open borders. Maybe we should tell them we don't see a financial benefit to opening borders so we'll decline. The team we meet coming soon would be a better option to opening borders.
Wow. This just in.
I don't know what to say. It seems to me they are looking for a friend.
It would be nice to be able to trade some techs bought at a discount and sold for near fair value.
What do you guys make of this?
I don't know what to say. It seems to me they are looking for a friend.
It would be nice to be able to trade some techs bought at a discount and sold for near fair value.
What do you guys make of this?
Holy Smokes, Batman!Wow. This just in.
I don't know what to say. It seems to me they are looking for a friend.
It would be nice to be able to trade some techs bought at a discount and sold for near fair value.
What do you guys make of this?
Does anybody else get the feeling that they seem kind of desperate? I'm not sure what to make of the offer, to be honest.
Anyways, below is a list of the techs that they are currently up on us. That we know of, anyway. I've also included the beaker cost.
- Polytheism - 143
- Mathematics - 357
- Code of Laws - 500
- Civil Service - 1144
- Monarchy - 429
It is an interesting deal, to say the least. It would be nice to pick up Code of Laws before the save makes it back to us.
Kickbooti
Ecclesia Militans
Wow, I wonder who. Sounds like someone put the fear of Sirian in them.
I don't know but we're #1 in soldiers and feel we're ill equipped so I'm wondering if it's a ruse on the fear factor.
I think that was just an excuse to decline our no researching Construction proposal. Construction will give them access to War Elephants. Once they have the elephants, they can then go on the offensive.
But if we are the target, why offer us 50% off of any techs? My guess is they believe that we are so backwards that it will be a long time before we become a threat. Who knows ... Honestly though, I look at this deal and have a hard time figuring out what is in it for them ...
Which, of course, makes me even more suspicious of their true intentions ...
My guess is that whoever we end up meeting isn't going to give us this sweet of a deal. I say let's get what we can. Any thoughts on this deal?
- Peace through 500AD.
- Open borders with a "trade-only" clause; meaning that no units may enter either civ's borders.
- Technology of Code of Laws, Mathematics, and Monarchy (1286 beakers) @ 50% off is 643 beakers. As we have nothing to offer in return, the 643 beakers will be an available credit for a future trade deal.
- Archery (85 beakers) given for free, as a show of good will.
Kickbooti
Ecclesia Militans
The deal you proposed looks good to me Conroe. I would only ask that boats be allowed to navigate.
Wow, it looks like the Leader may be our good faith partner after all.
I think this is our best card to play, but I would really like to dump a scout near the Leader's land. It would be nice to know if they have access to iron and can take advantage of the crossbows.
If they can, set the peace deal in stone, we won't be able to touch them for awhile. Frankly, if they can't we should probably take the peace deal - we need to build.
With this sweet a tech deal, should we pull back on research and build internally? I specifically ask because the maintinence would be steep for the ivory cities, but if we can let the leader do our research for us while we snag some good resources and stratigically importnat cities...well, that 'aint all bad.
Wow, it looks like the Leader may be our good faith partner after all.
I think this is our best card to play, but I would really like to dump a scout near the Leader's land. It would be nice to know if they have access to iron and can take advantage of the crossbows.
If they can, set the peace deal in stone, we won't be able to touch them for awhile. Frankly, if they can't we should probably take the peace deal - we need to build.
With this sweet a tech deal, should we pull back on research and build internally? I specifically ask because the maintinence would be steep for the ivory cities, but if we can let the leader do our research for us while we snag some good resources and stratigically importnat cities...well, that 'aint all bad.
Is that really a good idea? With the Great Lighthouse, we are going to be founding more than a few coastal cities. Giving them access to our coastline is pretty much an invitation to map out much of our empire.
Kickbooti
Ecclesia Militans
That is a really good point...
I think you're right, it may be better for us to keep their ships off our shores.
But please, can we send someone up the isthmus to see if they have settled the ivory? If they haven't I still believe it is worth the stretch, for lux and stratigic reasons. If we can keep their navy divided that is all to our good.
