I would like to ask what people are doing after this point. It seems to me the options are somewhat limited.
Overseas expansion is mostly out. Two reasons ... corruption and the land is FULL. You can't even set foot on another continent without war. I really do appreciate tougher AIs, but the total lack of unclaimed land hurts the game if you ask me. There is no exploration and colonization ... only meeting large empires and already claimed land.
Overland expansion is mostly out. First defense is so strong, even with bombardment making large gains is difficult. But that is all well and good. The problem is again corruption. My border cities are already one-shield one-trade corruption wonders ... why would I want to add more? They are all liabilities at this point.
Culture? How fun is that? Culture boils down to: build science and happiness buildings. As thrilling as that is, there aren't even any decisions to make. No strategy, no fun.
Space ship? This may work for some. I never built space ships in Civ 1 or 2 myself though. It is about as thrilling as culture above. Build space ship parts as fast as you can ... just not fun to me. Lack of decisions to make again. Maybe since you are only allowed like 5 good cities this is more challenging ... maybe they want us all to play 5 City Challenge, instead of OCC.
UN domination? I have no experience with this. So far it looks like the only thing to play for maybe.
I think the main problems are borders, all land being claimed so quickly, and corruption. Borders and quick expanding AIs seemed like great things, but maybe they in fact hurt gameplay because they make colonization impossible. Corruption I have no idea WHAT THEY WERE THINKING. Did they even playtest past 5 cities just once???? Did they playtest seriously at all?
I am really worried that when the neatness of the new features runs out, Civ 3 is going to have little replay value. There is no exploration ... just being locked in by borders and corruption.
(sorry for such a long post, thanks for reading)
Overseas expansion is mostly out. Two reasons ... corruption and the land is FULL. You can't even set foot on another continent without war. I really do appreciate tougher AIs, but the total lack of unclaimed land hurts the game if you ask me. There is no exploration and colonization ... only meeting large empires and already claimed land.
Overland expansion is mostly out. First defense is so strong, even with bombardment making large gains is difficult. But that is all well and good. The problem is again corruption. My border cities are already one-shield one-trade corruption wonders ... why would I want to add more? They are all liabilities at this point.
Culture? How fun is that? Culture boils down to: build science and happiness buildings. As thrilling as that is, there aren't even any decisions to make. No strategy, no fun.
Space ship? This may work for some. I never built space ships in Civ 1 or 2 myself though. It is about as thrilling as culture above. Build space ship parts as fast as you can ... just not fun to me. Lack of decisions to make again. Maybe since you are only allowed like 5 good cities this is more challenging ... maybe they want us all to play 5 City Challenge, instead of OCC.
UN domination? I have no experience with this. So far it looks like the only thing to play for maybe.
I think the main problems are borders, all land being claimed so quickly, and corruption. Borders and quick expanding AIs seemed like great things, but maybe they in fact hurt gameplay because they make colonization impossible. Corruption I have no idea WHAT THEY WERE THINKING. Did they even playtest past 5 cities just once???? Did they playtest seriously at all?
I am really worried that when the neatness of the new features runs out, Civ 3 is going to have little replay value. There is no exploration ... just being locked in by borders and corruption.
(sorry for such a long post, thanks for reading)
